Itachi vs Pain

[Kira was Righteous]

u did not follow my explanation i said that when tendo is in genjutsu, when he was in konoha he was not going all out he used a lot more techs in his fight against sasuke and he was sick and going blind. paths are slower than itachi most of them barely dodged a rasenshuriken and itachi dodged bee's 7 swords attack in recent manga, he also was fast against sasuke vs itachi fight

You cant get a dead body in a genjutsu that effects the brain because there brain dead all itachis genjutsus works through the brain because he talks in there subconcious in there mind as shown with naruto,sasuke please respond to this please

 

[Free Shooter]

please visit my thread. once again tsukuomi wins

 

[arv993]

Anyways,if he can see it ( which I am not sure of ) Nagato's eyes is still protected from Itachi's eyes & he can cast attacks from inside the chameleon.

doesn't he have to summon it and this the paths right so the girl has to summon it b4 the fight starts then i see it working but itachi can get multiple targets at once in amaterasu and the summoning girl would be one of them. Dude itachi would lose in some scenarios like if they prepare all this yea he would lose but just a regular fight with him having info i can see him winning.

 

[Mark Uzumaki]

You cant get a dead body in a genjutsu that effects the brain because there brain dead all itachis genjutsus works through the brain because he talks in there subconcious in there mind as shown with naruto,sasuke please respond to this please

This point is good.Jiraiya's genjutsu uses sound,which is stated by Shikamaru to be dangerous,but Tsukyomi affects the mind , but unfortunately dead bodies have no minds just working like Shino's bugs.

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[Kira was Righteous]

Dude its not BS, i mean according to u Itachi cud beat Pain. Ok lets say you are Pain and i am Itachi, we only use our KG and no other jutsu, according to u itachi wud win. But how, its KG vs KG, tsukyomi and all that comes from Itachi's KG and chibaku tensei comes from Pain's KG but ur saying Itachi's KG wud win?? But kishi said it wont! As for Madara thats not jus pure KG vs KG, the sharingan wud usually lose to rinnegan but not all sharingan users wud lose to rinnegan users u get it? Madara has s/t so it gives him some advantage, but Itachi has only shown us sharingan techniques meaning with those he shudnt be able to win against Pain. Get it?? But as for Madara, even with his s/t he cant

Yes and im sceptical about madaras rinnegan abilties if he gets all of nagatos techs i will say hes on equal footing with him because nagato can fly and madara cant space time in the air

 

[arv993]

Dude its not BS, i mean according to u Itachi cud beat Pain. Ok lets say you are Pain and i am Itachi, we only use our KG and no other jutsu, according to u itachi wud win. But how, its KG vs KG, tsukyomi and all that comes from Itachi's KG and chibaku tensei comes from Pain's KG but ur saying Itachi's KG wud win?? But kishi said it wont! As for Madara thats not jus pure KG vs KG, the sharingan wud usually lose to rinnegan but not all sharingan users wud lose to rinnegan users u get it? Madara has s/t so it gives him some advantage, but Itachi has only shown us sharingan techniques meaning with those he shudnt be able to win against Pain. Get it?? But as for Madara, even with his s/t he cant

ok man its not just the KG vs KG there are many factors like fighting style intelligence and the use of techs that is also important in this battle, naruto is not always so simple that ppl with better KG wins. Minato with inferior s/t still beat madara that is one example, neji has a KG but he still lost narruto, the battles are noot so simple man. I see why u think pain can win its ok but i can also see itachi winning tthey r both high class ninjas its not really that simple. And what r u talking about madara would win. if u wanna argue that i would tell u why madara wins.

 

[Mark Uzumaki]

doesn't he have to summon it and this the paths right so the girl has to summon it b4 the fight starts then i see it working but itachi can get multiple targets at once in amaterasu and the summoning girl would be one of them. Dude itachi would lose in some scenarios like if they prepare all this yea he would lose but just a regular fight with him having info i can see him winning.

It's just like you said to me about Tsukyomi , Chameleon is summoned also in only one second.Preta Path could absorb Amaterasu or Deva could shinra tensei it .Nagato ( single body ) can also pull this , it's 1 second only.

When was Amaterasu capable of hitting multiple targets at once,this jutsu uses one eye to focus on one point,so whatever there burns,how can he look with one eye in many directions,to burn mutiple targets at the same time ?This is impossible for humans. ( except Byakugan users or shared paths vision )

 

[arv993]

Yes and im sceptical about madaras rinnegan abilties if he gets all of nagatos techs i will say hes on equal footing with him because nagato can fly and madara cant space time in the air

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where do u think he is standing man he can go in the air he can teleport there.

 

[arv993]

It's just like you said to me about Tsukyomi , Chameleon is summoned also in only one second.Preta Path could absorb Amaterasu or Deva could shinra tensei it .Nagato ( single body ) can also pull this , it's 1 second only.

When was Amaterasu capable of hitting multiple targets at once,this jutsu uses one eye to focus on one point,so whatever there burns,how can he look with one eye in many directions,to burn mutiple targets at the same time ?

he can get multiple targets along his field of range look

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he got two heads and with amaterasu he got nagato and his bird

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And in sasuke vs itachi u could see how accordingly as he moves he got the evrything in his isght became amaterasu

 

[Hitoshi]

hmmm i like how a day ago itachi was winning the poll now hes losing thats very intresting

 

[arv993]

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one amaterasu goes to multiple locations/targets

 

[Mark Uzumaki]

he can get multiple targets along his field of range look

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he got two heads and with amaterasu he got nagato and his bird

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And in sasuke vs itachi u could see how accordingly as he moves he got the evrything in his isght became amaterasu

Ok,I admit this,but you also failed to defeat the chameleon being summoned in 1 second & protected by both Preta Path & Deva Path to repel or absorb Amaterasu.

Eyes Hidden in Chameleon > Tsukyomi

 

[Free Shooter]

weres this proof of tsukuyomi not working on nagato

 

[arv993]

Ok,I admit this,but you also failed to defeat the chameleon being summoned in 1 second & protected by both Preta Path & Deva Path to repel or absorb Amaterasu.

Eyes Hidden in Chameleon > Tsukyomi

i'm pretty sure itachi can see it with sharingan and attack it and like i said it has to be summoned but if the summoning girl is dead then it goes away. but they have to prep that b4 the fight for it work and if itachi can't see it completely and catches him off guard it would be over for itachi.

 

[khaydz5]

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one amaterasu goes to multiple locations/targets

hahaha. dumb.

you don't get the manga dude. you cannot comprehend it. you lack imagination.

those aren't targeted on multiple points. those are "missed" amaterasu from itachi, remember sasuke is dodging it sideways and itachi is trying to hit sasuke with it.lol.

why would itachi target a forest with no one around with his amaterasu??fool! haha

he can get multiple targets along his field of range look

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he got two heads and with amaterasu he got nagato and his bird

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And in sasuke vs itachi u could see how accordingly as he moves he got the evrything in his isght became amaterasu

this one is also invalid. no, how can you be sure it was casted on the same time? itachi can't focus on two separate points with his eye! is he a chameleon? hell no. lol. wait for the anime you'll see that it will be casted one after another.

in reading manga you got to have two things.

1.common sense
2.logic

lol. i think that 2 is almost the same but you lack both of it.

 

[arv993]

weres this proof of tsukuyomi not working on nagato

there isn't

 

[Mark Uzumaki]

weres this proof of tsukuyomi not working on nagato

Read the full posts on Chameleon argument.No eye contact no Tsukyomi.Simple

 

[arv993]

hahaha. dumb.

you don't get the manga dude. you cannot comprehend it. you lack imagination.

those aren't targeted on multiple points. those are "missed" amaterasu from itachi, remember sasuke is dodging it sideways and itachi is trying to hit sasuke with it.lol.

why would itachi target a forest with no one around with his amaterasu??fool! haha

i'm showing u he is capable of it and don't forget that he got caught by it in the end even though he tried to run away.

 

[Mark Uzumaki]

i'm pretty sure itachi can see it with sharingan and attack it and like i said it has to be summoned but if the summoning girl is dead then it goes away. but they have to prep that b4 the fight for it work and if itachi can't see it completely and catches him off guard it would be over for itachi.

Without preparation , imagine the summoning girl standing facing Itachi being guarded by Deva to repel & Preta to absorb Amaterasu,Summon Chameleon in 1 second.Tsukyomi is useless,since there is no eye contact.Naraka path in chameleon some paths along with other summons fight Itachi,while others protect the chameleon.If a path dies,the protected Naraka relieves him.

Who said anything about needing to prepare for this ??

Simple isn't it ?

 

[arv993]

Without preparation , imagine the summoning girl standing facing Itachi being guarded by Deva to repel & Preta to absorb Amaterasu,Summon Chameleon.Tsukyomi is useless,since there is no eye contact.Naraka path in chameleon some paths along with other summons fight Itachi,while others protect the chameleon.If a path dies,the protected Naraka relieves him.

Simple isn't it ?

deva can be put in genjutsu, they can see each other right. itachi can also use susano and use sword of totsuka and get him. the meantime none of the attacks work becos susano is a good defense. and then he can use amaterasu right. And his chakra won't run out he did much more than this in sasuke vs itachi and he was sick. BUt yes in certain situations itachi would lose