Itachi vs Minato
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you should look at the past posts but I'll repeat myself so that you will understand, he doesnt need to look at Itachi's eyes to avoid Amaterasu, if he can see A who is faster then Amaterasu before A touches him then he can see amaterasu and he wont look at Itachi's eyes so he can use tsukuyomi. Minato cant penetrate Susanoo but using Susanoo is killing Itach for him already and if he throws Kunai at Itachi's feet, he can teleport into the Susanoo since there's no protection at the feet
A is only faster than Amaterasu in lightining armor V2. That is why when Sasuke activated Ms, Raikage activated V2. Because it stimulated his senses and reflexes, and that gave him a heads up that Sasuke was using Amaterasu. Minato won't "See" Amaterasu coming. Itachi's is just gonna appear onto his body. Minato has no kind of precognition to tell it's being used, like Raikage. Minato has the speed though. which isn't enough.
Yes Minato can dodge an Amaterasu if itachi makes it travel, but if he make it instantly appear Minato won't be able to dodge it cuz he wont be able to tell it's bein used like Raikage. (Itachi wasen't "really" tryna get Sasuke
And Itachi's feet is protected. Susano'o is like a house, Itachi is inside.
And still, We dont even know if Minato knows about Itachi's Tsukiyomi, or how it's done
If amaterasu didnt travel raikage wouldnt have dodged it, amaterasu is Amaterasu. It always travels see naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Amaterasu
also thhe bottom isnt protected as Sasuke was inside Itachi's susanoo, Madara could be pulled out of his susanoo, Naruto and Bee stood inside Itachi's full Susanoo. He wont look into the eyes, its Sharingan battle 101
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Dude it wasent traveling at 1st it was appearing instantly where Itachi was looking. (Which was the last place sasuke was running) He can chase you with it if he chooses or just make it appear instantly. Heres tha video again
Raikage moved before it appeared. Besides Raikage dodged a Noobs Amaterasu. Itachi wud definatly use it more efficently than someone who just got it.
The bottom is protected. Thats why Itachi's landing was so destructive.
Madara's probably wasent protected.
I think they can allow stuff to come inside or outside of it. Like when sasuke used Firestyle fireball.
Everyone dosent know about the Sharingan, and especially not to look at their eyes. Besides not all Genjutsu require eye contact
no no no sasuke uses a different amatersau, enton blaze release that travels,itachi's amaterasu instantly appears on w.e he shoots at , if you're escaping itachi's eye sight it will follow you untill he locks on...
whatever the user focuses on, it materializes there
?? that makes no sense, minato saw A dissapear and then used his ftg to escape, he wont be seeing amaterasu, it instantly appears on you, and he is not looking at his eyes
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I could be wrong, I often am, but I've conceived that Minato lacks the feats to beat Itachi, and feats are what the VS threads run on. Minato may be stronger in terms of author-intention, but I maintain that he is weaker in feats. And in feats, Itachi is an absolute monster, truly rivaled only by Nagato, Kabuto, and Tobi. Here is my take:
Typically, you need special training to even have the option of fighting Itachi on even ground. Minato has no feats of special training, doujutsu to see through genjutsu, or a tailed beast to break him out instantly.
Moreover, no character possesses the speed feats to touch healthy Itachi one on one - even on even ground - given that current Naruto and Bee were unable to. Hiraishin is, of course, an exception, but given that Bee countered it to an extent - Itachi likely can as well.
Moreover, Itachi has cloning feats to make Hiraishin more difficult to use as a finisher. Can you imagine Minato with a clone feat? He'd rule the Battledome. Itachi x 2 is too much for most, like Minato x 2 or Madara x 2 would be. His Karasu Bunshin defeated post-wind Naruto. Also, Itachi’s Kage Bunshin explode, and the databook indicates that you need a special eye to tell that the bunshin is about to explode.
However, avoiding Itachi’s eyes isn’t enough. You have to avoid his fingers as well, and the eyes of his crow-summon, which has Shisui’s Sharingan, and can cast powerful Sharingan genjutsu at Itachi's discretion that crippled post-wind Naruto. There are immeasurable opportunities for Itachi to create an opening for his very fast attacks and jutsu.
Zetsu said that the requirement to break Sharingan genjutsu was having a greater net-combination of genjutsu skill and eye power. Madara said Itachi let Sasuke out of his genjutsu: Sasuke didn’t have the Mangekyō or more genjutsu skill. The databook, a source of canon, says that Kais don't work, which makes since, as the med-nin genjutsu user, C, wouldn’t have been fodderized by Sasuke’s genjutsu otherwise. Therefore, Minato's ability to effectively counter genjutsu is more dubitable than Itachi's ability to counter Hiraishin, because even if he was a counter, he doesn't have a feat of having a counter.
Itachi is no longer a *****. He very clearly has much stronger endurance than when he was sick. He used several of his base and Mangekyō techniques without fatiguing. We know that Edos are
To reiterate, I personally believe the author sees these two are equal, and am not impartial to the idea of Minato being the victor in the author's mind, but in terms of deductive arguments based on feats, there is little room to argue that a speedster without a feat-counter against genjutsu can beat an illusionist with many feat-counters against speed. Thanks for you time, if I received it. Please read it over, think about it, and get back to me if you disagree with my examination of facts. As I said before, I have been wrong many times, and this may not be an exception.
Typically, you need special training to even have the option of fighting Itachi on even ground. Minato has no feats of special training, doujutsu to see through genjutsu, or a tailed beast to break him out instantly.
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Moreover, no character possesses the speed feats to touch healthy Itachi one on one - even on even ground - given that current Naruto and Bee were unable to. Hiraishin is, of course, an exception, but given that Bee countered it to an extent - Itachi likely can as well.
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Moreover, Itachi has cloning feats to make Hiraishin more difficult to use as a finisher. Can you imagine Minato with a clone feat? He'd rule the Battledome. Itachi x 2 is too much for most, like Minato x 2 or Madara x 2 would be. His Karasu Bunshin defeated post-wind Naruto. Also, Itachi’s Kage Bunshin explode, and the databook indicates that you need a special eye to tell that the bunshin is about to explode.
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However, avoiding Itachi’s eyes isn’t enough. You have to avoid his fingers as well, and the eyes of his crow-summon, which has Shisui’s Sharingan, and can cast powerful Sharingan genjutsu at Itachi's discretion that crippled post-wind Naruto. There are immeasurable opportunities for Itachi to create an opening for his very fast attacks and jutsu.
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Zetsu said that the requirement to break Sharingan genjutsu was having a greater net-combination of genjutsu skill and eye power. Madara said Itachi let Sasuke out of his genjutsu: Sasuke didn’t have the Mangekyō or more genjutsu skill. The databook, a source of canon, says that Kais don't work, which makes since, as the med-nin genjutsu user, C, wouldn’t have been fodderized by Sasuke’s genjutsu otherwise. Therefore, Minato's ability to effectively counter genjutsu is more dubitable than Itachi's ability to counter Hiraishin, because even if he was a counter, he doesn't have a feat of having a counter.
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Itachi is no longer a *****. He very clearly has much stronger endurance than when he was sick. He used several of his base and Mangekyō techniques without fatiguing. We know that Edos are
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immune to bodily fatigue. Look at his list of jutsu used against Nagato and Naruto, and realize that he didn't appear to be nearing his limit. He's a genius and a hard worker, so this shouldn't be surprising.-
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To reiterate, I personally believe the author sees these two are equal, and am not impartial to the idea of Minato being the victor in the author's mind, but in terms of deductive arguments based on feats, there is little room to argue that a speedster without a feat-counter against genjutsu can beat an illusionist with many feat-counters against speed. Thanks for you time, if I received it. Please read it over, think about it, and get back to me if you disagree with my examination of facts. As I said before, I have been wrong many times, and this may not be an exception.
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I was often considered more of a troll than a good poster,so thanks guys.
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