Itachi vs Hashirama

[USSJ Future Trunks]

More fail comparisons? Fugaku doesn't have the same exact powers as Fugaku genius so no that is nothing like what i'm saying....Hashirama has the feats Madara performed cause they are HIS Jutsu, get that through your head

no its madaras jutsu. are people suddenly unable to manipulate wood into variations? yamato did so CONSTANTLY. unless your saying hashi can magically make contemporary houses out of thin air. yamato had to have created that himself. its an element. your saying that kimimaro can never come up with any variations on the bloodline he got from his predecessors? when it looks like thats exactly what happened.

Mokuton Bunshins>

doesnt mean its by a large margin, and anyway what feats suggest this? narutos clones were making more clones. that shit is OP

Madara said he had instant regeneration

no he didnt. no one said it was instant. and like tsunade he should have the same flaws and limitations. otherwise what is with the panel where he was bloodied and lost an eye?

He isn't going to be able to see Hashirama through this.

what makes you think that would be there in time? as i said making a lot of seals and making wood is slower than looking at someone

or this.

probably because madara did that and hes not in this match

So Amaterasu is out of the question..

its never "out of the question". its a fact for any uchiha fight. they set on fire whatever they focus their eyes on and it never runs out. sasuke did it vs danzo and danzo HAD to izanagi it away, not mokuton it. danzo >>>hashirama in speed

if he uses the Flower World even if he gets hit with Amaterasu (which he won't

um yes he will. fastest jutsu in any uchiha arsenal, hyped to be the strongest offensive ocular jutsu and strongest defence, can never run out, can be manipulated. its been a oneshot kill for most unless you have a specifc way of surviving (shinra tensei, kamui, izanagi, minato level speed and reaction time). if you dont your dead. there isnt any sort of way you can attribute madaras speed to hashirama's nor attribute his reactions to hashiramas.

Hashirama lasts longer because his auto healing allows him to stay standing longer than others would..

can he heal his eyes or brain?

Hashirama could just use Mokuton: Advent of a world of flowering trees on Itachi which would knock Itachi out as soon as he inhales it

no he couldnt. as hed be dead before that. you need either minato level speed and reaction time or another doujutsu if you want to defeat itachi

which would easily catch Itachi and strangle him to death

so he will just stand there and let this happen?

 

[KidGamer65]

no its madaras jutsu. are people suddenly unable to manipulate wood into variations? yamato did so CONSTANTLY. unless your saying hashi can magically make contemporary houses out of thin air. yamato had to have created that himself. its an element. your saying that kimimaro can never come up with any variations on the bloodline he got from his predecessors? when it looks like thats exactly what happened.

Why should I believe that Madara made those Jutsu up himself when he probably never practiced Mokuton since he said "there is jutsu I want to try" before using Jukai Kotan, and every Mokuton Jutsu Madara has shown originally belonged to Hashirama, why would this one be any different.

no he didnt. no one said it was instant. and like tsunade he should have the same flaws and limitations. otherwise what is with the panel where he was bloodied and lost an eye?

Byakugou instantly heals you after you receive the wound..t probably ran out by then seeing what he used is a jutsu and you need chakra for a jutsu.

what makes you think that would be there in time? as i said making a lot of seals and making wood is slower than looking at someone

What bunch of hand seals? All it takes is putting his hands together into a fist. And regardless of Amaterasu hitting him or not...Itachi will still fall first due to the Flower World.

probably because madara did that and hes not in this match

I should just ignore this but, Hashirama's Mokuton is better.

its never "out of the question". its a fact for any uchiha fight. they set on fire whatever they focus their eyes on and it never runs out. sasuke did it vs danzo and danzo HAD to izanagi it away, not mokuton it. danzo >>>hashirama in speed

Hashirama's Mokuton>Danzo's Mokuton, and he didn't use Izanagi specifically for Amaterasu, Izanagi was already active so might as well have taken the hit.

um yes he will. fastest jutsu in any uchiha arsenal, hyped to be the strongest offensive ocular jutsu and strongest defence, can never run out, can be manipulated. its been a oneshot kill for most unless you have a specifc way of surviving (shinra tensei, kamui, izanagi, minato level speed and reaction time). if you dont your dead. there isnt any sort of way you can attribute madaras speed to hashirama's nor attribute his reactions to hashiramas.

Even if he gets hit, Itachi falls to the Flower World.

can he heal his eyes or brain?

You act like Amaterasu will instantly burn right through him, which it won't...in the end Itachi still falls to the Flower World.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

Why should I believe that Madara made those Jutsu up himself when he probably never practiced Mokuton since he said "there is jutsu I want to try" before using Jukai Kotan,

yeah TRY ON ACTUAL OPPONENTS. he probably never got any real fighting time to test his strength in that cave. all he wanted was rinnegan but he couldnt awaken it

every Mokuton Jutsu Madara has shown originally belonged to Hashirama, why would this one be any different.

hashirama never had taijuu mokubunshins

What bunch of hand seals? All it takes is putting his hands together into a fist

it wasnt that way in the anime IIRC

And regardless of Amaterasu hitting him or not...Itachi will still fall first due to the Flower World.

how will hashirama release pollen if hes burning to death

Hashirama's Mokuton>Danzo's Mokuton

irrelevant. he could have used it and didnt

Even if he gets hit, Itachi falls to the Flower World.

being asleep is better than being burnt to a crisp. as i said its not like he will stand there and hope ammy alone is sufficient. from there he can force hashi to look at his eyes then bam. tsukiyomi. you dont think straight when on fire. and if flower world is your answer to everything how does he create it before hes burnt alive, and how does he get it to work when its failed twice on two different opponents? if its such a trump card why did madara get away? oh right because it failed.

You act like Amaterasu will instantly burn right through him, which it won't

it burnt through zetsus in an instant, as well as pains summons and caused heavy damage to edo nagato before he ST'd it off of him

 

[KidGamer65]

hashirama never had taijuu mokubunshins

Madara used both variations of Mokuton Bunshins.

it wasnt that way in the anime IIRC

Well it was in the manga.

how will hashirama release pollen if hes burning to death
irrelevant. he could have used it and didnt

What do you mean how? How it is normally done...Amaterasu won't insta kill him.
Danzo had Izanagi so why would he use it?

being asleep is better than being burnt to a crisp. as i said its not like he will stand there and hope ammy alone is sufficient. from there he can force hashi to look at his eyes then bam. tsukiyomi. you dont think straight when on fire. and if flower world is your answer to everything how does he create it before hes burnt alive, and how does he get it to work when its failed twice on two different opponents? if its such a trump card why did madara get away? oh right because it failed.

How is he going to look in his eyes when he's asleep?, how is he going to look into his eyes when Hashirama can avoid eye contact? Bringing up how it failed is pointless since THEY BOTH HAD WAYS TO EVADE IT (Kages and Madara). How will he force Hashirama to look into his eyes?

it burnt through zetsus in an instant, as well as pains summons and caused heavy damage to edo nagato before he ST'd it off of him

Burning through goop really isn't an accomplishment and Nagato doesn't have healing w/o handseals..and Nagato was wearing a simple cloak...Hashirama has the same type of battle armor Madara wears...Amaterasu isn't insta killing him.

Once he is asleep...Hashirama uses Jukai Kotan and finishes him off.

 

[GreatestUchiha15]

Hashirama could just use Mokuton: Advent of a world of flowering trees on Itachi which would knock Itachi out as soon as he inhales it and also Wood Release Secret Technique: Nativity of a World of Trees which would easily catch Itachi and strangle him to death

If his Susanoo is activated this can be avoided

 

[GreatestUchiha15]

Exactly! He did this in the other thread....though I should have figured that he is a fanboy.

U say im just a fanboy but my valid points hurt u inside

 

[GreatestUchiha15]

hes a fanboy dont worry hes fighting a loosing battle by coming up with the SAME counters, if its not yata mirror its tousuka if its not that is the actual susano or amaterasu, hes never come up with a valid counter for the appropriate scenarios

Ur a true fanboy that cant deal with knowing im right every single time i put u in ur place u come up with a juvenile comment.

 

[GreatestUchiha15]

Hmmm do what i do.. put him in his place when he talks bs i already know you use facts continue to do so

You've never been able to "put me in my place" every debate we've had ive shut u down without having to think too heavily

 

[Izuna Kakashi Senju]

Itachi can not defeat Hashirama because Hashirama can heal without hand seals so Itachi's attacks wouldn't cause too much damage and before anyone says totsuka blade, it hasn't demonstrated any speed feats as it has only sealed people off guard. Hashirama should be able to dodge it then hit Itachi with Genjutsu: Bringer of darkness, then hit him with a wood style: advent of a flowering world to finish itachi off

 

[~Uzumaki~]

Hashirama can undoubtedly heal himself of Tsukuyomi damage.
Can grow Mokuton from his skin to remove Amaterasu if he gets hit, then heal the burns.
Can use powerful Mokuton which require multiple giant Rasengans, which are said to crush mountains, to block all Susanoo attacks.
Can grow Mokuton(which are so fast that Hashirama is said to create a forest in an instant)from underground to capture and crush Itachi.
Can put Itachi to sleep with pollen.

This isn't a match.

 

[End of Days]

this isnt a debate, itachi has no secret jutsu left, saying that is just retarded. He has got enough screen time to display his complete arsenal unlike some other characters

if its such a trump card why did madara get away? oh right because it failed.

obviously cause of perfect susanoo which places madara so high that

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plus madara had the power to actually do something against the pollen producing flowers

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too bad itachi has neither of these things

 

[KidGamer65]

U say im just a fanboy but my valid points hurt u inside

Your points aren't valid...in fact, they make no sense at all.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

obviously cause of perfect susanoo which places madara so high that the pollen cant reach him

proof it was used vs hashi when madara said everyone who sees it dies?

Well it was in the manga.

manga cant accurately portray how many seals itd take. too much panel time

How is he going to look in his eyes when he's asleep?, how is he going to look into his eyes when Hashirama can avoid eye contact?

how is looking in his eyes slower than clapping his hands together and making a gigantic forest. if he avoids eye contact he gets ammy'd and burnt to death

Bringing up how it failed is pointless since THEY BOTH HAD WAYS TO EVADE IT (Kages and Madara). How will he force Hashirama to look into his eyes?

how does hashirama know hes an uchiha if itachi has his sharingan deactivated at the start? ergo he wouldnt know off the bat not to gaze into his eyes

Burning through goop really isn't an accomplishment

it was hashiramas weaker clones. if they are incinerated in seconds, he himself will take a minute at best

...Hashirama has the same type of battle armor Madara wears...Amaterasu isn't insta killing him.

yes it is

Once he is asleep...Hashirama uses Jukai Kotan and finishes him off.

once hashirama begins the prep needed for flower world, he is burnt and impaled/sealed forever

Itachi can not defeat Hashirama because Hashirama can heal without hand seals

and since when is this instant? if itachi can beat tsunade why the **** cant he get past this regen? he cant heal from being sealed or from undying flames burning him

before anyone says totsuka blade, it hasn't demonstrated any speed feats

ok. when has hashirama demonstrated better reaction times than orochimaru?

Hashirama should be able to dodge it

based on what nonexistent feats?

Hashirama can undoubtedly heal himself of Tsukuyomi damage

healing damage doesnt mean you can survive having your mind raped. you can train your body to a point but never your mind

then hit Itachi with Genjutsu: Bringer of darkness, then hit him with a wood style: advent of a flowering world to finish itachi off

and itahci will just STAND THERE and let all this happen? he who had freaking hand seals faster than sharingan could keep up with? he who has techs activated by standing there and looking at the opponent? if hashi can regenerate without seals, itachi can block anything and burn anything without seals. he'd simply reverse darkness back onto hashirama.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

Can grow Mokuton from his skin to remove Amaterasu if he gets hit, then heal the burns.

no he cant. if hes being hit then he will be probably passing out from the pain, not thinking of an immediate counter. and its not like itachi cant just do it again

Can use powerful Mokuton which require multiple giant Rasengans, which are said to crush mountains, to block all Susanoo attacks

really? totsuka sliced past hydra heads and kimimaro bones (said to be stronger than steel and a more desirable bloodline than sharingan). and that was madaras powerful mokuton. hashiramas version was already smashed by hiruzen

Can grow Mokuton(which are so fast that Hashirama is said to create a forest in an instant

no he isnt. not once did this ever get said anywhere nor was it even implied, nor was it shown vs hiruzen meaning you made that up completely out of your ass

Can put Itachi to sleep with pollen.

and itachi will stand there and let that happen? he wont just look at hashi and either mindrape him or set him on fire?

 

[KidGamer65]

proof it was used vs hashi when madara said everyone who sees it dies?

Really? You wanna go here...PS is an EMS jutsu he had EMS vs Hashirama, nuff said..

how is looking in his eyes slower than clapping his hands together and making a gigantic forest. if he avoids eye contact he gets ammy'd and burnt to death

If he avoids eye contact and get hit with Amaterasu the Flower World will put him to sleep before he gets burnt up

how does hashirama know hes an uchiha if itachi has his sharingan deactivated at the start? ergo he wouldnt know off the bat not to gaze into his eyes

If he doesn't have Sharingan active at the start that'll just make it far easier than it actually is to kill him.

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t was hashiramas weaker clones. if they are incinerated in seconds, he himself will take a minute at best

So what if they were Hashirama's clones...your comparing a Human body to a pile of goop.

yes it is

Are you kidding me? Go show me someone who's been one-shotted by Amaterasu and then we'll talk.

once hashirama begins the prep needed for flower world, he is burnt and impaled/sealed forever

Still fabricating nonsense...hashirama claps his hands together and that's it..no prep needed.

and since when is this instant? if itachi can beat tsunade why the **** cant he get past this regen? he cant heal from being sealed or from undying flames burning him

Its instant since Madara said it was instant....Byakugou is instant, and he said it's the same as what Hashirama did.

and itahci will just STAND THERE and let all this happen? he who had freaking hand seals faster than sharingan could keep up with? he who has techs activated by standing there and looking at the opponent? if hashi can regenerate without seals, itachi can block anything and burn anything without seals. he'd simply reverse darkness back onto hashirama.

@bold: LOL stop pulling stuff out of your ass..

 

[TheTailedSage]

You've never been able to "put me in my place" every debate we've had ive shut u down without having to think too heavily

Dont have time for the likes of you trust me

 

[Boskarta]

It takes time for Itachi to use Amaterasu, and his eye bleeds when he's going to.
It's not exactly difficult to think hmm, he's going to do something.


Is everyone forgetting who Hashirama's rival was? Madara.
Y'know, by far the strongest Uchiha there has been so far.

If Hashi never knew not to look in to an Uchiha's eyes Madara would have totally ruined him.


Hashi could make a forest in an instant or just a tree trunk to cover him from Amaterasu, or just heal, which he didn't even need seals to do.
Sharingan genjutsu is making eye contact, not looking at somebodies eyes.


Mokuton is an extremely versatile type of jutsu. He doesn't just have to grow trees towards Itachi he can make them chase him and impale him. Wouldn't be an instant win for Hashi but it would most certainly be a win.

 

[enditallsin]

hashirama not only destroys itachi, shits on him, and puts his abilities(HELL! his entire being) to shame with ease but exposes him( to the fullest) for the fraud that he is,hashirama is in the list of people who completely embarrasses itachi in everyway possible...

 

[GreatestUchiha15]

Dont have time for the likes of you trust me

The reason you dont have the time is because you dont have the knowledge

 

[enditallsin]

Imma say it like this itachi may be a so called "prodigy" but you put him in front of hashirama hes on a even lower level than amateur hell! hes on a lower level than beginner...