Itachi vs Hashirama

Who wins??

  • Itachi wins

    Votes: 24 31.6%
  • Draw

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  • Hashirama wins

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totally different scale, hashirama wins easily, "if it's one on one run
so he will somehow know not to look in itachis eyes just because he fought madara whos only ever been shown using one fairly basic illusion so far? nothing suggests he can keep not looking directly at an uchiha for a whole fight.

Why should I believe that someone who took his DNA from him can use Mokuton better than him, even though EVERYONE who has had Hashirama's DNA, has used it on a lesser scale than him
your merely assuming. maybe senju+ uchiha is superior to senju alone. actually EVERYONE has said this. senju + uchiha > practically anything judging by how little obito had. obito later confirmed it. senju + uchiha = sage of six paths. imagine madara if he truly wanted to annhilate kages as fast as possible. its incomprehensible.

For every1 saying just because hashirama beat madara doesnt mean he can beat itachi
i think you'll find hashirama has no feats.

Madara said and i quote "Ninja these days are weaker than my generation"
no he didnt. did he meet each and every ninja still alive and watch their respective high level battles? no

Madara admits hes better so what can itatchi really do thats on parr with hashirama
madara never said that. he said hashirama is capable of stopping him. that could only mean he has some hax sealing jutsu. guess what? so does itachi. hashi has genjutsu. itachis is better. hashirama has pollen. itachi has mindrape. hashirama has little to no speed feats or strength feats or ANYTHING feats. itachi is pretty damn beast with impossible hand seal speed, ability to hang with KM naruto in taijutsu, and amaterasu
 

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so he will somehow know not to look in itachis eyes just because he fought madara whos only ever been shown using one fairly basic illusion so far? nothing suggests he can keep not looking directly at an uchiha for a whole fight.

His Mokuton's size allows him to fight Itachi from long range..Itachi won't have time to make eye contact if he is busy trying to evade Hashirama's wood.

your merely assuming. maybe senju+ uchiha is superior to senju alone. actually EVERYONE has said this. senju + uchiha > practically anything judging by how little obito had. obito later confirmed it. senju + uchiha = sage of six paths. imagine madara if he truly wanted to annhilate kages as fast as possible. its incomprehensible.

That doesn't mean his Mokuton will be better than Hashirama's.
And you still didn't tell me how Itachi counters the Flower Tree World.
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His Mokuton's size allows him to fight Itachi from long range..Itachi won't have time to make eye contact if he is busy trying to evade Hashirama's wood.
im sure looking at someone is faster than making a shit load of hand seals then growing alot of wood out of the ground. in fact he doesnt need eye contact. merely looking at anywhere on hashis body means he can fry him with an ammy

And you still didn't tell me how Itachi counters the Flower Tree World.
you still didnt tell me how hashi avoids the ammy/totsuka combo with literally no speed feats to suggest he could. as i said looking at someone and burning them = fukload faster than a lot of hand seals/growing wood out of the ground/funneling chakra into them/commanding them to release the pollen
 
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im sure looking at someone is faster than making a shit load of hand seals then growing alot of wood out of the ground. in fact he doesnt need eye contact. merely looking at anywhere on hashis body means he can fry him with an ammy

you still didnt tell me how hashi avoids the ammy/totsuka combo with literally no speed feats to suggest he could. as i said looking at someone and burning them = fukload faster than a lot of hand seals/growing wood out of the ground/funneling chakra into them/commanding them to release the pollen

Nobody needs speed feats when he can make multiple wood clones that were only distinguishable by Madara's EMS
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How can Itachi tell the difference without EMS?
He can not and will never be fast enough with the totsuka or amatarasu (its gay when you say ammy).
And Hashirama can move through roots in the ground. Due to it being a mokuton technique. He can easily dodge it consideing he only needs to be as fast as Sasuke was here.
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And again He can not distinguish clone nor will he even be close enough to Hashirama to hit him with tootsuka when Hashirama uses Nativity.

And Itachi has no counter for the flower world. Itachi looses low diff.
 

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im sure looking at someone is faster than making a shit load of hand seals then growing alot of wood out of the ground. in fact he doesnt need eye contact. merely looking at anywhere on hashis body means he can fry him with an ammy

you still didnt tell me how hashi avoids the ammy/totsuka combo with literally no speed feats to suggest he could. as i said looking at someone and burning them = fukload faster than a lot of hand seals/growing wood out of the ground/funneling chakra into them/commanding them to release the pollen

Itachi has to make eye contact..which will be harder when there is distance and Hashirama can simply look away from him.

Hashirama can simply make a Mokuton bunshin to help him fight Itachi..making this even easier than it already is.

Itachi will fall before Hashirama does....he has instant regeneration w/o handseals so forget about Amaterasu taking him out before the Flower World puts him to sleep.
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How is Itachi going to even see him through all those trees..

With this you have no counter to the Flower Tree World.
 

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So people are still posting as if 20 carbon copies of Itachi could lift 1 finger before being utterly annihilated by the godly Hashirama. Loooool
 

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Before ANY fool says yata mirror do you really think hashi is dumb enough to keep attacking from the front, ok lets say itatchi gets him in genjutsu...what are the chances he WONT reverse it, if he can manage madaras sharingans itatchi's is light work
 

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if hashirama kicked madara ass along with his pathetic EMS and the strongest biju the kyubi in the same time

he will rape and destroy itachi in few seconds
 

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if hashirama kicked madara ass along with his pathetic EMS and the strongest biju the kyubi in the same time
he didnt. he almost died and got some of his power stolen. mito defeated kyuubi. it was a long term win for madara


if hashirama kicked madara ass
we have no idea what happened in that fight. maybe he was that generation's konan and was specifically tailored to counter madara

How is Itachi going to even see him through all those trees..

With this you have no counter to the Flower Tree World.
how is hashirama supposed to have feats that madara performed? this would be like giving sasuke feats to fugaku. theres no reason for it. show me HASHIRAMA doing this and ill believe he can do that that quickly.

which will be harder when there is distance
where in the OP did it say the specific distance?

Hashirama can simply make a Mokuton bunshin to help him fight Itachi
yeah and itachi has EXPLODING bunshins. do you really think this is itachis first time fighting a clone user?

Nobody needs speed feats
wrong.

How can Itachi tell the difference without EMS?
how can anyone tell apart a clone from the original? even neji couldnt tell where real naruto was as naruto evenly split his chakra. obviously mokubunshins dont evenly split the chakra

And Hashirama can move through roots in the ground. Due to it being a mokuton technique.
developed by one of his clones 100 years after his death due to being created in the juubi shell by madara. hashirama couldnt do that.

He can not and will never be fast enough with the totsuka or amatarasu (its gay when you say ammy).
they are two of the fastest attacks in the series. so far only one man has ever avoided ammy. and thats 4th raikage. only person faster than HIM is minato. if hashi was famous for his speed madara would have mentioned it.

He can easily dodge it consideing he only needs to be as fast as Sasuke was here
sigh...even me, an itachi hater, knew he wasnt trying to hit sasuke

And again He can not distinguish clone nor will he even be close enough to Hashirama to hit him with tootsuka when Hashirama uses Nativity.
ok. then how can hashirama distinguish itachis clones? dont act like hes gonna be the only one using it. nativity barely made several branches after two pages and a bunch of hand seals vs hiruzen


Itachi will fall before Hashirama does....he has instant regeneration w/o handseals so forget about Amaterasu taking him out before the Flower World puts him to sleep
the only panel of his fight with madara showed hashirama absolutely FUKED UP. he lost an eye and was bleeding heavily. so when again did he show "instant" regeneration? oh right never. your attributing power to someone that hes never demonstrated. as i said he has no speed feats even if mokuton looked kind of fast vs hiruzen, but hiruzen wasnt known for his speed either. and had enough time to think "oh wow this must be mokuton". itachi need only think "amaterasu to the fukin face" and hashiramas done. so what if he heals? the flames wont go out. and that will enable enough time for totsuka sword.
 
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he didnt. he almost died and got some of his power stolen. mito defeated kyuubi. it was a long term win for madara


we have no idea what happened in that fight. maybe he was that generation's konan and was specifically tailored to counter madara

how is hashirama supposed to have feats that madara performed? this would be like giving sasuke feats to fugaku. theres no reason for it. show me HASHIRAMA doing this and ill believe he can do that that quickly.

where in the OP did it say the specific distance?

yeah and itachi has EXPLODING bunshins. do you really think this is itachis first time fighting a clone user?

wrong.

how can anyone tell apart a clone from the original? even neji couldnt tell where real naruto was as naruto evenly split his chakra. obviously mokubunshins dont evenly split the chakra

developed by one of his clones 100 years after his death due to being created in the juubi shell by madara. hashirama couldnt do that.

they are two of the fastest attacks in the series. so far only one man has ever avoided ammy. and thats 4th raikage. only person faster than HIM is minato. if hashi was famous for his speed madara would have mentioned it.

sigh...even me, an itachi hater, knew he wasnt trying to hit sasuke

ok. then how can hashirama distinguish itachis clones? dont act like hes gonna be the only one using it. nativity barely made several branches after two pages and a bunch of hand seals vs hiruzen


the only panel of his fight with madara showed hashirama absolutely FUKED UP. he lost an eye and was bleeding heavily. so when again did he show "instant" regeneration? oh right never. your attributing power to someone that hes never demonstrated. as i said he has no speed feats even if mokuton looked kind of fast vs hiruzen, but hiruzen wasnt known for his speed either. and had enough time to think "oh wow this must be mokuton". itachi need only think "amaterasu to the fukin face" and hashiramas done. so what if he heals? the flames wont go out. and that will enable enough time for totsuka sword.

Where did it say that Mito defeated kyuubi? You are making stuff up so stop bullshitting.

Everything Madara does is just him imitating Hashirama's techniques (he said Hashirama's clones) (Tsunade said Hashirama's flower world) So every thing Madara does with mokuton is just a pale imitation of the real thing considering he is just now using it and is only able to do it well enough due to his Sharingan copy abilities.

Itachi was trying to hit Sasuke considering he did.

Hashirama's clones>everyone else's (maybe except Naruto's)
Itachi's clones are shit.
And Hashirama's clones can not be distinguished meaning Itachi could be fighting a Hashirama clone for an hour while Hashirama simply sits and wait for his chakra to drain.

Zetsu is a pure mokuton user and as Madara said "In other words these androids are basically clones of Hashirama, Even though their quality is LOW"

He said clone not variation. Therefore Hashirama contains all abilities of Zetsu.

He does not need to even worry about Itachi clones considering that they will just drain Itachi of his chakra and will be fodder since they poof after only one hit. Unlike wood clones which are far more durable and do not just poof.

Again anybody can dodge Amatarasu and how will Itachi know he is even looking at the right one? And if he is close enough to see Hashirama and hit him before he makes a wall or move then Bringer of darkness is an easy win. or Nativity while Itachi does this.

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Hashirama knows that any kind of eye technique is deadly considering he fought the grand master of it.
He can easily make a wood wall before it is even sent towards him.

Hashirama wins low diff.
 

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Where did it say that Mito defeated kyuubi? You are making stuff up
the only known way to defeat it is to seal it correct?

erything Madara does is just him imitating Hashirama's techniques (he said Hashirama's clones) (Tsunade said Hashirama's flower world
and making them better and stronger than when hashi used them. thats what happens when you keep passing on your techniques. someones bound to improve them
considering he is just now using it
wrong. he got mokuton after their VOTE fight and has had it ever since then

Hashirama's clones>everyone else's (maybe except Naruto's)
Itachi's clones are shit.
based on which feats? he himself lacks enough feats to be considered strong so strong people beat him

Itachi was trying to hit Sasuke considering he did.
ok he wasnt trying to KILL him then. sasukes version instantly set whatever he looked at on fire. itachi burned through jiraiyas toad stomach

And Hashirama's clones can not be distinguished meaning Itachi could be fighting a Hashirama clone for an hour while Hashirama simply sits and wait for his chakra to drain.
or he burns the clone to a crisp in less than a second and moves on. as i said, you can not tell your fighting a clone AS MOST SHINOBI HAVE DONE and still defeat it instantly. clones are only ever used to buy time and let the real hashirama/naruto hide and prepare a strategy. clones are a waste of chakra unless you use them to their maximum effect. hashirama has no intelligence feats to suggest he can match wits with itachi anyway

Hashirama contains all abilities of Zetsu.
no he doesnt. until he shows otherwise

Zetsu is a pure mokuton user
zetsu shows shit hashi never did. if he could phase in the ground and move through it then how was he ever hit by anything? why did he get all bloodied and injured vs madara?

He said clone not variation. Therefore Hashirama contains all abilities of Zetsu.
no reason why obito cant improve on them. also madara said in this chappie they have his will/chakra as well and were created from the juubis shell using a creation tech. so zetsu is hashirama AND madara AND juubi

Again anybody can dodge Amatarasu
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA. wrong. its one of the fastest attacks in the series and repeatedly called the strongest most ultimate offensive technique possessed by uchihas. kabuto called it also a strong defence when you set your sights on the ground around you, forming a ring of fire.

Hashirama knows that any kind of eye technique is deadly considering he fought the grand master of it.
he fought sasuke? and what makes you think a young madara can compare to itachi at the same age (yes post VOTE madara looked only in his early 20s in 606)? we know just about nothing about madaras level back then. and he was as feared for his genjutsu as itachi is now. first thing they thought they should counter was madaras genjutsus. so obviously hashi had some defence against it no one else had. doesnt make him better than all uchihas.

e can easily make a wood wall before it is even sent towards him.
show me some speed and reaction feats from hashirama suggesting he could do this please

and hit him before he makes a wall or move then Bringer of darkness is an easy win. or Nativity while Itachi does this.
again. looking at someone is faster than making a bunch of seals and making wood grow from the ground or from your hands.

He does not need to even worry about Itachi clones considering that they will just drain Itachi of his chakra and will be fodder since they poof after only one hit.
they explode on command. and no they disperse after being hit. so when hashi has a facefull of crows BAM. ammy to the face. so typical of hashirama fanboys to downplay anyone not named madara when hashirama hasnt done anything
 
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how is hashirama supposed to have feats that madara performed? this would be like giving sasuke feats to fugaku. theres no reason for it. show me HASHIRAMA doing this and ill believe he can do that that quickly.
More fail comparisons? Fugaku doesn't have the same exact powers as Fugaku genius so no that is nothing like what i'm saying....Hashirama has the feats Madara performed cause they are HIS Jutsu, get that through your head.

where in the OP did it say the specific distance?
He can use Mokuton to make distance.

yeah and itachi has EXPLODING bunshins. do you really think this is itachis first time fighting a clone user?
Mokuton Bunshins>Any other type of Bunshins.



the only panel of his fight with madara showed hashirama absolutely FUKED UP. he lost an eye and was bleeding heavily. so when again did he show "instant" regeneration? oh right never. your attributing power to someone that hes never demonstrated. as i said he has no speed feats even if mokuton looked kind of fast vs hiruzen, but hiruzen wasnt known for his speed either. and had enough time to think "oh wow this must be mokuton". itachi need only think "amaterasu to the fukin face" and hashiramas done. so what if he heals? the flames wont go out. and that will enable enough time for totsuka sword.

Madara said he had instant regeneration without handseals.
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He isn't going to be able to see Hashirama through this.
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So Amaterasu is out of the question..

You must not have read my post, just like you don't read the manga..if he uses the Flower World even if he gets hit with Amaterasu (which he won't) Itachi will still fall asleep meaning he loses.

Hashirama lasts longer because his auto healing allows him to stay standing longer than others would..
 

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Why was this thread revived, I thought if a thread is 5 month old you're not allowed to revive it.. IZUNA
 
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Itachi mostly comes with new jutsu's in his fights:

Sasuke part1-Tskyoumi
Sasuke part2- Amertasu,Susanoo,Transcription Seal Amertasu
Kureani-Demonic Illusion Mirror Heaven and Earth change
Kakashi- Water Release Water Fang Bullet
Orochimaru-Demonic Illusion Shackling Stakes Technique
Naruto & Killer B-Fire Release Pheonix Sage Flower Nail Crimson
Naruto- Ephermal,Dusk Crow Genjutsu
Kabuto-Izanami

So what makes you think he cant do the same to Hashirama
 

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Hashirama could just use Mokuton: Advent of a world of flowering trees on Itachi which would knock Itachi out as soon as he inhales it and also Wood Release Secret Technique: Nativity of a World of Trees which would easily catch Itachi and strangle him to death
 

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Itachi mostly comes with new jutsu's in his fights:

Sasuke part1-Tskyoumi
Sasuke part2- Amertasu,Susanoo,Transcription Seal Amertasu
Kureani-Demonic Illusion Mirror Heaven and Earth change
Kakashi- Water Release Water Fang Bullet
Orochimaru-Demonic Illusion Shackling Stakes Technique
Naruto & Killer B-Fire Release Pheonix Sage Flower Nail Crimson
Naruto- Ephermal,Dusk Crow Genjutsu
Kabuto-Izanami

So what makes you think he cant do the same to Hashirama

Tell us..what new jutsu will he use? Cause this is a pretty horrible argument to use.

Well...considering you think Itachi can beat Madara w/Rinnegan and Mokuton, this doesn't surprise me.
 

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Tell us..what new jutsu will he use? Cause this is a pretty horrible argument to use.

Well...considering you think Itachi can beat Madara w/Rinnegan and Mokuton, this doesn't surprise me.

hes a fanboy dont worry hes fighting a loosing battle by coming up with the SAME counters, if its not yata mirror its tousuka if its not that is the actual susano or amaterasu, hes never come up with a valid counter for the appropriate scenarios
 

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hes a fanboy dont worry hes fighting a loosing battle by coming up with the SAME counters, if its not yata mirror its tousuka if its not that is the actual susano or amaterasu, hes never come up with a valid counter for the appropriate scenarios

Exactly! He did this in the other thread....though I should have figured that he is a fanboy.
 

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Exactly! He did this in the other thread....though I should have figured that he is a fanboy.

Hmmm do what i do.. put him in his place when he talks bs i already know you use facts continue to do so
 
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