Itachi vs Pain
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wow lol at all the votes for itachi... are you people mad? itachi can not counter chibaku tensei, itachi cannot go head to head with the 8 tails naruto, ..... be real itachi fanboys sigh, as much as i love itachi he is no god
Lol theres no need to counter Chibaku Tensei. All he has to do is Seal him, while Pain is using it. Chibaku Tensei isn't instantaneous. Itachi will have plenty of time to Peirce him with Totsuku Blade.
If Chibaku Tensei was activated instantly and all the rocks came up in one second, then id' admit Pain would kill Itachi with it. But since the preparation for Chibaku Tensei, takes too long, (even Itachi bee Naruto, had a consversation during Nagato's chibaku Tensei), Itachi can easily just seal Pain, before he's crushed.
huh?? did you see the manga? after 168 pages of debate you still bring this shit?lol. seriously dude.. I don't know whats wrong with itachi fanboys.. they keep twisting the story.
anyway I'll explain coz I'm a little bored now.. when nagato throws CT on itachi,naruto and bee, itachi can't do anything but to talk and they resorted to destroying CT first..
so that alone suggest itachi can't come near to nagato once he cast it, coz if itachi can do it why does he not seal nagato first before they got sucked in?
SO, NO! itachi can't seal nagato once nagato throws CT. and itachi does not have any technique that is strong enough to destroy CT.
game over pain wins.
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MinatoFLASH
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He can't immobilize if the other paths are in front and Itachi has the edge, not what Kishi says. Rinnegan>MS
Ya I honestly think Kishi purposely made Nagato lose to all 3 and not just Itachi just to show that Nagato was nearly invincible but because of teamwork and intelligence he loses.
Not the longest thread but vs thread. And u wanna make a vs thread this long. Good luck buddy! xd
Although its possible becuz of the fanboys.
Yea Itachi can't take him. But look its like this
Page 1- Nagato fanboy: "Are you really comparing Itachi to Nagato"!!
Itachi fanboy: "Dude Itachi has soo much more intelligence and skills"
Page 70- Nagato fanboy: "Are you really comparing Itachi to Nagato"!!
Itachi fanboy: "Dude Itachi has soo much more intelligence and skills"
Page 170- Nagato fanboy: "Are you really comparing Itachi to Nagato"!!
Itachi fanboy: "Dude Itachi has soo much more intelligence and skills"
And if this thread didn't have an end date-
Page 270- You know what they gonna say
The fanboys just are too stupid to think!
definitely
He cannot just seal him if the other paths, animals, etc come in the way. Also Susanoo is not instant either, it may be as a defense but it takes a while before it develops into a warrior like thing with the sword. Thats the reason Itachi didn't just seal him in the first place and destroyed chibaku first meanwhile the susanoo fully developed. If he cud of jus sealed him instantly then what was the point of destroying chibaku???
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Mark Uzumaki
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who even said he has to wait until pain throws ct and pain is slower at it then nagato which is a key fact u seem to forget he can seal him while the tech is even being initiated. you act as if the tech is instant when it is most certainly not and there are ways like genjutsu or the sword of totsuka that can stop him even prior to him using CT. yea blaming him for twisting the story when u make it as if Ct is a jutsu that pain can just use in two seconds and don't acknowledge the fact that techs like tsukiyomi, other genjutsu and sword of totsuka is faster plus add the fact that pain's Ct is slower than nagato's so they are not the same in terms of speed and effectiveness.
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there is genjutsu that is non-eyecontact too plus tsukiyomi and dude can u give proof other than just saying rinnegan> MS. we kno that is tru but that does not mean he is not affected by anything by ur logic sword of totsuka should not have worked on him either.
And sussano is fast in comparison to CT did u not see it against sasuke.
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does not take long at all its pretty fast
and the reason why he could not just seal him in the first place is becos bee and naruto were on thee verge of death he can't spare a sec and had to go help them.
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look they were about to die obviously itachi does not have the time to get his sword and seal nagato if he did bee and naruto would be history.
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I have been giving proof and Rinnegan>MS is the only thing needed, look I am not saying MS wouldn't work but its justus against Rinnegan= Rinnegan wins.
No he cud of sealed Pain after he helped Naruto and Bee, if he cud of then there was no point of destroying CT! They even showed that Susanoo doesn't get the sword fast, it transforms and changes its appearance before it can seal, this is shown if u look at the susanoo carefully, or u can look it up on Narutopedia. So anyways, even after Bee and Naruto were safe he had to destroy CT with the help of those 2. Look-
Itachi's susanoo before transforming-
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Itachi must destroy CT even when those 2 were saved or he wud be history!
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Itachi wud be helpless 1v1 against Pain. Anyways even though I gave proof I know u won't admit anything.
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look i showed u in my links that sussano does form fast and i even told u that bee and naruto were about to die obviously he is not gonna try and seal nagato that is secondary where as their lives are more important. itachi is not helpless i told u he can use genjutsu which can work no proof against it, and genjutsu in fight can be put on deva b4 ghe can do CT. look at him vs sasuke he does not take time at all to use sussano but in this case he had to save bee and naruto first so obviously he has to be in form 1 and can't go to form two since they did not have any time and were about to die. i told u in a 1v1 itachi has options of genjutsu or also sword of totsuka both of which are faster than CT which pain's is slower version and yet u don't admit it.
jutsus against rinnegan and it wins then why did nagato get sealed if rinnegan is greater than MS it should not have worked so stop going on such pretenses when u have no proof at all. rinnegan>Ms is not an auto win and higher kgs does not always equal win but yet you simply say that as reason for why pain can beat all of genjutsus(aka tsukiyomi) techs some of which u need uchiha blood to break something pain does not have.
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FloriGlori
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khaydz5, you're calling somebody a fanboy with those 'arguments'? That's ridiculous. ;D
Itachi definitely could do something about Chibaku Tensei. The first way would be to destroy it with Amaterasu before it attracts too many stones. Amaterasu even burned fire itself, so it wouldn't take long to destroy the core. And since Chibaku Tensei attracts everything, it'd also attract Amaterasu. The second one would be to burn Pain with Amaterasu while he's preparing or using it, as kadowade already said it doesn't work instantly.
What will Pain do about Susanoo or Amaterasu? None of his bodys except of Gakido & Tendo could do anything about the black flames. If Gakido tries to absorb them from another body, it means that two bodys are distracted, what gives Itachi a good chance to attack. If he's clever (what he definitely is) he'll just aim for their eyes; no eyes means no power, and we already saw that Pain can be easily blinded. Susanoo means death for those who get too close to Itachi anyway (so Bansho Tennin would be suicide for Tendo). It's activated in an instant, that way Itachi was able to block Kirin. Shinra Tensei wouldn't even pressurize it that much, since it possesses Yata no Kagami & even Katsuju was able to protect the villagers from the huge version. With Yasaka no Magatama he even got a strong long range attack. Don't tell me about Itachis bad stamina now; in his battle with Sasuke he used Amaterasu four times (one time for a really long time), extinguished it once (which is quite damaging as we later saw at Sasuke), used Tsukuyomi (which got broken, that took quite a toll, too), kept Susanoo activate for about ten minutes & last but not least transfered his Amaterasu into Sasuke. He'll neither use Tsukuyomi, nor will he extinguish Amaterasu. He won't transfer Amaterasu to Pain either. So, Itachi could do a lot against Pain. Apart from that he's a master when it comes to illusions, and we already saw that they perfectly work on Pain. We also saw a complete stadium being caught inside an illusion, and like Madara said the trick lies in how to use even a small, weak Genjutsu. Itachi's also using tricks like exploding Bunshin or Karasu Bunshin and is pretty skilled with weapons; in the shortest time he was able to find Nagatos blind spot & hit it with Kunai. Not to speak of his speed. We also saw that the hell statue can be easily defeated. Now I gave some arguments, the only real ones since the last few pages. Please answer with real arguments, not that fanboy-bullshit; it just makes you look like dumb children.
Itachi definitely could do something about Chibaku Tensei. The first way would be to destroy it with Amaterasu before it attracts too many stones. Amaterasu even burned fire itself, so it wouldn't take long to destroy the core. And since Chibaku Tensei attracts everything, it'd also attract Amaterasu. The second one would be to burn Pain with Amaterasu while he's preparing or using it, as kadowade already said it doesn't work instantly.
What will Pain do about Susanoo or Amaterasu? None of his bodys except of Gakido & Tendo could do anything about the black flames. If Gakido tries to absorb them from another body, it means that two bodys are distracted, what gives Itachi a good chance to attack. If he's clever (what he definitely is) he'll just aim for their eyes; no eyes means no power, and we already saw that Pain can be easily blinded. Susanoo means death for those who get too close to Itachi anyway (so Bansho Tennin would be suicide for Tendo). It's activated in an instant, that way Itachi was able to block Kirin. Shinra Tensei wouldn't even pressurize it that much, since it possesses Yata no Kagami & even Katsuju was able to protect the villagers from the huge version. With Yasaka no Magatama he even got a strong long range attack. Don't tell me about Itachis bad stamina now; in his battle with Sasuke he used Amaterasu four times (one time for a really long time), extinguished it once (which is quite damaging as we later saw at Sasuke), used Tsukuyomi (which got broken, that took quite a toll, too), kept Susanoo activate for about ten minutes & last but not least transfered his Amaterasu into Sasuke. He'll neither use Tsukuyomi, nor will he extinguish Amaterasu. He won't transfer Amaterasu to Pain either. So, Itachi could do a lot against Pain. Apart from that he's a master when it comes to illusions, and we already saw that they perfectly work on Pain. We also saw a complete stadium being caught inside an illusion, and like Madara said the trick lies in how to use even a small, weak Genjutsu. Itachi's also using tricks like exploding Bunshin or Karasu Bunshin and is pretty skilled with weapons; in the shortest time he was able to find Nagatos blind spot & hit it with Kunai. Not to speak of his speed. We also saw that the hell statue can be easily defeated. Now I gave some arguments, the only real ones since the last few pages. Please answer with real arguments, not that fanboy-bullshit; it just makes you look like dumb children.
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Dude the reason Itachi used his incomplete Susano'o when he saved bee and Naruto was because, in his COMPLETE version, he wouldn't be able to pick them both up because one arm has Yata Mirror, and other has Totsuku blade. Thats is why he used his incomplete version so the hands can be free.
And still, none of yall gave proof as to why Itachi can't just seal him while Nagato uses Chibaku Tensei. Just because he didn't doit, dosent mean he can't. It's just kishi, felt that he should show us another technique Itachi has And NAruto and bee working together. It annoys me when everytime Itachi chooses to use an certain technique, somebody always thinks his other techniques dosen't work, just because ITachi chose the smartest and most efficent way.
kadowade is right kishi had to make it more dramatic as to how nagato died he is not just gonna let him die that fast. and like he said just becos he did not use something does not mean it doesn't work. if itachi just sealed him right there one naruto and bee would have been dead and two nagato would have died too easily and the story would not make sense. its like how nagato used shinra tensei
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does this mean that he cannot use preta path to absorb the flames no its just that kishi made it like that.
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*Sighs*. U_U Would u please stop cursin and sayin "fanboy" That "sh!t is getting old. And what did i twist?
And Luckily Nagato was an Edo Tensei, so he was immune to Genjutsu. (except Kotoamatsukami). Because if Nagato wasen't an Edo Tensei, Itachi could've easily just pointed a finger at Nagato and immobilize him, placing him in a Genjutsu and that would've left Nagato open for an easy finish.
So as soon as Nagato prepares Chibaku Tensei, all Itachi has to do place a Genjutsu. Chibaku Tensei is not an instantaneous death. The victim will have plenty of time to think and elaborate, before he gets crushed. And Thats something Itachi does well.
And Genjutsu is Itachi's biggest factor and strength, while it's Nagato's weak point, weakness. (proved by jiraiya). So Nagato is easily open for a Genjutsu.
And Amaterasu is enough to destroy Chibaku Tensei.
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Exactly, besides that would've made Naruto and bee (2 Jinchurikis) look bad, getting completey saved by Itachi, with NO help at all.
Plus that wouldve been disrespectful if nagato died like that. Because every other Edo tensei, died consciously, and willingly, and came to their senses and knew they was about to die. And that would be wrong to have Nagato being sealed outta no where in battle, unconsciously. Thats why Kishi made ITachi say " Im going to seal you" or someting like that.
HAHA this shit is funny seriously.. if you browse back this 200 pages you'll see that you already said this back and alot of NORMAL thinking people already pawned you with this. lol
the bold parts are the most funny shit man.. I can't believe you still bring that crap. lol
Lmao pawned me? All they said was opinionated stuff like you always do.
You still think Nagato is immune to Genjutsu, now THAT shit is funny LMFAO. xd, i don't know which one of you retards made that up, LMAOxd