Itachi: among top 5 or not

[24 12 11 to troll]

That's more like it. Though I think that creating the flames is much more damaging than keeping them at some place. Sasuke's right eye for example didn't start bleeding when he used it to maipulate Amaterasu.

Anyway, with that being said you actually agreed with me. A normal Amaterasu only takes a second. Once it hits its target it burns on itself, so 'long' shots are not necessary. It comes, it hits, it burns - like that. Itachi just used a long one to reach Sasuke. So he used Amaterasu five times, one time being unnormally long.

1 problem about your amaterasu discussion ... it doesnt make much difference it wont effect: rikudo sennin , tobi , madara, jiraiya(HE SEALS IT AWAY) , sasuke , naruto , 3rd raikage( because itachi cant use sheild of black flames) , 4th raikage , bee , minato , 2nd tsuchikage , nagato etc. hes still nowhere near and for shinobi of my list it can effect .... it wont do much

 

[FloriGlori]

1 problem about your amaterasu discussion ... it doesnt make much difference it wont effect: rikudo sennin , tobi , madara, jiraiya(HE SEALS IT AWAY) , sasuke , naruto , 3rd raikage( because itachi cant use sheild of black flames) , 4th raikage , bee , minato , 2nd tsuchikage , nagato etc. hes still nowhere near and for shinobi of my list it can effect .... it wont do much

..and for that reason he can resort to his superior Susanoo, Genjutsu, tricks and Bunshin or Tsukuyomi.

I'll just ignore that you listed Jiraiya, Bee and Muu, since I already know that discussing with makes no sense. Isn't that right, my dear?

 

[Raito]

On long range Amaterasu is quite ineffictive cause its difficult to aim with.

Not at all. Amaterasu arises directly in Itachis point of view. If he looks at the flying up sphere, he hits it direct. + The gravitation of the sphere will pull all attacks straight to itself.

Ten seconds are enough for the sphere to rise in a high level.

Not really. The sphere took already 5-10 seconds to reach the sky, then the black sphere's gravitation attracts slowly everything in the surrounding area. During Itachi, Naruto and Bee flew straight to Chibaku Tensei, Itachi had the time to analyze the situation and created a plan. There Bee had the time to joking and transform himself into the Hachibi. Chibaku Tensei isn't that fast.

Shinra Tensei. (Haha thats the best. It doesnt help you against attacks that are just smashing you away. The damage if you hit the ground is still the smae, cause instead of hitting the ground youre hitting your own susanoo which is quite dure.

That makes no sense. If this were so, Sasuke would have a lot of broken bones or would be even death.

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Is this pure power a comparison to Shinra Tensei? Show me a Ninja who got crushed by Shinra Tensei.

50 meters is quite long and enough time for Nagato to block any try of using Amaterasu. (He could use shinra tensei again to repell it, since his intervall is shorter than Tendos/ he can spam missles to keep Itachi busy.

First, how a Shinra Tensei can push you off over 50 meters? That's unrealistic. Second, Naruto said Nagato is stronger and faster than his paths, that doesn't mean his interval is shorter. A minimum cooldown is the side-effect of Shinra Tensei.

Genjutsu: Tell me where Itachi couldve used Genjutsu.

Already in the beginning of the battle, like Itachi does it always to finish up Ninjas like Kakashi, Deidara and Orochimaru.

 

[KazekageDaichi]

Top 10,not 5.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

shinra tensei powned gama bunta , hiro , and ken easily ....

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Top 10,not 5.

not even that

 

[Raito]

The frogs broke their bones just because their own mass.
If an elephant gonna fall with his mass from a great height, he will broke all his bones.
The same principle with the frogs, which are much bigger and heavier.

 

[Zato]

This is stupid. Remember when everyone said that Naruto and Bee was gonna stomp Nagato and Itachi and the opposite happened? This is because people were going off of hype and not really seeing the strategic side of the battle. If you did then you would have easily seen that if it wasn't for that crow Itachi put in Naruto to save Sasuke then both him and Bee would be captured right now. People need to stop saying how a battle would go with certain S class ninjas in this series because there is no real way we can tell how a fight can actually go until they actually happen.

For an example. How the hell did Itachi know about Nagato's paths sharing vision and knew to throw kunai at their eyes to stop it? On the other hand he quickly analyzed how to defeat the chibaku tensei after seeing it once. Obviously he has a gift for analyzing the battle field at a very fast rate. People really need to stop down playing Itachi's abilities. I'm not saying hes the best or anything but its obvious why Tobi feared him.

 

[Turson]

Itachi in TOP5? Nope, even though hes my favorite character from manga, guys like Madara, Hashirama, Tobi, EMS Sasuke, current Naruto or Nagatos Six Paths of Pain are stronger than him.

The frogs broke their bones just because their own mass.
If an elephant gonna fall with his mass from a great height, he will broke all his bones.
The same principle with the frogs, which are much bigger and heavier.

Look, if Shinra Tensei was able to push frog that was able to hold down Kyuubi with its mass like some piece of trash the same would happen to Susanoo.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Itachi in TOP5? Nope, even though hes my favorite character from manga, guys like Madara, Hashirama, Tobi, EMS Sasuke, current Naruto or Nagatos Six Paths of Pain are stronger than him.


Look, if Shinra Tensei was able to push frog that was able to hold down Kyuubi with its mass like some piece of trash the same would happen to Susanoo.

dude u have a brain !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! finally some1 takes my side

 

[Raito]

[...]This is because people were going off of hype and not really seeing the strategic side of the battle.

For an example. How the hell did Itachi know about Nagato's paths sharing vision and knew to throw kunai at their eyes to stop it? On the other hand he quickly analyzed how to defeat the chibaku tensei after seeing it once. Obviously he has a gift for analyzing the battle field at a very fast rate. People really need to stop down playing Itachi's abilities. I'm not saying hes the best or anything but its obvious why Tobi feared him.

I'm totally agree with you, especially in the first part. But ppl don't listen when we're talking about Itachis mastermind and his strategics. They fixed in the idea that Itachi hasn't a chance, can't use Genjutsus against Nagato and makes him dumber than he is.

Itachi in TOP5? Nope, even though hes my favorite character from manga, guys like Madara, Hashirama, Tobi, EMS Sasuke, current Naruto or Nagatos Six Paths of Pain are stronger than him.


Look, if Shinra Tensei was able to push frog that was able to hold down Kyuubi with its mass like some piece of trash the same would happen to Susanoo.

Danzous summon is about ten times bigger than Susanoo. The combination of it's extensive pull and Danzous fuuton could damage the incomplete Susanoo but not even move it from its place.

I'm tired of to explain you every think because you don't understand anything.

 

[Turson]

Danzous summon is about ten times bigger than Susanoo. The combination of it's extensive pull and Danzous fuuton could damage the incomplete Susanoo but not even move it from its place.

You are comparing that to Shinra Tensei? Thats ridiculous.

 

[Might Who]

Raito is the biggest fanboy ever!

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

I'm totally agree with you, especially in the first part. But ppl don't listen when we're talking about Itachis mastermind and his strategics. They fixed in the idea that Itachi hasn't a chance, can't use Genjutsus against Nagato and makes him dumber than he is.



Danzous summon is about ten times bigger than Susanoo. The combination of it's extensive pull and Danzous fuuton could damage the incomplete Susanoo but not even move it from its place.

I'm tired of to explain you every think because you don't understand anything.

he was talking about potentially the strongest non rinnegan summon... gamabunta and gamaken and gamahiro nagato owned em using hardley anychakra , they went flying severel hundred metres and upwards out of the crater , even with the counterweight of 30kmph sprinting super toads that weigh like 30 tons..

 

[Raito]

I compare Raikage As full power Raiga Bomu in his Raiton armour with Shinra Tensei, which was cushioned by the thorax of Sasukes Susanoo. According to Darui Sasuke was the first one who survived this attack.

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Don't overrate Shinra Tensei, he used it a lot of times without to knock out his opponents, see Kakashi and Naruto.

 

[Might Who]

Naruto can beat Pain not Itachi...... Match up is everything, Naruto had the charka to fight Pain while Itachi do not.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Naruto can beat Pain not Itachi...... Match up is everything, Naruto had the charka to fight Pain while Itachi do not.

very true , but using logic i believe my list has no problems as of yet until kishi or date come along ... that dude is comparing raiga bomb with shinra tensei ... raiga bomb is an s class ninjutsu .... shinra tensei is a god like ninjutsu.... he sais dont overrate shinra tensei when it could tank 3 toad super summons , so it certainly tanks susanoo

 

[Turson]

he sais dont overrate shinra tensei when it could tank 3 toad super summons , so it certainly tanks susanoo

Susanoo would be untouched, but pushed long way back. It surely would be very truoblesome for Itachi.

 

[Might Who]

very true , but using logic i believe my list has no problems as of yet until kishi or date come along ... that dude is comparing raiga bomb with shinra tensei ... raiga bomb is an s class ninjutsu .... shinra tensei is a god like ninjutsu.... he sais dont overrate shinra tensei when it could tank 3 toad super summons , so it certainly tanks susanoo

Agree with you 100 percent. + rep

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Susanoo would be untouched, but pushed long way back. It surely would be very truoblesome for Itachi.

itachi would get knocked over under his feet.... and therefore injured lol susanoo floats it cant fall over but i do believe that a shinra tensei like pain used vs konoha would kill itachi and his susanoo