Itachi: among top 5 or not

[Hexuze]

OK but give me some time but befotre I give you knowledge.... Negato solo Itachi, Killer B and Naruto.

And?
He still died, lol.

Itachi could of just used sword of totsuka from the very start. Kishi wouldn't obv. do that cause the fight would last only two panels.

 

[enditallsin]

i agree itachi never really was shit until the dickriders started hyping his feminine ass up + rep when the boy has a real fight and i mean a REAL FIGHT than i may say otherwise, but until than he's like a steroid taking bodybuilder, hes got big guns but down stairs hes got a little pistol(think about it)

 

[mateosss]

Itachi is by far the most overrated person on the Base!

These are the list of all the people who can beat Itachi, most of them can actually defeat him with med difficulty.

The list is in no particular order

Tobi
Naruto
Sasuke
Sasori
Minato
Path of Pains/Negato
3rd Raikage
A
Madara
Hiruzen ( old form and prime )
1st Hokage
2 Hokage
Kabuto ( With Oro Cells )
Jman

I like Itachi but come on he not as strong as Fanboy make him

The Poll Question Is Itachi Top 5?

of course ITACHI the GOD is in top 5 in all shinobi HE IS THE #1 NINJA THERE ITACHI IS A GOD....ITACHI CAN EVEN CAST GENJUTSU ON MINATO THE GAY W/O EVEN MINATO KNOWING IT WHAT A POOR GAY MINATO

 

[Azure]

IMO nope

 

[kendell]

no way

 

[Might Who]

Fanboys would run off a cliff if Itachi was real and he did it.

 

[Uchiha Riyo]

1. Sasuke/Naruto.
2. Madara
3. Tobi
4.Minato
5. Itachi

That's my top 5.

 

[Might Who]

1. Sasuke/Naruto.
2. Madara
3. Tobi
4.Minato
5. Itachi

That's my top 5.

So Itahci can not be in it since Naruto and Sasuke are in it..... So technically Minato is number 5 to you.

 

[kourosh]

1.the sage of six path 2.first hokage 3.ochiha madara 4.ochiha itachi 5.naruto 6.sasuke 7.jiraya 8.gara 9.tobi with his biju 10.minato
that's 10 top ninja

 

[Raito]

Might Who, amusing as always. Nagato did solo on Naruto d Bee, Itachi only saved them a few times. It makes no sense to discuss with me, I'm right. In facts ppl like you haven't any decent argument. If I go down to your standart, I could debate with arguments like: oh yeah Itachi **** up Nagato easily, just one Genjutsu and it's over.

Serious, don't start to debate with me with your standard.

If you going to prove, that Nagato will avoid all of Itachis Genjutsu, then we can continue this debate.

I've prove that Chibaku Tensei - Nagatos only trump - can be avoid by Amaterasu, I prove it with facts. But all you trying to say is nonsense.

 

[SpiderRider89]

Might Who, amusing as always. Nagato did solo on Naruto d Bee, Itachi only saved them a few times. It makes no sense to discuss with me, I'm right. In facts ppl like you haven't any decent argument. If I go down to your standart, I could debate with arguments like: oh yeah Itachi **** up Nagato easily, just one Genjutsu and it's over.

Serious, don't start to debate with me with your standard.

If you going to prove, that Nagato will avoid all of Itachis Genjutsu, then we can continue this debate.

I've prove that Chibaku Tensei - Nagatos only trump - can be avoid by Amaterasu, I prove it with facts. But all you trying to say is nonsense.

I don't know about Genjutsu, but it's shown that Nagato can escape Amaterasu. Also Chibaku Tensei can kill Itachi alone.. he had help from bee and Naruto to escape it the first time.

 

[Ultimatevirus]

Itachi can come in top 5.... he can

 

[Raito]

Not quite. It was shown how Nagato can rid from Amaterasu after he got hit. Amaterasu is fast and arises at any time on your body, so Amaterasu can obviously hit him.

That Itachi got th help of Bee and Naruto doesn't mean, that he couldn't avoid it alone. But why waive their help if he can use it?

Amaterasu is the way to avoid Chibaku Tensei.
Nagato needs to throw a sphere in the air, which flying up in the sky and starts to attract Itachi.
All Itachi has to do is to target the sphere, during it flying up to the sky.
Amaterasu is definitely faster, because it arises directly in Itachis point of view - in this case this case the flying up sphere. With the Sharingan Itachi can also see chakra, also the flying up sphere which consists out of this.

 

[DivineIllusion]

@Itachi Namikaze, Madara is able to use Susanoo, which means, that he definitely can use Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu (Databook, Wikia).

2. Hiruzen isn't nearly that strong as his reputation. In the young manga Kishis ideas weren't mature. In the young manga someone like Iruka called Hiruzen god of shinobis, but everyone who reads the current manga knows, who are the true legends. Hashirama was the strongest hokage and Madara was a true legend.

Seriously, almost no one could beat Itachi in a 1on1 battle. Who can assert himself against the Mangekyou? Who can defeat a mastermind, which use a high level Mangekyou Sharingan with the strongest genjutsus, Amaterasu, Susanoo (included to totsukas sword and yatas mirror) and the rest of his talent, like speed, Ninjutsu and Taijutsu.

Stop this ridiculous comparisons between Itachi and someone like Hiruzen, Jman or the Raikage.
Granted the Raikages are strong, but besides Amaterasu Itachi has the perfect attack and defense from his Susanoo and additionally the strongest genjutsus.

Itachi is a mastermind with a lot of powerful and varied abilities, he's under the top 5.

Heard of Rinneganusers?
for example Nagato.

Here a list of things Itachi cant defend against.

Shinra Tensei(It doesnt matter what Itachi does, it smashes him away, no chance of avoiding)
Bansho Tennin (Itachi cant do a sh** against the invisible power that pulls you in)
Chibaku Tensei (On a later post Ive read, you just amaterasu it and its over?)
Itachi can do a shit Without Bee and Naruto his attacks where like a baby trying to crush a rock) (Itachis specalities are Genjutsus, not destructive attacks.)Amaterasu and what?


The summonings can be amaterasued, allright (Itachi has three uses of Ms before he runs out of stamina) (One use)
Amaterasuing Nagato= useless (gakido-abilty/Shinra tensei) (second use)

Susanoo useless, since he just can be pulled in, or be blown away as Nagato wishes.
(third use)

Additional the standard jutsus, Itachi uses, which are uselesss as well, Itachi is near to be exhausted.



I wont say anything to the genjutsupart, but since nobody ever tryed to use a Genjutsu (a visual) against Rinnegan, I take it on a similair defencelevel as MS or EMS since its the next step of evolution.
Linked vision also helps to avoid Genjutsus, since they just effect one person at once. (Nagato would see if the battleground of one of his visions changes suddenly and he would also realize, if he suddenly stops moving, cause of external view.)


Stop overrating Itachi dude. He is a genius compared to most Ninjas, but there are differences between MS, which gives you good battleabilties and Rinnegan, which can devaste countries and form planets!

 

[DivineIllusion]

Not quite. It was shown how Nagato can rid from Amaterasu after he got hit. Amaterasu is fast and arises at any time on your body, so Amaterasu can obviously hit him.

That Itachi got th help of Bee and Naruto doesn't mean, that he couldn't avoid it alone. But why waive their help if he can use it?

Amaterasu is the way to avoid Chibaku Tensei.
Nagato needs to throw a sphere in the air, which flying up in the sky and starts to attract Itachi.
All Itachi has to do is to target the sphere, during it flying up to the sky.
Amaterasu is definitely faster, because it arises directly in Itachis point of view - in this case this case the flying up sphere. With the Sharingan Itachi can also see chakra, also the flying up sphere which consists out of this.

Yes and he already knows, what this sphere will do and where is it said, that this works? Another myth, congratulations!
the destructionpower is quite midlevel.
He hasnt shown an attack that anihilates what it hits in one second.
I guess the TBB was the mainpart that destroyed chibaku second Rasenshurikan third, Itachis silly toy, thrown by susanoo.


stop being silly.

 

[Raito]

Amusing!
You watched the fight from Sasuke against Danzou?
The combination of Danzous Fuuton and the powerful pull of his summon wasn't enough to move the incomplete Susanoo from the spot. Absorbing Susanoo isn't easy. You need to go in his distance to start to absorb it of course, and Susanoo is very fast, could crush Nagato with its long arms before Nagato comes to close to him. And you're forget about Totsuka, a ghostly weapon which can't be absorbed - Totsukas sword crush him. Amaterasu is to fast for preta too, as i already said, Amaterasu arises directly in Itachis point of view, it isn't an attack Nagato see coming.

How Itachi can avoid Chibaku Tensei I already explained above.

And as I see, you haven't arguments against Itachis genjutsu.
First, it does not matter whether we've seen a visual genjutsu on the Rinnegan, that's not a fact speaking for the Rinnegans immunity against visual genjutsus.

Second, Itachi hasn't only powerful visual genjutsus, he can catch Nagato with only a finger.

The Sharingan can see through illusions because it has got the ability, not because it's a doujutsu.

Yes and he already knows, what this sphere will do and where is it said, that this works?

The Manga and the databook? Amaterasu has got the feature to burn anything, fire, chakra, no matter. The sphere consists - like Sasukes Katon - out of chakra. So if Amaterasu can even burn a huge fireball consisting out of chakra, a little sphere consisting out of chakra will be burn easily.

Try to reread the facts, look at the feature of the Mangekyous abilities and the databook my son.

 

[DivineIllusion]

Amusing!
You watched the fight from Sasuke against Danzou?
The combination of Danzous Fuuton and the powerful pull of his summon wasn't enough to move the incomplete Susanoo from the spot. Absorbing Susanoo isn't easy. You need to go in his distance to start to absorb it of course, and Susanoo is very fast, could crush Nagato with its long arms before Nagato comes to close to him. And you're forget about Totsuka, a ghostly weapon which can't be absorbed - Totsukas sword crush him. Amaterasu is to fast for preta too, as i already said, Amaterasu arises directly in Itachis point of view, it isn't a attack Nagato see coming.

How Itachi can avoid Chibaku Tensei I already explained above.

And as I see, you haven't arguments against Itachis genjutsu.
First, it does not matter whether we've seen a visual genjutsu on the Rinnegan, that's not a fact speaking for the Rinnegans immunity against visual genjutsus.

Second, Itachi hasn't only powerful visual genjutsus, he can catch Nagato with only a finger.

The Sharingan can see through illusions because it has got the ability, not because it's a doujutsu.


The Manga and the databook? Amaterasu has got the feature to burn anything, fire, chakra, no matter. The sphere consists - like Sasukes Katon - out of chakra. So if Amaterasu can even burn a huge fireball consisting out of chakra, a little sphere consisting out of chakra will be burn easily.

Try to reread the facts, look at the feature

of the Mangekyous abilities and the databook my son.

Ha, youre comparing wind to a power that changes gravity?
You cant resist the attracting of Bansho Tennin, its like you were falling down. Just that the center of gravity is Nagato.

If Nagato burns, a second later, amaterasu is absorbed. Yes, he feels a little pain and is a little hurt, but his chakra is filled up.

To burn everything doesnt mean to destroy everything. Shure it burned a puny fireball. But the chakra of chibaku is that concentrated, that it wont be burned in asecond. I guess it would last minutes or maybe hours. And if Itachi stops using Amaterasu, the fire is gone. (Since chakra isnt a material, that burns like wood)

Shure sharingan sees through most genjutsus, because it can see chakra. But Rinnegan sees chakra too, so what?

No, your myth that amaterasu will destroy chibaku is just a fail. We haavent seen anything that said this. Why didnt Itachi do so, when Nagato used it.
(First: he didnt know what this was going to be, second, he wouldnt wast his rare MSuse to burn some chakra in the sky. Third: there is no proof of Amaterasu destroying chibaku.



Itachi is good, no question, but not top five.

 

[DivineIllusion]

Susanno cant hit Nagato, since no Ninjutsu can, cause of his absorbtion.
Nagoto absorbed Bee while he was in VersII tailedbeastmode.
Do you really wanna tell me susanoo is faster?

 

[Necron]

Itachi is by far the most overrated person on the Base!

These are the list of all the people who can beat Itachi, most of them can actually defeat him with med difficulty.

The list is in no particular order

Tobi
Path of Pains/Nagato
3rd Raikage (?)
Madara
1st Hokage(?)
Kabuto ( With Oro Cells ) (?)
Sasuke(?)
Naruto (with the full form of Kurama + TBB) (?)

I like Itachi but come on he not as strong as Fanboy make him

The Poll Question Is Itachi Top 5?

Corrected your list with logical claims only... The (?) next to a char means they are approximately the same level, and it's about 50-50 who would win.

Itachi is definitely in the top 5.

*and the minato in your list was the funniest thing I've seen... as if that insect could do a thing to Itachi...

 

[Raito]

Of course Susanoo is faster. For example a punch:

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a super fast punch, I can't remember that Kirabi with his chakra mode is faster. Even if Nagatos reflexes are good enough to use his absorption, Totsukas sword can't still be absorbed.