Itachi vs Pain
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Kira was Righteous
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i never said he was immune to all genjutsu tell me how itachi would win show me 1 move at a time
In all actuality he turned his weakness into a major strength, with his pains bodies pseudo minds, if someone cast a genjutsu on pain and is playing around in the tendo's head, the others are free to rape said caster, so he's not immune to genjutsu, but that's also a strength
Mark Uzumaki
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There is no way , the six paths can lose to Itachi using Tsukyomi ,even if the strongest one (Deva) is caught in Tsukyomi , other 5 will kill Itachi . Either Itachi concentrate on Tsukyomi on the one path who is caught & die by the other paths or admit Tsukyomi is usless against Pain.
That's what happened with Jiraiya,one path under genjutsu , other paths rape Jiraiya.
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paths are not a different source of chakra they are his own chakra they can't disturb him out of it.
And as for pain i can see itachi winning if he had info but if not then he would lose. the reason i think he can win if he had info is becus he would put tendo in genjutsu, and then he can attack the rest with amaterasu which they are not fast enough to dodge so they would easily be caught in it and itachi can sed multiple fires through one amaterasu to multiple targets. Preta path would survive but he can be dealt with taijutsu or sword. I can see him comming up with a good paln and beating them if he knew their abilities.
MinatoFLASH
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U shud know without me telling u, narutopedia says it as well and so does the manga that rinnegan>any other doujutsu, so Rinnegan>any sharingan. But ur denying the manga and saying that the sharingan's genjutsu powers cud beat the rinnegan. Which is the opposite of what the manga says. In your world the sharingan is better than the rinnegan because of genjutsu lol! But in the real world kishi says that Rinnegan> other visual doujutsu. In case u didnt know Pain/Nagato has rinnegan and Itachi has sharingan. So unless your still in 1st grade u shud be able to figure this out. Rinnegan> Sharingan, so Pain>Itachi. But maybe in ur brain its more confusing lol. ur probably like " rinnegan>sharingan, that must mean Itachi>Pain"! lol i am sry but why deny the manga??
Mark Uzumaki
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Since when was Tsukyomi a so easy to cast genjutsu , so that Itachi can fight 5 other strong people while still looking into the victim's eyes. ( Did Itachi recently get a Byakugan or shared vision ??? )to fight 5 people attacking his back while looking into victim's eyes.
no way huh it takes one sec for him to put one in genjutsu and i said with info he would use it on tendo. the others are prone to amaterasu, they won't dodge it they are not fast enough and he can get multiple targets with one amaterasu by using one amaterasu and only preta would survive that and he can be dealt with by taijutsu. Don't forget the guy is really smart he can come up with a plan like that easy the other paths are not fast and won't get him easy and they won't be able to dodge the amaterasu.
it takles a sec to use genjutsu for itachi and the other paths are slower than him he can easily dodge any attacks and amaterasu is fast they won't dodge it. Only preta would survive that but he can die with taijutsu. And this is healthy itachi with better stamina.
rinnegan>sharingan is not equal to win that is just bs dude, there is no proof rinnegan is immune to it but yet u keep saying that. Ok forget about itachi since ur saying rinnegan would always win against sharingan tell me how nagato can beat madara who has s/t jutsu.
Mark Uzumaki
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I just found another source of power for Nagato against genjutsu
Nagato hide in his invisible chameleon,which couldn't even be detected by Naruto's Chakra Mode emotion sensing & he was caught by it which is so fast,making him appear like speed blitz behind Killer Bee.That way Itachi can't see Nagato's eyes to even look into them to cast Tsukyomi
6 Paths could also use it , but only one path can hide in it , I say Naraka Path to revieve whoever dies & he is completely safe.
Kira was Righteous
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right everything you have just said i will break it down with facts for you
1.Nagato has genjutsu blocks inside there minds not there ears
2.Where does it say paths are slower then itacj
3.Amateseru can be absorbed or shinra tensei
4.When in konoha healthy he used 3 MS techs and was out of chakra
ok if they prepare something like that yes i can see pain winning, but can't itachi see its chakra with his sharingan. But i am comparing it to a fight like how it was with naruto vs pain and that kind of setting.
MinatoFLASH
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Well he wud just keep lauching missiles on him and Madara cant use s/t ninjutsu forever so he wud soon run out of chakra and lose because the human path will take his soul. Madara wud also lose to Nagato unless Madara has rinnegan.
Mark Uzumaki
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That's against Pain,but against single body Nagato,he used chameleon a lot mainly because he was crippled,so it isn't hard to jump in & go invisible.As for seeing chakra,Naruto's emotion sensing couldn't even sense it , which is by the way better than many sensing experts like C.
If Naruto had sensed it,he wouldn't have let himself be in this situation where his soul is being ripped off.
Anyway,if he can see it,his eyes is still protected from Itachi's eyes.
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u did not follow my explanation i said that when tendo is in genjutsu, when he was in konoha he was not going all out he used a lot more techs in his fight against sasuke and he was sick and going blind. paths are slower than itachi most of them barely dodged a rasenshuriken and itachi dodged bee's 7 swords attack in recent manga, he also was fast against sasuke vs itachi fight
no man ur wrong its pretty easy for madra to win he absorbs ppl very fast and all he has to do is teleport to nagato and absorb him into another dimension, nagato would lose. all nagato's attacks can be nulled when he uses intagibility and he can just go behind or below him and absorb him. He can stay intangible 5 minutes each time he uses it. Madara would win that
Mark Uzumaki
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Anyways,if he can see it ( which I am not sure of ) Nagato's eyes is still protected from Itachi's eyes & he can cast attacks from inside the chameleon,without looking Itachi in the eyes.Chameleon can speed blitz . ( he speed blitzed Bee after a strong shinra tensei sent him flying )
MinatoFLASH
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Dude its not BS, i mean according to u Itachi cud beat Pain. Ok lets say you are Pain and i am Itachi, we only use our KG and no other jutsu, according to u itachi wud win. But how, its KG vs KG, tsukyomi and all that comes from Itachi's KG and chibaku tensei comes from Pain's KG but ur saying Itachi's KG wud win?? But kishi said it wont! As for Madara thats not jus pure KG vs KG, the sharingan wud usually lose to rinnegan but not all sharingan users wud lose to rinnegan users u get it? Madara has s/t so it gives him some advantage, but Itachi has only shown us sharingan techniques meaning with those he shudnt be able to win against Pain. Get it?? But as for Madara, even with his s/t he cant