[VS] Itachi vs Tobirama

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Can go either way no less than high diff.

Only reason I put Itachi over Tobirama is because Itachi has more firepower and a better arsenal.

Honestly it depends on Tobirama's strategy, is he patient enough to wait out Susanoo?
 

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I'm not saying the unit is outside the range. I'm saying Itachi is the one who stays outside that range, but whatever i'm already tired to explain this, so let's just agree to disagree


The fact that Ao and Shikaku consider Itachi, when a sensory unit should be able to tell if the ninjas on the battlefield were under a genjutsu or not . Means Itachi and or his genjutsu cannot be detected through sensory means.

Unless your argument is that sensors can't detect when someone is under genjutsu


As for the OP , with knowledge Tobirama most likely rapes Itachi. Without knowledge it's anyone's fight
 

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Itachi wins low/mid difficulty. Amaterasu and Tsukiyomi win it for him.
 

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The fact that Ao and Shikaku consider Itachi, when a sensory unit should be able to tell if the ninjas on the battlefield were under a genjutsu or not . Means Itachi and or his genjutsu cannot be detected through sensory means.

Unless your argument is that sensors can't detect when someone is under genjutsu


As for the OP , with knowledge Tobirama most likely rapes Itachi. Without knowledge it's anyone's fight

Rapes? I think that is going a little too far.
 

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The fact that Ao and Shikaku consider Itachi, when a sensory unit should be able to tell if the ninjas on the battlefield were under a genjutsu or not . Means Itachi and or his genjutsu cannot be detected through sensory means.

Unless your argument is that sensors can't detect when someone is under genjutsu


As for the OP , with knowledge Tobirama most likely rapes Itachi. Without knowledge it's anyone's fight
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Is it just me or you really said that Tobirama rapes Itachi of all people?
 

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This is what they call super underrating a character.

Did not you just did the same thing exactly?
Itachi wins low dif coz Tobirama can't fight while avoiding eye contact.Gai is the only one that can fight while avoiding eye contact.At first I though Tobirama can fight like that but a certain Tobirama fan enlightened me in a Itachi related thread and proved that even Tobirama can't fight like Gai.


any ways, Tobirama wins high difficult. Itachi is weaker than all first 4 Hokages.
 

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Did not you just did the same thing exactly?



any ways, Tobirama wins high difficult. Itachi is weaker than all first 4 Hokages.

What I said is true man,according to a fellow NB member( one of most loyal Tobirama fans) only Gai can fight without looking at the eyes of his enemy and I do belive in what he said.You should do the same.
 

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Tobirama is above Itachi on my top 15.
Tobirama can take it, but genjutsu will be troublesome...
 

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What I said is true man,according to a fellow NB member( one of most loyal Tobirama fans) only Gai can fight without looking at the eyes of his enemy and I do belive in what he said.You should do the same.

Did not Kabuto fight both itachi and Sasuke with his eyes close because of his sensing ability?
Guess what? Tobirama is a sensor.
 

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Did not Kabuto fight both itachi and Sasuke with his eyes close because of his sensing ability?
Guess what? Tobirama is a sensor.

Fighting while avoiding eye contact and fighting while closing your eyes are two different things.There is no way in hell for Tobirama to pull a win against Itachi with his eyes closed.
 

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I just said he is a sensor, he does not need to see if he can sense!
and even gave you an example which is Kabuto, he even defeated itachi twice with his eyes closed!
 

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The fact that Ao and Shikaku consider Itachi, when a sensory unit should be able to tell if the ninjas on the battlefield were under a genjutsu or not . Means Itachi and or his genjutsu cannot be detected through sensory means.

Unless your argument is that sensors can't detect when someone is under genjutsu


As for the OP , with knowledge Tobirama most likely rapes Itachi. Without knowledge it's anyone's fight
No it's not the genjutsu which is undetectable by sensory means. It's the genjutsu user who is undetectable if he stays outside the range in which a sensor can sense. You can sense disturbance in one's chakra flow(to know when a genjutsu is used), but you can't know who causes the disturbance
 
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I just said he is a sensor, he does not need to see if he can sense!
and even gave you an example which is Kabuto, he even defeated itachi twice with his eyes closed!

Tobirama is not Kabuto and Tobirama don't have SM.As I said b4 Tobirama cannot pull a win against Itachi with his eyes closed no matter how badly you look at it.Tobirama's only option is to fight him while avoiding eye contact which is not going to happen as Gai is the only one be able to pull such a feat.
 

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Tobirama, is a Senju who has fought Uchiha for all of his life. For one, If you think he's making eye contact with an Uchiha, Esp when he's a sensor and has the means to simple not do it is idiotic. The kages who were completely new to this fighting style managed to pull it off for the duration of the fight, A being the only one that slipped up and got Caught. It's a sad argument to say people like Hashirama and Tobirama will make eye contact. There's inductive reasoning and there's unproven common sense.

Tobirama has Shadow clones that he utilizes in the way he fights. Even though this fight is no knowledge. He knows about Susanno through Madara. And understands the chakra and toll is costs to have up . From the time Itachi even tries bringing out this ability he'll just dance around him with ftg untill he wears out.

Itachi's best option here is to get him with Amaterasu which would be detected with sensor skills, and even then Itachi couldn't differentiate which shadow clone was the real one in the first place.
This leaves Itachi's biggest option being his two non eye contact genjutsu. Which could potentially leave a small opening to act.

As I said, at that point, it's anyones match.
But with knowledge tobirama would definitely win the majority of there battle. I didn't mean stomp rape. Just Itachi won't be touching him rape
 
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Tobirama can beat itachi but its not sure but also itachi can beat tobirama but it is luck that can choose the winner
 

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Tobirama, is a Senju who has fought Uchiha for all of his life. For one, If you think he's making eye contact with an Uchiha, Esp when he's a sensor and has the means to simple not do it is idiotic. The kages who were completely new to this fighting style managed to pull it off for the duration of the fight, A being the only one that slipped up and got Caught. It's a sad argument to say people like Hashirama and Tobirama will make eye contact. There's inductive reasoning and there's unproven common sense.

Tobirama has Shadow clones that he utilizes in the way he fights. Even though this fight is no knowledge. He knows about Susanno through Madara. And understands the chakra and toll is costs to have up . From the time Itachi even tries bringing out this ability he'll just dance around him with ftg untill he wears out.

Itachi's best option here is to get him with Amaterasu which would be detected with sensor skills, and even then Itachi couldn't differentiate which shadow clone was the real one in the first place.
This leaves Itachi's biggest option being his two non eye contact genjutsu. Which could potentially leave a small opening to act.

As I said, at that point, it's anyones match.
But with knowledge tobirama would definitely win the majority of there battle. I didn't mean stomp rape. Just Itachi won't be touching him rape
In what exactly is Minato different then for you?
 
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