Itachi: among top 5 or not

[Might Who]

y u say that

Are you talking to me?

 

[DUDEBDR731]

Are you talking to me?

Yessir

 

[Might Who]

Yessir

Ok I gonna make it simple.

The 1st Hokage beat Madara with EMS and the nine tails on his side..... So yeah he stronger than Itachi.

Madara- He was like equal to the first but he was weaker than him by a lil bit.

Hiruzen- Kishi said he was the strongest Hokage ever and he was call THE GOD OF SHINOBI.

3rd Raikage he fought for 3 day against 10,000 soilder and he have the best defense ever.

Naruto- You should know why

Kabuto- He have Edo Tensi

Do you need more?

 

[Raito]

On the one hand Itachi is underrated, on the other Nagato is overrated. Your Ideas of fights are totally unrealistic. Against Itachi it's enough to throw a little CT sphere in the air to win this match? Amusing.
Just as Nagato can throw these sphere in to the sky, Itachi can hit Nagato with his Amaterasu or catch him in one of his genjutsus- as simple as that. But while genjutsus are Itachis basic strength which he uses always, Chibaku Tensei is Nagatos trump.


In fact, Itachi is underrated, he has a lot of haters in this forum. The best example is the high number of threads where ppl wanna show us with unrealistic and pathetic arguments, how a Hiruzen or Jiraiya could beat a high level Mangekyou User.

Why don't you begin to stay by the facts of the manga, accept the strength of the Uchihas.

 

[Sanzen]

doesnt make my top 5 but definitely top 15 maybe top 5

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

Ok I gonna make it simple.

The 1st Hokage beat Madara with EMS and the nine tails on his side..... So yeah he stronger than Itachi.

Madara- He was like equal to the first but he was weaker than him by a lil bit.

Hiruzen- Kishi said he was the strongest Hokage ever and he was call THE GOD OF SHINOBI.

3rd Raikage he fought for 3 day against 10,000 soilder and he have the best defense ever.

Naruto- You should know why

Kabuto- He have Edo Tensi

Do you need more?

Actually if you want to get into it I can make a thread that demonstrates that Madara was not in fact weaker than Hashirama. And EMS Madara has not been shown to have either Amaterasu or Tsukuyomi. Which means that he is not really like Itachi. Without a tailed beast, Hashirama would have lost to Madara, and would also lose to Itachi.

The 3rd raikage is not immune to genjutsu, nor is he immune to the Totsuka sword as it is a spiritual weapon.

Kabuto's edo tensei is just about sealed. Without that he doesn't stand a chance against Itachi.

Hiruzen also has no defense against Itachi. This is a terrible match up for Hiruzen.

 

[Might Who]

Actually if you want to get into it I can make a thread that demonstrates that Madara was not in fact weaker than Hashirama. And EMS Madara has not been shown to have either Amaterasu or Tsukuyomi. Which means that he is not really like Itachi. Without a tailed beast, Hashirama would have lost to Madara, and would also lose to Itachi.

The 3rd raikage is not immune to genjutsu, nor is he immune to the Totsuka sword as it is a spiritual weapon.

Kabuto's edo tensei is just about sealed. Without that he doesn't stand a chance against Itachi.

Hiruzen also has no defense against Itachi. This is a terrible match up for Hiruzen.

I would love you to please prove me wrong? Madara was the greatest Uchiha period!

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

I would love you to please prove me wrong? Madara was the greatest Uchiha period!

What?? I never said that Itachi could beat Madara. I said he could beat Hashirama.

And that Hashirama never truly beat Madara.

Given time Itachi could have become more powerful than Madara, but Madara is a cheater and he stole Hashirama's abilities, and got the rinnegan.

Plain old EMS Madara might be able to beat Itachi but he hasn't shown Amaterasu or Tsukuyomi, and Itachi's Susanoo has the legendary weapons whereas Madara's does not.

 

[Raito]

@Itachi Namikaze, Madara is able to use Susanoo, which means, that he definitely can use Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu (Databook, Wikia).

2. Hiruzen isn't nearly that strong as his reputation. In the young manga Kishis ideas weren't mature. In the young manga someone like Iruka called Hiruzen god of shinobis, but everyone who reads the current manga knows, who are the true legends. Hashirama was the strongest hokage and Madara was a true legend.

Seriously, almost no one could beat Itachi in a 1on1 battle. Who can assert himself against the Mangekyou? Who can defeat a mastermind, which use a high level Mangekyou Sharingan with the strongest genjutsus, Amaterasu, Susanoo (included to totsukas sword and yatas mirror) and the rest of his talent, like speed, Ninjutsu and Taijutsu.

Stop this ridiculous comparisons between Itachi and someone like Hiruzen, Jman or the Raikage.
Granted the Raikages are strong, but besides Amaterasu Itachi has the perfect attack and defense from his Susanoo and additionally the strongest genjutsus.

Itachi is a mastermind with a lot of powerful and varied abilities, he's under the top 5.

 

[Might Who]

What?? I never said that Itachi could beat Madara. I said he could beat Hashirama.

And that Hashirama never truly beat Madara.

Given time Itachi could have become more powerful than Madara, but Madara is a cheater and he stole Hashirama's abilities, and got the rinnegan.

Plain old EMS Madara might be able to beat Itachi but he hasn't shown Amaterasu or Tsukuyomi, and Itachi's Susanoo has the legendary weapons whereas Madara's does not.

So he not in your top 5?

 

[Kira was Righteous]

@Itachi Namikaze, Madara is able to use Susanoo, which means, that he definitely can use Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu (Databook, Wikia).

2. Hiruzen isn't nearly that strong as his reputation. In the young manga Kishis ideas weren't mature. In the young manga someone like Iruka called Hiruzen god of shinobis, but everyone who reads the current manga knows, who are the true legends. Hashirama was the strongest hokage and Madara was a true legend.

Seriously, almost no one could beat Itachi in a 1on1 battle. Who can assert himself against the Mangekyou? Who can defeat a mastermind, which use a high level Mangekyou Sharingan with the strongest genjutsus, Amaterasu, Susanoo (included to totsukas sword and yatas mirror) and the rest of his talent, like speed, Ninjutsu and Taijutsu.

Stop this ridiculous comparisons between Itachi and someone like Hiruzen, Jman or the Raikage.
Granted the Raikages are strong, but besides Amaterasu Itachi has the perfect attack and defense from his Susanoo and additionally the strongest genjutsus.

Itachi is a mastermind with a lot of powerful and varied abilities, he's under the top 5.

i would love to see itachi take on a complete nagato or madara he would get owned im sorry however i do think he would beat jiraya but don't you understand what your doing your saying itachi can beat people he can't just like jiraya fans say tht he could beat itachi

if you don't like it don't give it out

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

So he not in your top 5?

EMS Madara or Hashirama?

Hell even Itachi is not really in my top 5 anymore because of rinnegan Madara and Tobi.

Also I usually refuse to rank people that are 100% hype. According to Shikaku legends from the past are always exaggerated. He said it, not me.

All that we know of the Madara vs. Hashirama battle is this.
Madara had EMS
Madara had the 9-tails at that time
At some point in the fight Hashirama gained control of the 9-tails and it was sealed into Mito.
So it turned from a 2 on 1 into a 1 on 2 battle. And EMS Madara still didn't die.

 

[Raito]

Pardon, I've never said that Itachi is going to beat Madara, but Nagato is in my opinion possible.

Nagatos only trump is Chibaku Tensei. When Nagato throws the Chibaku Tensei sphere in the air, all Itachi has to do is to target the sphere and hit it with his Amaterasu. That's of course possible, because Amaterasu arises directly in front of Itachis point of view (the sphere). So Itachi can avoid Nagatos trump. But how Nagato can avoid Itachis basic strength - the powerful genjutsus?

1. Amaterasu - arises at any time in front of Nagato and hit him.
2. Genjutsus - Itachis basic strength and strong enough to finish with Orochimaru easily.
3. Susanoo - a perfect Defense with a powerful attack, one hit by Totsuka, Yasakas Magatama or just his fist and your finish.


Don't debate with me my son, you know that I'm right and you gonna justify Nagatos superiority with foolish arguments.

 

[Hexuze]

Yes.

 

[Might Who]

Pardon, I've never said that Itachi is going to beat Madara, but Nagato is in my opinion possible.

Nagatos only trump is Chibaku Tensei. When Nagato throws the Chibaku Tensei sphere in the air, all Itachi has to do is to target the sphere and hit it with his Amaterasu. That's of course possible, because Amaterasu arises directly in front of Itachis point of view (the sphere). So Itachi can avoid Nagatos trump. But how Nagato can avoid Itachis basic strength - the powerful genjutsus?

1. Amaterasu - arises at any time in front of Nagato and hit him.
2. Genjutsus - Itachis basic strength and strong enough to finish with Orochimaru easily.
3. Susanoo - a perfect Defense with a powerful attack, one hit by Totsuka, Yasakas Magatama or just his fist and your finish.


Don't debate with me my son, you know that I'm right and you gonna justify Nagatos superiority with foolish arguments.

Do you really want me to prove you wrong?

 

[Hexuze]

Do you really want me to prove you wrong?

Yes, please
Explain about the Sword of Totsuka and yata mirror, while you're at it...

 

[Might Who]

Yes, please
Explain about the Sword of Totsuka and yata mirror, while you're at it...

OK but give me some time but befotre I give you knowledge.... Negato solo Itachi, Killer B and Naruto.

 

[Kira was Righteous]

Pardon, I've never said that Itachi is going to beat Madara, but Nagato is in my opinion possible.

Nagatos only trump is Chibaku Tensei. When Nagato throws the Chibaku Tensei sphere in the air, all Itachi has to do is to target the sphere and hit it with his Amaterasu. That's of course possible, because Amaterasu arises directly in front of Itachis point of view (the sphere). So Itachi can avoid Nagatos trump. But how Nagato can avoid Itachis basic strength - the powerful genjutsus?

1. Amaterasu - arises at any time in front of Nagato and hit him.
2. Genjutsus - Itachis basic strength and strong enough to finish with Orochimaru easily.
3. Susanoo - a perfect Defense with a powerful attack, one hit by Totsuka, Yasakas Magatama or just his fist and your finish.


Don't debate with me my son, you know that I'm right and you gonna justify Nagatos superiority with foolish arguments.

right nagato can beat everything itachi has but itachi can't defend vs everything nagato has
and its funny you say madara can win but nagato can't when madara admitted nagato can use rinnegan techniques he couldn't

Amateseru-shinra tensei,preta path or summon block
Susanoo-celestial tera sphere,divine attractor+preta or gedo mazos final technique the soul dragons which will kill anyone without space time/teleportation tbh
and im sorry how can amateseru destroy celestial tera sphere its rock mate it will just make it look like a sun

 

[Tosen]

Itachi ain't top 5 but his def in the top 10
(including the sage of 6 paths)
1.SO6P
2.older = younger sons of the sage
3-5 Healthy Nagato,edo Madara,rinnegan Tobi

(Not including the sage and his sons) barley makes it to top 5 (unless am forgetting abt a character and plz don't include Kabuto xd)
1-3.Healthy Nagato,edo Madara,rinnegan Tobi
4.EMS Sasuke= Naruto
5.Itachi

 

[Zoro..]

Well I stopped reading after you said Sasuke...