Itachi vs Pain

[arv993]

no he doesnt he follows him with it and amateseru was used vs sasukes fire tech

yea that is what i said he can send multiple fires and since there are multiple ppl he can hit them. how hard is that for u to understand

 

[Izanami]

my last thread prooves tsukuyomi will win against nagato

go read it

did you include naruto shippuden episode 157
Did you provide a manga page or anime scene where itachi gets nagato a pure rinnegan user with mind blocks v genjutsu through the brain and genjutsu traps did you include all that ill look at it link me

 

[khaydz5]

go look at sasuke vs itachi as he moves his eyes he shoots multiple places with amaterasu and u lack logic, he can get anyone with amaterasu as long as he sees them, its not like amaterasu and he get s one target he can get more than one in one shot i did not say he focuses at two points at the same time.

it was scattered because of continuous firing of amaterasu.lol

and I was pointing here that its not possible for itachi to caught 2 paths at the same time with amaterasu unless 2 paths are hugging each other in a fight.

 

[MinatoFLASH]

ok man its not just the KG vs KG there are many factors like fighting style intelligence and the use of techs that is also important in this battle, naruto is not always so simple that ppl with better KG wins. Minato with inferior s/t still beat madara that is one example, neji has a KG but he still lost narruto, the battles are noot so simple man. I see why u think pain can win its ok but i can also see itachi winning tthey r both high class ninjas its not really that simple. And what r u talking about madara would win. if u wanna argue that i would tell u why madara wins.

I know its not that simple, yes intelligence is a factor but even a guy with no intelligence can beat Pain the way u did it, i mean even i can say that Itachi puts Pain in a genjutsu and then amatarasus the other paths then kills the last path with taijutsu. (Which isnt true becuz amatarasu hasnt been shown to hit many targets at once, anyways) That dont take intelligence that just pure power and we know what i jus said wont happen because the Rinnegan is far superior to the sharingan in power. As for the other examples Minato has inferior s/t put then has superior ninjutsu such as FTG , Neji lost because Naruto has kyuubi, he sealed all of his points remember? And today neji wud lose because Naruto's jutsus, the battles arent simple but Itachi vs Nagato is simply KG vs KG i mean they dont use any other thing, they both are weak without their KG unlike Madara and Minato, Madara has s/t and Minato has crazy speed,FTG, rasengan, etc. U see in this battle its all about KG vs KG which mean Pain is more likely to win. Now for Madara vs Pain, he can just shinra tensei if Madara uses s/t and Madara wud almost die, he isnt that tough he wud be killed by Pain if it wasnt for EMS or Rinnegan, especially Rinnegan.

 

[Free Shooter]

This is why Tsukiyomi won't work on pain, this is to free shooter

Next Argument Please.

oh i admit the tsukuyomi win't work on the bodies. they don't have minds

thats wht 6 paths of pain beat itachi

but itachi beats nagato 1 on 1

 

[Izanami]

yea that is what i said he can send multiple fires and since there are multiple ppl he can hit them. how hard is that for u to understand

ok show me the manga page please where he fires multiple amateseru in different directions from his eye rather than him amateseru one after another at different parts

 

[Mark Uzumaki]

thanks but there are situations in which pain can lose to itachi too that is all i am saying.

I think this situation is Itachi not fighting the 6 paths at the same time,we also forgot Itachi has to deal with Nagato after the 6 paths,which since you assumed Itachi is healthy previously,I assume Nagato as complete & not crippled(having speed to dodge a Rasenshuriken )

I will send a friend request,I want to have other debates later.

 

[arv993]

it was scattered because of continuous firing of amaterasu.lol

and I was pointing here that its not possible for itachi to caught 2 paths at the same time with amaterasu unless 2 paths are hugging each other in a fight.

how stupid are u as long as he sees(he can move around his eyes and see them too). But no matter what u won't accept it

 

[Free Shooter]

did you include naruto shippuden episode 157
Did you provide a manga page or anime scene where itachi gets nagato a pure rinnegan user with mind blocks v genjutsu through the brain and genjutsu traps did you include all that ill look at it link me

i included th ep 157 yes also the ep 160

 

[Izanami]

oh i admit the tsukuyomi win't work on the bodies. they don't have minds

thats wht 6 paths of pain beat itachi

but itachi beats nagato 1 on 1

link me to this thread i really want to read it

 

[narutozz]

I know its not that simple, yes intelligence is a factor but even a guy with no intelligence can beat Pain the way u did it, i mean even i can say that Itachi puts Pain in a genjutsu and then amatarasus the other paths then kills the last path with taijutsu. (Which isnt true becuz amatarasu hasnt been shown to hit many targets at once, anyways) That dont take intelligence that just pure power and we know what i jus said wont happen because the Rinnegan is far superior to the sharingan in power. As for the other examples Minato has inferior s/t put then has superior ninjutsu such as FTG , Neji lost because Naruto has kyuubi, he sealed all of his points remember? And today neji wud lose because Naruto's jutsus, the battles arent simple but Itachi vs Nagato is simply KG vs KG i mean they dont use any other thing, they both are weak without their KG unlike Madara and Minato, Madara has s/t and Minato has crazy speed,FTG, rasengan, etc. U see in this battle its all about KG vs KG which mean Pain is more likely to win. Now for Madara vs Pain, he can just shinra tensei if Madara uses s/t and Madara wud almost die, he isnt that tough he wud be killed by Pain if it wasnt for EMS or Rinnegan, especially Rinnegan.

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[Retsu]

And ppl keep assuming the pains move at a snails pace, Itachi's speed is not going to give him a major advantage, not to mention itachi has nothing on the ALL MIGHTY PUSH, saying Susan can stop this is like me hiding behind a wall hoping not to get got by an earthquake

 

[Mark Uzumaki]

oh i admit the tsukuyomi win't work on the bodies. they don't have minds

thats wht 6 paths of pain beat itachi

but itachi beats nagato 1 on 1

That's my argument which appears you didn't read it,Nagato hides in the chameleon & fights from inside it , so his eyes are always protected from Itachi's.

Chameleon burned by Amaterasu use Shinra Tensei or preta

Chameleon about to be hit by Totsuka use chameleon speed blitz or shinra tensei

Simple

 

[Izanami]

And ppl keep assuming the pains move at a snails pace, Itachi's speed is not going to give him a major advantage, not to mention itachi has nothing on the ALL MIGHTY PUSH, saying Susan can stop this is like me hiding behind a wall hoping not to get got by an earthquake

itachi is not faster then the 9 tails his speed at best is as fast as a path just ignore them

 

[arv993]

ok show me the manga page please where he fires multiple amateseru in different directions from his eye rather than him amateseru one after another at different parts

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[Free Shooter]

link me to this thread i really want to read it

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[MinatoFLASH]

nagato looses to tskuyomi and ive allready proven the genjutsu block theory wrong

If Nagato loses to tsukyomi then why did Kishi say Rinnegan is better? Is Kishi wrong or are you wrong?

 

[arv993]

I know its not that simple, yes intelligence is a factor but even a guy with no intelligence can beat Pain the way u did it, i mean even i can say that Itachi puts Pain in a genjutsu and then amatarasus the other paths then kills the last path with taijutsu. (Which isnt true becuz amatarasu hasnt been shown to hit many targets at once, anyways) That dont take intelligence that just pure power and we know what i jus said wont happen because the Rinnegan is far superior to the sharingan in power. As for the other examples Minato has inferior s/t put then has superior ninjutsu such as FTG , Neji lost because Naruto has kyuubi, he sealed all of his points remember? And today neji wud lose because Naruto's jutsus, the battles arent simple but Itachi vs Nagato is simply KG vs KG i mean they dont use any other thing, they both are weak without their KG unlike Madara and Minato, Madara has s/t and Minato has crazy speed,FTG, rasengan, etc. U see in this battle its all about KG vs KG which mean Pain is more likely to win. Now for Madara vs Pain, he can just shinra tensei if Madara uses s/t and Madara wud almost die, he isnt that tough he wud be killed by Pain if it wasnt for EMS or Rinnegan, especially Rinnegan.

minato said that he had an inferior s/t u can read the manga. Ok do u think neji would beat regular naruto now, no way. shinra tensei won't work on madara he would just turn intangible and he can go beneath the ground, go behind or anywhere and just absorb him, Madara has hax ability dude he would win, nagato is not fast enough to dodge that. A better KG does not ensure u win, in naruto that has been disproved many times. BEtter KG is not always equal to win

 

[arv993]

If Nagato loses to tsukyomi then why did Kishi say Rinnegan is better? Is Kishi wrong or are you wrong?

um did kishi mention that rinnegan is immune to genjutsu even the best ones like tsukiyomi

 

[Izanami]

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look at my post that should be clear enough for you
your arguement is biast and leaves a lot of things out like your friend avr