Itachi vs Hashirama

[TheTailedSage]

The reason you dont have the time is because you dont have the knowledge

what point have i not countered... ive coutered every single one :/

 

[yuan of cruxis]

People wanna assume that Hashirama is immune to genjutsu, for the sole fact of him beating Madara
But theres no proof that Madara did it in his fight with him, and some people argue that he doesn't have it.
And even if he did, it was never stated that his tsukuyomi is better than Itachi's.
We all know that Itachi is the master of genjutsu afterall.
And we know Itachi is more intelligent than Madara
We also know that Itachi is incredibly fast, way faster than Madara and Hashirama
Along with his hype and feats, I can't see little ole Hashirama beating Itachi
And out of everything I just said, people forget that this is EMS MAdara that fought Hashirama

 

[TheTailedSage]

People wanna assume that Hashirama is immune to genjutsu, for the sole fact of him beating Madara
But theres no proof that Madara did it in his fight with him, and some people argue that he doesn't have it.
And even if he did, it was never stated that his tsukuyomi is better than Itachi's.
We all know that Itachi is the master of genjutsu afterall.
And we know Itachi is more intelligent than Madara
We also know that Itachi is incredibly fast, way faster than Madara and Hashirama
Along with his hype and feats, I can't see little ole Hashirama beating Itachi
And out of everything I just said, people forget that this is EMS MAdara that fought Hashirama

Thats like saying sasuke would hold back against narutoo hes guna use most if not all his jutsu, if madara had eternal he has to haave some form of genjutsu and saying itatchi is the master of genjutsu is kinda wrong for the soul fact that we dont have knowledge of madaras genjutsu ability his tsukuyomi should be mad strong if its not well then tough, it never said itatchis tsuk is better either, you could say itatchi is one of the best at genjutsu to our knowledge so far, and at what point did it show itatchi and madara fighting, for all we know he could be as fast or just a bit slower there is no actual proof of this if there is please do show me, And how so if itatchi cant beat madara then how will he stand a chance against hashi, im not over ratting hashi but if he beat madara with sharingan he must be pretty dam impressive!! they state hashirama is the strongest ninja in history, all rinnengans doing for madara now is perfect susano'o enhancement but we know he can use it for other things so i think now he can win

 

[Naruto the Toad Sage]

It takes dumb people to really think that Itachi would win.
The strongest Uchiha ever was beat by this man. Itachi fails in comparison to Madara. Hashirama makes him into fodder.

 

[Harry Balzac]

I love my nigga Itachi but Hashish takes this.

 

[ElectricClover]

In my opinion Hashirama is a match for both the Uchiha brothers. He beats Itachi here, I'm guessing fanboys are the only reason this thread has gone on six pages.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

It takes dumb people to really think that Itachi would win.
The strongest Uchiha ever was beat by this man. Itachi fails in comparison to Madara.

we have no idea what happened and we know mito was there. when we find out hashirama only won by a combination of prep and luck i will laugh. for all we know madara had some abilities that simply didnt work on hashi or hashirama has some kind of anti uchiha poison using madaras blood. and since when did beating EMS madara with no info as to how means your invincible and beats any uchiha he likes? when all of them have vastly different fighting styles?

PS is an EMS jutsu he had EMS vs Hashirama

yet he has his rinnegan when using PS on kages

the Flower World will put him to sleep before he gets burnt up

which is why madara and onoki were killed by flower world..wait...no...they are still here. geez seems like this trump card of his fails heavily. and if thats his only way of ever defeating itachi your in trouble because he needs to make seals, create a forest then wait for itachi to breathe. itachi sets him on fire a second after the fight starts then walks away laughing

So what if they were Hashirama's clones...your comparing a Human body to a pile of goop.

your assuming hashiramas invincible when hes done nothing

Go show me someone who's been one-shotted by Amaterasu

go show me madara being defeated by flower world

stop pulling stuff out of your ass..

so your forgetting itachis powers now? we KNOW he can turn enemy genjutsus back on them

...hashirama claps his hands together and that's it..no prep needed

nope. he forms that seal then waits for the roots to grow into a forest then waits for the flowers to come out then he waits for itachi to breath in the gas while hoping he wont see it coming with his sharingan and prior intel.

Its instant since Madara said it was instant....Byakugou is instant, and he said it's the same as what Hashirama did.

no, madara made absolutely no mention of instant. he siad he ddint know what byakugo was so its likely tsunades version is even more advanced and developed. i dont see any diamonds on hashiramas face

It takes time for Itachi to use Amaterasu

about...one second

It's not exactly difficult to think hmm, he's going to do something.

and its not exactly easy to avoid it when it does. only 4th raikage can and now minato/naruto

Is everyone forgetting who Hashirama's rival was? Madara.
Y'know, by far the strongest Uchiha there has been so far

based on what feats? show me the VOTE fight and ill decide that for myself. whats that? you cant?

Hashi could make a forest in an instant

scans of him performing this please. ill wait

just a tree trunk to cover him from Amaterasu, or just heal, which he didn't even need seals to do.

if he heals then itachi throws in another amaterasu. then a totsuka. its hard to focus on healing burns when your..oh right..BURNING. evne obito was screaming and it was barely touching him. it ONESHOTTED hachibi

Sharingan genjutsu is making eye contact, not looking at somebodies eyes.

ok then. what about itachis finger? will hashirama somehow know to avoid his finger?

Mokuton is an extremely versatile type of jutsu. He doesn't just have to grow trees towards Itachi he can make them chase him and impale him

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which has done this to a susano user...when again?

hashirama is in the list of people who completely embarrasses itachi in everyway possible...

by losing to him instantly and easily? show me some hashi feats that suggest he can defeat finger genjutsu/ammy/totsuka and other such instant attacks. which you need speed to do

Thats like saying sasuke would hold back against narutoo hes guna use most if not all his jutsu,

if sasukes weakened already in some way i cant see him doing that. and if hashirama beat madara quickly then theres no proof madara had the CHANCE to use all his arsenal. especially if hashirama set a trap and was prepared

And how so if itatchi cant beat madara then how will he stand a chance against hashi

because hashirama is nothing compared to madara, probably

 

[KidGamer65]

yet he has his rinnegan when using PS on kages

He has it on with his 2nd stage Susanoo here:

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Does that mean 2nd stage susanoo needs Rinnegan? No didn't think so. Besides This page clears everything up.

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He asks him why he didn't use his full power, Madara says that adults don't fight children seriously full pwer=Perfect Susanoo.

which is why madara and onoki were killed by flower world..wait...no...they are still here. geez seems like this trump card of his fails heavily. and if thats his only way of ever defeating itachi your in trouble because he needs to make seals, create a forest then wait for itachi to breathe. itachi sets him on fire a second after the fight starts then walks away laughing

More shit comparisons..the Kages flew to avoid it and it can't reach Madara on PS.

your assuming hashiramas invincible when hes done nothing

I'm using common sense, hashirama won't get burnt up instantly.

go show me madara being defeated by flower world

Are you slow? I never said that Madara was defeated by the Flower World..stop mentioning Madara cause Madara>>>>>Itachi.

so your forgetting itachis powers now? we KNOW he can turn enemy genjutsus back on them

Since when has he turned an enemy Genjutsu back on someone..scans please.

nope. he forms that seal then waits for the roots to grow into a forest then waits for the flowers to come out then he waits for itachi to breath in the gas while hoping he wont see it coming with his sharingan and prior intel.

Even if Itachi sees it coming he can't evade it.

no, madara made absolutely no mention of instant. he siad he ddint know what byakugo was so its likely tsunades version is even more advanced and developed. i dont see any diamonds on hashiramas face

Byakugou=Instant Regenration, Madara said Hashirama had healing w/o handseals that's instant.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

He has it on with his 2nd stage Susanoo here:

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Does that mean 2nd stage susanoo needs Rinnegan? No didn't think so. Besides This page clears everything up.

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He asks him why he didn't use his full power, Madara says that adults don't fight children seriously full pwer=Perfect Susanoo.

his full power is EMS + rinnegan + mokuton + everything else. onoki asked why he held back from using PS back then. not PS is full power. PS is a technique. how can that be his full power if its only one move in his arsenal? full power would be intending to kill as well as using everything at his disposal/all his chakra reserves. if PS isnt a rinnegan tech why didnt he just USE the EMS? because he can use EMS techs with rinnegan activated and rinnegan gives it even more power. thats why just EMS alone is inferior.

More shit comparisons..the Kages flew to avoid it and it can't reach Madara on PS.

then it cant reach itachi in susano. since you seem to think he cant just make another one on top of his first one

I never said that Madara was defeated by the Flower World..stop mentioning Madara cause Madara>>>>>Itachi.

you said itachi would be defeated by it when forgetting the other uchiha hashirama faced tanked it. meaning sharingan must be able to see it coming and avoid it. sasuke saw the C4 cloud and casually avoided it

m using common sense, hashirama won't get burnt up instantly.

maybe not but he will be in too much pain to do anything about it. if nagato wasnt an edo the fight ends with ammy. its that strong

Since when has he turned an enemy Genjutsu back on someone

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Even if Itachi sees it coming he can't evade it.

even if hashirama sees amaterasu coming he cant evade it. he burns to a crisp

Byakugou=Instant Regenration, Madara said Hashirama had healing w/o handseals that's instant.

byakugo = very very flawed and limited in terms of time. and useless if hes using it just for burns. if he is hes not focusing on anything else. leaving the door open for totsuka which was fast enough to surpass orochimarus reaction time. scans of hashiramas reaction times surpassing the likes of nagato and oro.

 

[KidGamer65]

his full power is EMS + rinnegan + mokuton + everything else. onoki asked why he held back from using PS back then. not PS is full power. PS is a technique. how can that be his full power if its only one move in his arsenal? full power would be intending to kill as well as using everything at his disposal/all his chakra reserves. if PS isnt a rinnegan tech why didnt he just USE the EMS? because he can use EMS techs with rinnegan activated and rinnegan gives it even more power. thats why just EMS alone is inferior.

Im talking about his full power BACK THEN.

as for the bold EMS + Rinnegan is better than EMS and PS is an EMS jutsu there is no reason to think otherwise.

then it cant reach itachi in susano. since you seem to think he cant just make another one on top of his first one

Now you're just spweing bullshit and you make no goddamn sense..

you said itachi would be defeated by it when forgetting the other uchiha hashirama faced tanked it. meaning sharingan must be able to see it coming and avoid it. sasuke saw the C4 cloud and casually avoided it

Again with the shit comparisons.... Sasuke had the tools to disable C4, Madara has PS so the pollen can't reac him.

maybe not but he will be in too much pain to do anything about it. if nagato wasnt an edo the fight ends with ammy. its that strong

Nagato wasn't wearing battle armor now was he, Nagato was wearing a simple cloak....and what do you mean he will be in too much pain to do anything about it? Flower Tree World would have already put him to sleep so Hashirama would win.

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even if hashirama sees amaterasu coming he cant evade it. he burns to a crisp

Not before Itachi falls asleep...

byakugo = very very flawed and limited in terms of time. and useless if hes using it just for burns. if he is hes not focusing on anything else. leaving the door open for totsuka which was fast enough to surpass orochimarus reaction time. scans of hashiramas reaction times surpassing the likes of nagato and oro.

considering Orochimaru was confined to his large snake...Totsuka stabbing him isn't really that great/

Same with Nagato who lacked mobility and couldn't even see through the dust cloud.

 

[Boskarta]

I don't get why every Itachi fanboy says Totsuka = win.

Who let's themselves get hit by a massive sword? It doesn't matter if you don't know it also seals you, you aren't going to stand there and wait for it to cut you up.
Whenever Hashirama and Madara fought, maps needed to be redrawn.
Show us an Itachi fight where that was the case(discounting vs Sasuke because it was Sasuke's Kirin that wrecked the place)

Itachi isn't getting genjutsu on Hashi, Madara wouldn't have bothered using it because there would be no point in trying.
Every ninja with a brain knows not to look at an Uchiha's eyes ever.


Perfect Susano'o is quite a bit stronger than anything Itachi has ever done, Hashirama not only survived fighting against it but he won.
There's clearly more to his power than making trees and healing.

Amaterasu isn't only dodgeable by 4th Raikage+, Sasuke's Amaterasu is.

Sasuke was able to run away from Itachi's Amaterasu, because he wasn't that good with it.
Sasuke literally ran away from it, it hit him, but he still ran away and it never got him for a while.

You have to be fast to dodge Sasuke's not Itachi's.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

I don't get why every Itachi fanboy says Totsuka = win.

Who let's themselves get hit by a massive sword? It doesn't matter if you don't know it also seals you, you aren't going to stand there and wait for it to cut you up.
Whenever Hashirama and Madara fought, maps needed to be redrawn.
Show us an Itachi fight where that was the case(discounting vs Sasuke because it was Sasuke's Kirin that wrecked the place)

Itachi isn't getting genjutsu on Hashi, Madara wouldn't have bothered using it because there would be no point in trying.
Every ninja with a brain knows not to look at an Uchiha's eyes ever.


Perfect Susano'o is quite a bit stronger than anything Itachi has ever done, Hashirama not only survived fighting against it but he won.
There's clearly more to his power than making trees and healing.

Amaterasu isn't only dodgeable by 4th Raikage+, Sasuke's Amaterasu is.

Sasuke was able to run away from Itachi's Amaterasu, because he wasn't that good with it.
Sasuke literally ran away from it, it hit him, but he still ran away and it never got him for a while.

You have to be fast to dodge Sasuke's not Itachi's.

Orochimaru and Nagato ring any bells?

 

[Boskarta]

Orochimaru wasn't exactly going to be fast connected to a big snake monster was he?

And Nagato was a completely BS kill. Plus pretty sure Kabuto was controlling him at that point.
That part makes no sense really the Rinnegan has vision similar to the Byakugan there's no way he wouldn't have seen it coming.


Still, he wouldn't be hitting Hashirama with it.
In an instant Perfect Susano'o cut up mountains, but Hashi survived fighting it.
Meaning he's clearly fast enough to do so or has some kind of giant Mokuton monster thing he makes.

He's also seen with big scrolls a lot of the time, who knows what they do.

 

[Ame no kage]

Sigh* does the title kage hold no value to a ninja these days.

itachi to date is one of my favorite uchiha in naruto. His abilities as a ninja far exceeds all his uchiha brothers before him. Yes his capabilities with his MS was highly praised due to his abilities to control and utilize them in such a short time should be looked as something to marvel upon....but sadly i highly doubt its worthy to marvel him against hashi. I would think when madara called his fight with the current kages trivial compared his fight with hashi would suggest the level of his power, also kabutos past comment about hashis prowess stating there are no other living ninjas on his level to date. to those comparing madara with itachi has got to be mad. Hashi is a senju, well known for knowledge of thousands of jutsu's they know and dont know, i would suggest his experience with the uchiha would lead to some sort of deterrent to their well known.dojutsu abilities.... would even be.bold.to suggest that's the very reason why the most powerful uchiha in his time or even ever madara wasn't able to utilize tsukyomi or any genjutsu on hashi. And please, dont use the excuse he never used genjutsu, he's the renowned madara who fort hashi with his EMS along with the 9tails. im sure we can all agree he could be more then capable of using genjutsus such as tsukyomi. im not even going to go in to complete details with the level of ninja prowess these two have because one outweighs another 10 fold. so ill leave it at that. i dont go on ninjas abilities, combat experience and past references far exceed jutsu spam.

Regards,
Ame~

 

[Joki]

because hashirama is nothing compared to madara, probably

When Madara himself massively disagrees?

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Anyone who's actually taking you seriously at this point should just stop there. I'm never surprised though.

Since you never respond to posts that destroy your arguments I don't expect any answer as usual, but why hasn't your sig changed to "anti Hashirama because I can't stand the fact he's a strong Naruto character for an unknown reason and I will never admit he wins any match no matter how extremely obvious"? Itachi>Hashirama? Really?

I'm not even saying "are you retarded" any more, it's just proven fact by now. When Hashirama gets flashback time you'll either stop posting or say shit like "no man only an idiot would believe that stuff you guys thought I was serious" because I really hope you're not