Itachi: among top 5 or not

[Itachilover94]

Tobi, Madara.. Kabuto only as long as he can use his precious Edo Tensei.. Itachi and Nagato. Yes, he's in definitely in the top five of 'normal' beings, which means that I'm excluding guys like Rikudo or Shisui, whose Genjutsu can be used only twice in a decade.

I think I don't have to tell you how strong Itachi is. But just in case.. Becoming Anbu leader at the age of 13 is already proof of his talent. He's a genius in nearly every aspect and can defeat enemies like Deidara and Orochimaru (the latter even before the actual plot of Naruto started) with mere Genjutsu. His speed is incredible too, not even Kakashi, who makes excellent use out of his Sharingan, was able to see his techniques coming. His usage with weapons is probably the best we know yet, on top of that his Susanoo is in possession of Yata no Kagami and Totsuka no Tsurugi, a shield that's said to deflect any attack and can nullify every elemental attack, and a huge sword that can seal everything it pierces. Don't get me started on Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu. The very fact that Tobi was afraid to attack Konoha while Itachi was alive is already speaking volumes. His only weakness seems to be his low stamina, which could be a result from his illness.

Though his stamina is not even that bad. While he was about to die, he did following things:

• 2 x Gokakyu no Jutsu
• 1 x Tuskuyomi
• 1 x Tsukuyomi got broken, which took quite a toll on him
• 1 x His leg got hit by a huge blade
• 5 x Amaterasu, the last one being a considerably long one
• 1 x He extinguished Amaterasu, which is pretty damaging, too - proof is Sasuke
• 10 minutes (roughly) of Susanoo, at least five of them at its final stage
• Transfering Amaterasu to Sasuke

All those things are nothing but facts. So yes, Itachi is pretty incredible.

If I could rep you again I so would rep you 5000 times xd

 

[FloriGlori]

If I could rep you again I so would rep you 5000 times xd

Why, thank you.

 

[DivineIllusion]

It sounded as though as you were saying Itachi was a stamina pussy...

I vehemently agree that Nagato has superior chakra and all,but Itachi wouldn't die from five minutes in Susano'o​

He would: Five minutes is like eternalty in battle!
Even Sasuke doesnt use Susanoo for five minutes.
A minute is still very much and itachi didnt use it for very long.

And yes, compared to the other highlevelninjas he is a stamina"*****"
What makes his strenght even more respectable.

 

[Raito]

I couldn't say it better .

I think in a Battle of Sasuke against Itachi Sasuke would win against his higher stamina and higher eye form. But apart from this fight Itachi is smarter, more experienced and can use stronger Genjutsus. But he's definitely in the top 5.

After FloriGloris high-class post only foolish people can believe in Pain.

 

[DivineIllusion]

Tobi, Madara.. Kabuto only as long as he can use his precious Edo Tensei.. Itachi and Nagato. Yes, he's in definitely in the top five of 'normal' beings, which means that I'm excluding guys like Rikudo or Shisui, whose Genjutsu can be used only twice in a decade.

I think I don't have to tell you how strong Itachi is. But just in case.. Becoming Anbu leader at the age of 13 is already proof of his talent. He's a genius in nearly every aspect and can defeat enemies like Deidara and Orochimaru (the latter even before the actual plot of Naruto started) with mere Genjutsu. His speed is incredible too, not even Kakashi, who makes excellent use out of his Sharingan, was able to see his techniques coming. His usage with weapons is probably the best we know yet, on top of that his Susanoo is in possession of Yata no Kagami and Totsuka no Tsurugi, a shield that's said to deflect any attack and can nullify every elemental attack, and a huge sword that can seal everything it pierces. Don't get me started on Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu. The very fact that Tobi was afraid to attack Konoha while Itachi was alive is already speaking volumes. His only weakness seems to be his low stamina, which could be a result from his illness.

Though his stamina is not even that bad. While he was about to die, he did following things:

• 2 x Gokakyu no Jutsu
• 1 x Tuskuyomi
• 1 x Tsukuyomi got broken, which took quite a toll on him
• 1 x His leg got hit by a huge blade
• 5 x Amaterasu, the last one being a considerably long one
• 1 x He extinguished Amaterasu, which is pretty damaging, too - proof is Sasuke
• 10 minutes (roughly) of Susanoo, at least five of them at its final stage
• Transfering Amaterasu to Sasuke

All those things are nothing but facts. So yes, Itachi is pretty incredible.

??? Where did he do 2 tsukuyomis?
5 times Amaterasu when?
10 minutes? The whole battle was not longer than ten minutes (after genjutsu ended)
Most battles dont last longer than a few minutes. THATS FACT.
It just seems longer, cause of all those flashbacks, slowmo and some other videoeffects.

Maybe he did al this during the whole narutoplot, but not in one battle.

 

[Might Who]

Itachi fanboys GTFO this thread is only for people with a brain.

 

[Raito]

Itachi fanboys GTFO this thread is only for people with a brain.

Wonderful <3.
After this post it's obvious that you're a fool.
End of discussion :*

 

[DivineIllusion]

Why did nobody conter my scenario? Come on Raito, your Itachi is genius enough to annihilate Chubaku easily isnt he?

 

[Itachilover94]

Itachi fanboys GTFO this thread is only for people with a brain.

*gasp* i'm hurt

 

[Raito]

Show me your scenario, I haven't seen it.

 

[DivineIllusion]

Wonderful <3.
After this post it's obvious that you're a fool.
End of discussion :*

But sometimes it really seems that faanboism deactivates brain. In this case its Itachi, in other cases its Minato, Sasuke or Nagato.

 

[DivineIllusion]

Show me your scenario, I haven't seen it.

Look at the last two or three pages. It is there.

 

[Raito]

Look at my posts, look at FloriGloris WONDERFUL post, then you will realize who hasn't a brain.
Might Who is the best example.

 

[DivineIllusion]

Nope, Kakashi reaches his limit fast when he uses Kamui, which needs up much more chakra, because he is a nonuchiha using MS.
Stamina and chakra are nearly the same, high chakra=high stamina
Itachis stamina is his weakspot. Thats why he uses Genjutsus first, cause most genjutsus dont need up much chakra.
Beeing an uchiha is not=strong chakra (being Senju/Uzumaki=strong chakra)

Im Nagato fan, but also Itachi, Kakashi, Kyuubi, Killerbee, Mei Terumii, Rock Lee and Guy fan.

Its just that Itachi cant beat Nagato. You want to know?

Battle begins.
1: Nagato uses shinra Tensei, Itachi is blown away for example 50 metres.
2: Nagato summons his army of monsters
Itachi: askes himself what kind of power that was. He decides to test Nagato
3: Monsters are attacking Itachi.
3.1 Amaterasu (Itachi burns the summonings) or
3.2 Susanoo finishes the summonings off (exception the chameleon cause ts invisible, even to Rinnegan)
4. While Itachi burns the summons or fights them, Nagato uses chibaku Tensei. Sphere is flying into the sky.
5. Itachi is needs a few moments to notice the sphere, he doesnt know, what this is going to be (the summonings are dieing now)
6. Nagato maybe hides himself inside the chameleon or just stays back.
7. Chibaku tensei begins, Itachi notices the ground rising to the sky, he notices the strong gravital pull.
8. The sphere starts growing, while Itachi is pulled in. He realizes, that his only chance to escape is to destroy the sphere.
9: his strongest attack is not amaterasu: its that strange shurikan, his susanoo can throw. (Chibaku is growing rapide now, mountains and trees are pulled in.
10: My opinion is, tht his shurikan wont destroy the chibaku, since even the shots of kyuubi didnt crushed it at once. (Maybe a part is cut of, but nagato will just use more chakra, the devastation becomes bigger, the pull even stronger)



Result: The rock, Itahi stands on will break into its peaces, Itachi has no safe stand anymore, the speed of the attracted rocks increases dramatically, Itachi is smashed on the surfice of Chibaku. He uses Susanoo to try to protect him from the stones, that will impact everywhere.
The chibaku becomes larger and Itachi is closed in Stone. Susanoo can maybe withstand the pressure, maybe not.
It doesnt matter, after one or two minutes itahi cant keep up susanoo. =dead

This is the scenario. (part of it from 1-10)

 

[FloriGlori]

??? Where did he do 2 tsukuyomis?
5 times Amaterasu when?
10 minutes? The whole battle was not longer than ten minutes (after genjutsu ended)
Most battles dont last longer than a few minutes. THATS FACT.
It just seems longer, cause of all those flashbacks, slowmo and some other videoeffects.

Maybe he did al this during the whole narutoplot, but not in one battle.

Nowhere. He used one Tsukuyomi, but it got broken, which took quite a toll on his eyes.

He used one shot to anihilate Sasukes Gokakyu. He missed three shots on Sasuke while he was running away. He used a long shot to hit Sasuke - the one that followed him through the air.

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you can see it yourself.

No, that's not fact. Yes, it may have seemed longer than it actually was, that's why I added the word 'roughly'. But the fight itself was definitely longer than ten minutes.

Itachi fanboys GTFO this thread is only for people with a brain.

This post already showed me who really has some brains in here, my dear.

 

[DivineIllusion]

Look at my posts, look at FloriGloris WONDERFUL post, then you will realize who hasn't a brain.
Might Who is the best example.

The post, where Itachi used 2 Tsukuyomis during one fight?
10 minutes susanoo?
5 times Amaterasu?


Wonderful post with alot of mistakes.

 

[Might Who]

Look at my posts, look at FloriGloris WONDERFUL post, then you will realize who hasn't a brain.
Might Who is the best example.

I can show you why 5 people can stop Itachi for coming in the top 5.. It would take to long just review posts in the thread.

Like Negato, Hiruzen Prime, 1st Hokage, Kabuto, or the 3rd Raikage.

 

[Raito]

1st Hokage, Kabuto, or the 3rd Raikage.

We don't know Hashiramas strength and whether he fought him alone or with his wife.

Oh, a prime Hiruzen should beat a healthy Itachi? amusing.
The third Raikage should beat a high level and smart Mangekyou user?

It makes no sense to discuss with someone like you, because you're one of the biggest fools in this forum, therefore I won't debate with you anymore.

DivineIllusion, I'll answer you soon.

 

[DivineIllusion]

Nowhere. He used one Tsukuyomi, but it got broken, which took quite a toll on his eyes.

He used one shot to anihilate Sasukes Gokakyu. He missed three shots on Sasuke while he was running away. He used a long shot to hit Sasuke - the one that followed him through the air.

You must be registered for see links

you can see it yourself.

No, that's not fact. Yes, it may have seemed longer than it actually was, that's why I added the word 'roughly'. But the fight itself was definitely longer than ten minutes.



This post already showed me who really has some brains in here, my dear.

Ok, sorry for the tsukuyomi,
And, I counted this fire as one use. Yes it where a few shots, but he used Abilty for one attack. Instead of saying one, two or five uses, we should agree on a period of time he uses it. Thats a better way to count it.
I guess it werent more than fifteen seconds, maybe 20.

And, the battle wasnt long.
After tsukuyomi failed.
and theyre on the roof.
The Amaterasusession, maybe one minute or two, not longer.
Sasuke again in the hideout, maybe one minute until he uses his firerelease.
A talking follows.
Kirin, one minute or so.
Oro/Susanoosession. maybe one minute, two three? not more. (while Itachi used Susanoo for not longer than a minute.

 

[DivineIllusion]

We don't know Hashiramas strength and whether he fought him alone or with his wife.

Oh, a prime Hiruzen should beat a healthy Itachi? amusing.
The third Raikage should beat a high level and smart Mangekyou user?

It makes no sense to discuss with someone like you, because you're one of the biggest fools in this forum, therefore I won't debate with you anymore.

DivineIllusion, I'll answer you soon.

Yes third raikage could pawn Itachi. Hes way faster than fourth raikage and to fast to see his movements. Since itachi cant controll Amaterasu with Enton, he loses after the first real direct attack. Susanoo wont resist that three or four fingerpunsh.
And he cant defend against something he cant follow with his eyes.