[Suggestion] Is there a NB APP in the works

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Does nb plan on creating an app? Because all I use is my iPhone six lol I need to be able to log in here more easily ? The browser is shitty , if you all don't have an app , then you have lots of work to do
 

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It's been suggested lots of times before. It's not a simple thing to do. People just go 'oh make an app' like it can be done overnight. No one has actually a suggested a way on how to make this app and if it's even a viable thing to do. Don't suggest things you have no knowelgde of.
 

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It's been suggested lots of times before. It's not a simple thing to do. People just go 'oh make an app' like it can be done overnight. No one has actually a suggested a way on how to make this app and if it's even a viable thing to do. Don't suggest things you have no knowelgde of.
How about we take actual knowledgeable members and work on app??
It is difficult but not an impossible thing to do, if members are ready to work alongside.
Just a suggestion from my side.
 
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How about we take actual knowledgeable members and work on app??
It is difficult but not an impossible thing to do, if members are ready to work alongside.
Just a suggestion from my side.
No one has actually volunteered to do anything like that. And this app thing has been suggested for years now. Not to mention NB works fine on mobile, sure it's not as fast as on PC, but it's good enough. I use it everyday on my phone and I don't have much of a problem.
 

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How about we take actual knowledgeable members and work on app??
It is difficult but not an impossible thing to do, if members are ready to work alongside.
Just a suggestion from my side.
There are a few problems with this:


  • If you ask for members to be involved in making an app, you'll get a bunch of script kiddies copying and pasting whatever they can find on Stack Overflow all the while thinking they're being helpful.

  • People who possess the skills to make quality apps will either not want to bring work home with them, or alternatively they will have their own personal projects on the go.

  • Maintenance and availability. You're going to have to develop for multiple platforms (Android, iOS etc), and then you'll need to update and maintain the app as needed.
Disclaimer: I have never ventured into the world of app design, but having spent a lot of time with microcontrollers, things are never as straight forward as everyone seems to think they are.
 
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No one has actually volunteered to do anything like that. And this app thing has been suggested for years now. Not to mention NB works fine on mobile, sure it's not as fast as on PC, but it's good enough. I use it everyday on my phone and I don't have much of a problem.
Problem isn't speed, it is sufficient fast, but main problem arises, when we RPers typically make bios, when we need to add fonts and all, while replying as well.
It is my personal experience that adding features such as color etc is tougher on mobile than on PC.
App is a really powerful device, it will also be a good advantage NB will get as a forum, because all my friends are part of some forum or the other and they have apps.
Now, since we have mangabase as well, adding app will also attract users who will come here to read mangas.
These are one of the advantages, there are many more.
There are a few problems with this:


  • If you ask for members to be involved in making an app, you'll get a bunch of script kiddies copying and pasting whatever they can find on Stack Overflow all the while thinking they're being helpful.

  • People who possess the skills to make quality apps will either not want to bring work home with them, or alternatively they will have their own personal projects on the go.

  • Maintenance and availability. You're going to have to develop for multiple platforms (Android, iOS etc), and then you'll need to update and maintain the app as needed.
Disclaimer: I have never ventured into the world of app design, but having spent a lot of time with microcontrollers, things are never as straight forward as everyone seems to think they are.
Before beginning, I would like to add that I am a communication engineer myself.
Making simple app is easy, my friends made one. I have worked on multiple coding projects myself, so I know what I am talking about.U_U
-About copying of codes, we need a 'good moderator', who will choose 'who will work on the stuff' and will lead this project and hence not allowing those 'kidos' to work on stuff. Selection of members will also be there to make sure
that people with 'hidden agenda' are filtered out.
-It is all about willingness, if responce isn't good, they can always abort the project or perks such as premiums can be given to people doing substantial work
-About OS issue, I suggest start with the most common environment, develop for android and iOS and then go for others.
 
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Before beginning, I would like to add that I am a communication engineer myself.
It's nice to meet someone in a similar line of study. I'll try to consider your past experience while I write this, and also preface this by restating that I've never designed an app, so please point out my ignorance if I make a fool of myself.


Making simple app is easy, my friends made one. I have worked on multiple coding projects myself, so I know what I am talking about.
How simple was the app that your friends made? I ask because an old classmate of mine used to boast about his complete mastery over web-design. It turns out that the entirety of his knowledge was how to use one specific software tool, where you could literally drag and drop banners, log-in fields, anything really, and it would complete the code in the background without him doing a thing. Despite him being able to make some impressive looking pages, he ultimately didn't understand how his websites functioned. Hell, he didn't even know how to host anything that he made, he'd always outsource that to someone else. I imagine similar software packages exist for app design, and I advise against their use unless you also understand the inner workings of them.

The app would need to interact with the main NarutoBase frame. I'm not sure how complex this is. If you or your friends were to develop an app then I'm sure many people would thank you for it. My one condition would be that it's secure and not hacked together: good news guys, I can get rid of that pesky error by removing four semi-colons!


About copying of codes, we need a 'good moderator', who will choose 'who will work on the stuff' and will lead this project and hence not allowing those 'kidos' to work on stuff. Selection of members will also be there to make sure that people with 'hidden agenda' are filtered out.
This is quickly evolving into a fully-fledged development. Being a project lead isn't an easy task, and it would require a moderator with knowledge relating to app creation. Would the members need to set up a repository? Would they need to flag errors and have some system to resolve them? Scrum meetings even?


It is all about willingness, if responce isn't good, they can always abort the project or perks such as premiums can be given to people doing substantial work
I think that has been the conclusion of this thread, nobody in recent years has tried developing an app despite the obvious demand for one.


About OS issue, I suggest start with the most common environment, develop for android and iOS and then go for others.
I agree with you. The most popular should always come first, however I was more worried about ongoing maintenance. If a member signs up to develop an app, would they then need to be available six months down the line when something changes and nobody can decipher their work? My honest opinion is that you can't miss what you never had. If an app never exists, some mobile users will be inconvenienced. If an app exists but ceases to function and nobody is around to fix it, the mobile users who relied on it will be annoyed at having to switch back.



Sorry this turned into a bit of a rant.
TL;DR - If making an app would be simple, I invite anyone to try. I just want checks in place to make sure it's done correctly.
 
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It's nice to meet someone in a similar line of study. I'll try to consider your past experience while I write this, and also preface this by restating that I've never designed an app, so please point out my ignorance if I make a fool of myself.
No problem and nice to meet another technical guy like me.;)
I would like to first state that even I haven't designed the app on such a large scale(since I am a communication engineer and not a software one), but I have worked in collaboration with software engineers.
The friend I talked about was one such guy.

How simple was the app that your friends made? I ask because an old classmate of mine used to boast about his complete mastery over web-design. It turns out that the entirety of his knowledge was how to use one specific software tool, where you could literally drag and drop banners, log-in fields, anything really, and it would complete the code in the background without him doing a thing. Despite him being able to make some impressive looking pages, he ultimately didn't understand how his websites functioned. Hell, he didn't even know how to host anything that he made, he'd always outsource that to someone else. I imagine similar software packages exist for app design, and I advise against their use unless you also understand the inner workings of them.
I am aware of this. Many readymade things are available on the internet, but they aren't as good/cool as you want them to be.
I am completely against this, though apps developed using these methods can be used for small scale purposes such as, robot controlling using Android(Just front, back, left, right), typically used by beginners that don't want in-depth knowledge of the stuff, they aren't useful at all in this case.
The app developed by my friend was a bit more advanced one and it was about home automation. The guy who developed it was the software engineer and he developed his own code and all, without much of a financial help. I don't think with the kind of pretty good, technologically solid admins and mods we have it is impossible, though I agree it is indeed tough and will take the reasonable amount of efforts to make one, but the kind of members we have(I came across many engineers on this site, apart from myself and many 'technical geeks'), it is impossible to make one.
The app would need to interface with the main NarutoBase frame. I'm not sure how complex this is. If you or your friends were to develop an app then I'm sure many people would thank you for it. My one condition would be that it's secure and not hacked together: good news guys, I can get rid of that pesky error by removing four semi-colons!
It is indeed a difficult task and yes secured login is something that will be another challenging field, alongside interfacing of VBulletin.
Though life is nothing without the challenges right??
I am just thinking about taking a bit of help from the community in return of some perks so that they can be attracted to make one.

This is quickly evolving into a fully-fledged development. Being a project lead isn't an easy task, and it would require a moderator with knowledge relating to app creation. Would the members need to set up a repository? Would they need to flag errors and have some system to resolve them? Scrum meetings even?
Yes, the project leader is really important here and he needs to have significant knowledge relating app creation, but I think NB has enough amount of talented people to take care of this(this is all my observation and mods obviously know better).
Also, 'trust factor' must be taken into consideration, so that the guy will stay for 6 months and won't just leave 'in between' or drop out.
Obviously, there will be need of some resources and stuff and all of that will be taken care by the project leader, who will be under mods/admins. Heck, we can even form a team of 4-5 people, preferably moderators, who can take care of maintenance.


I think that has been the conclusion of this thread, nobody in recent years has tried developing an app despite the obvious demand for one.
I agree with you. The most popular should always come first, however, I was more worried about ongoing maintenance. If a member signs up to develop an app, would they then need to be available six months down the line when something changes and nobody can decipher their work? My honest opinion is that you can't miss what you never had. If an app never exists, some mobile users will be inconvenienced. If an app exists but ceases to function and nobody is around to fix it, the mobile users who relied on it will be annoyed at having to switch back.
About availability, yeah that's why I suggested 'selection process'.
Also, if the transition happens it is supposed to be the members responsibility to maintain the smooth transition process.
About the app being malfuncting., yeah I agree, but it is just an add-on.
The demand of making an app is increasing by a lot of extent. I have seen many people demanding for the app and making similar threads like OP did.

Sorry this turned into a bit of a rant.
TL;DR - If making an app would be simple, I invite anyone to try. I just want checks in place to make sure it's done correctly.
I would like to conclude by saying that, just like I said in my first post, it is indeed a suggestion that I wanted to present, after taking demand and various advantages into consideration. Developing an app is a challenge, but it isn't impossible, so why not go for one??

Interesting thing, I had to switch to Computer to type all this.>_>
 
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Yes.An app would be cool.It will be helpful when we go to places where we can't possibly carry laptop along with us.I would love to help but I knew nothing about this honestly.Making an app for forums is not an difficult task but for this to come into fruition you need have a dedicated user who knew about the technical working of NB to design an app for this forum.If you have ever been to FTB, that forums have their own app.It works very good with Android.Nealy 40% of users who are active there uses FTB app.



Click on that url>>>type "fairy tail base" in the place of ********* without spaces.Seems like this forum is blocking fairy tail base.



I did some search and I want to contribute something here about the app.Visit the site below.

 
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