is Naruto manga still a great or good manga to you or not anymore?

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In Naruto, Sasuke pulls off a No One Could Survive That by summoning, mind-controlling, and teleporting a massive snake when he's completely out of chakra. Said technique is difficult because of the huge amount of chakra required. He pulled this all off in the time it took for an explosion that would completely level a city to reach him. After the explosion had already started. When it started just a few feet from him. Great Snake Escape, indeed.
Chapter 449: After spending the last thirty chapters wreaking havoc Pain/Nagato pulls a case of Redemption Equals Death and a device that was only shown to be able to repair corpses to bring back everyone that he had killed since entering the village.
During his assault on the Kage Summit, Sasuke nearly died from chakra exhaustion, having been spamming the crap out of high level techs with his new Mangekyo Sharingan. And then, out of nowhere, Zetsu, who had previously shown up to alert the Kages to Sasuke's presence and gotten killed for his efforts, reveals that he managed to use a time release jutsu in the split second before the Raikage snapped his neck that sucks all the chakra out of everyone in the room and gives to Sasuke.
Obito and Kabuto both become examples, as each pulls a Heel-Face Turn, helping to revive Naruto and Sasuke respectively.
Obito died, but turns out his eyes have the power to teleport the user from the afterlife back to the land of living as a chakra ghost, and then he passes both his Sharingan to Kakashi using chakra transfer. Mind you the Sharingan is a bloodline limit and his physical eyes were both destroyed when Kaguya desintegrated his body. And then Kakashi fully manifests a Susanoo in its stabilised perfect form in the first try.
Towards the end of the story, all hope seems lost. Madara successfully rips Kurama out of Naruto, basically killing him and giving him the opportunity to become the Ten Tails Jinchuriki. Then he stabs Sasuke through the chest, and nobody is able to save his life. Except for the Sage of Six Paths, who pulls Naruto and Sasuke into his private limbo, gives them some important exposition, and then hands them the power to fight Madara and defeat Madara while also saving both of their lives. What a nice person.
It was never said that Sasuke was out of chakra.Infact,Sasuke disactivated the Sharingan purposefully which angered Deidera.



Which made him do the suicide explosion.While it was loading up,obvoiusly Sasuke summoned Manda,reactivated his Sharingan and took control of Manda.

2)Do you know what Rinnegan means? Rinne means "Samsara".Samsara is the cycle of death and rebirth to which life in the material world is bound.So knowing that,it's not surprising that the Rinnegan (Samsara eye) has technique involving life and death.

3)Huh? What's wrong with Zetsu using his techniques? And are you forgetting the 100,000 Zetsu clones? There were multiple Zetsu's shown in the Kage Summit arc

4)How Obito and Kabuto changed was understandable and didn't even happen right away.

5)i posted a link above,When Obito became a Juubi's Jin,he implied that he knew things that everyone else didn't.Kakashi gained the MS temporarily because Obito gave him his chakra.Remember that Uchiha's special chakra is what awakens the Sharingan?

Itachi also passed Amaterasu into Sasuke for a one time use.Notice that Sasuke's eye turned into Itachi's MS for that moment and never did afterwards.It was because he no longer had Itachi's chakra so he couldn't have his MS.Kakashi lost his MS once Obito's chakra ran out.



It was implied that Kakashi copied Sasuke's PS,and he was able to use it because he had Obito's plus the Sage's power.




6)???? What is wrong with that? What's wrong with the Sage being able to help Naruto and Sasuke.Should that have been impossible?

Thats all what I need to know, asspull after asspull in Naruto.
None of that was correct,especially the Sasuke Vs Deidara thing.It was never said he was out of chakra,and we found out what happens when Sasuke did run out of chakra when he fought Itachi.

Sasuke used some of his chakra to surpress Orochimaru,so when he ran out of chakra,Orochimaru came out.

The fact that Orochimaru didn't come out when Sasuke fought Deidara shows even more that Sasuke never ran out of chakra.
 
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Correct.Obito did imply that he knew things that everyone else didn't know,now that's he's become a Sage.





It's obvoius his speed increase because he was made.Emotions change your performance.That is fact,in the real world and in manga.How you feel greatlu determines your performance.

If you're doubting yourself then you won't do aswell,like if you're confident.Naruto being mad increased his power,much like all the moments throughout the story where he went Kyuubi from being mad which boosted his power.
OK, take that Kaguya case out, its more about inconsistency than asspull, but there are many other excluding this.
 

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OK, maybe Im not clear enough about Izanami,

What Im looking for is how Itachi knew or learned this jutsu

For Kaguya case, yes in Kaguya sealing chapter, Kishi tried hard to used slow motion scene or panel although we already knew that this Rikudou bless shinobis can blitz peoples in instant without much problem.
I think Kishi made Itachi way too OP . He never bothered to explain how he got hold of Yata and Totsuka blade . Maybe i will agree there was some asspull related to itachi . XD
 

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It was a solid 10/10 for me until kaguya appeared... and including the last 2 bullshit chapters its like a 6/10. I absolutely hated the ending... but whatever..the rest of the series was great
What was wrong with 699? 700 was good to me considering we got to see the future,Naruto,Sasuke etc as adults with kids in a time of peace.

OK, take that Kaguya case out, its more about inconsistency than asspull, but there are many other excluding this.
Based on this i can see what you think are faults aren't actually faults.That was not an inconsistency.Naruto's emotions spiked due to Obito's death and he became mad thus allowing him to perform better.it's simple.

It would be only be inconsistent if he was always enraged like this yet never was able to hit Kaguya,but that's not the case.
 
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I think Kishi made Itachi way too OP . He never bothered to explain how he got hold of Yata and Totsuka blade . Maybe i will agree there was some asspull related to itachi . XD
Yata and Totsuka and clear asspulls. They are the only spiritual weapons in NV, and got nothing to do with kaguya/hagoromo/juubi. Yet Itachi got them somehow from god knows where and seals Orochimaru like nothing XD
 

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It started downhill since the Pain vs Konoha arc for me... That Naruto's TNJ to Pain was too strong... Also, those "red herrings" of NS and the BS of all pairings ruined it. It turned out that the end chapter cause a war just for pairings lol
 

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I think Kishi made Itachi way too OP . He never bothered to explain how he got hold of Yata and Totsuka blade . Maybe i will agree there was some asspull related to itachi . XD
At least you able to agree about something

To let you know, Kishi created Naruto as a deep meaning story unlike light story of DB, he tried to do different thing out of his mangaka idol, .

we cant running from admitting that Kishi still using DB related matters inside Naruto like Chakra cloak, Rasengan as MC main attack same as Kamehameha to Goku among other things

But if Kishi want to writting deep story, he must prepared with many thing, he cant let many unexplained situation happens, Shonen is easy to create than seinen, but that not mean or not a pass for Kishi to neglecting many story aspect like info, plot, consistency, connection etc.
 

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Yata and Totsuka and clear asspulls. They are the only spiritual weapons in NV, and got nothing to do with kaguya/hagoromo/juubi. Yet Itachi got them somehow from god knows where and seals Orochimaru like nothing XD
ya kishi made itachi god of nv . kishi should have made backstory about yata and totsuka . XD
 
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What was wrong with 699? 700 was good to me considering we got to see the future,Naruto,Sasuke etc as adults with kids in a time of peace.



Based on this i can see what you think are faults aren't actually faults.That was not an inconsistency.Naruto's emotions spiked due to Obito's death and he became mad thus allowing him to perform better.it's simple.

It would be only be inconsistent if he was always enraged like this yet never was able to hit Kaguya,but that's not the case.
Yes thats a fault case but not in the asspull zone like many others espacially in part 2 of Naruto.
 

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I gave it a 6/10 on my MAL profile, after what happened towards the ending combined with the movie, I think I was being generous
 

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It started downhill since the Pain vs Konoha arc for me... That Naruto's TNJ to Pain was too strong... Also, those "red herrings" of NS and the BS of all pairings ruined it. It turned out that the end chapter cause a war just for pairings lol
Amen to that. When I start looking back on it now the worse it gets in terms of plot holes, character development, and asspulls.
 

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I see some Salty reaction . I don't know but if Manga was that bad then why people are still discussing about it and still visit Narutobase . That means Kishi did something right and left it to fan's imagination whether they like his ending or not .
 

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10/10 before War arc.
8/10 with war arcc obito ends etc etc.

6/10 after bullsh!t that happend in last with kaguya and etc etc [5.9 points for Itachi and obito and Pain]
 
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