[Discussion] Is Katakuri Admiral level?

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A "random note" doesn't cut it. Like I said before manga is still manga, hold off on all speculations for the time being. Everything else you said is not factual either.
Destroying a few towns here and there is nothing compared to facing the world govt. like Luffy did, so according to all the other supernova's, Luffy is the most troublesome one more than Kidd.
Yeah I'm sure that Oda decided to write "Kaido, King, Queen, Jack" for no reason. There's definitely nothing to read into there.

And yet Kidd had a higher bounty than Luffy.
 

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And Dogtooth isn't a terrible mistranslation?
No. Whenever people say "Dogtooth" is a terrible translation, that just tells me they didn't do jack shit in the ways of looking up anything.

"Erythronium japonicum, known as Asian fawnlily,[2] is a pink-flowered species trout lily, belonging to the Lily family and native to Japan, Korea, the Russian Far East (Sakhalin Island, Kuril Islands) and northeastern China (Jilin and Liaoning).[3][4] It is a spring ephemeral, blooming April–June in woodlands. It is known as zhūyáhuā (猪牙花) in Chinese, eolleji (얼레지) in Korean, and katakuri (片栗) in Japanese.

The katakuriko (片栗粉 "katakuri powder"), is a starch that bears the name of this plant, which originally refers to the starch from the E. japonicum bulb. Because of its small quantity, this starch is no longer common; potato starch has taken its place and name nowadays.
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"Erythronium dens-canis (common name dog's-tooth-violet[2] or dogtooth violet) is a bulbous herbaceous perennial flowering plant in the family Liliaceae, growing to 25 cm (10 in). It is native to central and southern Europe from Portugal to Ukraine.[3] It is the only naturally occurring species of Erythronium in Europe. Despite its common name, it is not closely related to the true violets of genus Viola.[4]

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Its leaves may be consumed raw in salad, or boiled as a leaf vegetable. The bulb is also the source of a starch used in making vermicelli.["
 

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No. Whenever people say "Dogtooth" is a terrible translation, that just tells me they didn't do jack shit in the ways of looking up anything.

"Erythronium japonicum, known as Asian fawnlily,[2] is a pink-flowered species trout lily, belonging to the Lily family and native to Japan, Korea, the Russian Far East (Sakhalin Island, Kuril Islands) and northeastern China (Jilin and Liaoning).[3][4] It is a spring ephemeral, blooming April–June in woodlands. It is known as zhūyáhuā (猪牙花) in Chinese, eolleji (얼레지) in Korean, and katakuri (片栗) in Japanese.

The katakuriko (片栗粉 "katakuri powder"), is a starch that bears the name of this plant, which originally refers to the starch from the E. japonicum bulb. Because of its small quantity, this starch is no longer common; potato starch has taken its place and name nowadays.
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"Erythronium dens-canis (common name dog's-tooth-violet[2] or dogtooth violet) is a bulbous herbaceous perennial flowering plant in the family Liliaceae, growing to 25 cm (10 in). It is native to central and southern Europe from Portugal to Ukraine.[3] It is the only naturally occurring species of Erythronium in Europe. Despite its common name, it is not closely related to the true violets of genus Viola.[4]

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Its leaves may be consumed raw in salad, or boiled as a leaf vegetable. The bulb is also the source of a starch used in making vermicelli.["
The translators aren't supposed to translate the names into their English words, or else Nami would be called Wave. How is referring to Katakuri as Dogtooth any different than referring to Nami as Wave?
 

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I have always said Underlings of a yonkou (and I mean the top 3 among them) with varying degree are all admiral level. The Yonkou are a tier above admiral level though.
 

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The translators aren't supposed to translate the names into their English words, or else Nami would be called Wave. How is referring to Katakuri as Dogtooth any different than referring to Nami as Wave?
Because no translation does that, while the most popular translation does use Dogtooth. People are familiar with that, so who cares?
 

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The list according to me
Yonko
Admiral
New world schichibukai
New world captain
New world first mate
New world Second mate
Captain paradise
First mate paradise
Second mate paradise
 

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These power levels are getting more and more arbituary. "New World Captain," "New world first mate," "New World Shichibukai." Jesus Christ it's:

Top Tier(Admirals, Yonko, Commanders)
Mid Tier(Strawhats, Supernova post-skip)
Low Tier(Strawhats, Supernova pre-skip, CP9 pre-skip, Crocodile)

Then you have outliers like Garp, Mihawk, and Weevil. That's it.
 

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These power levels are getting more and more arbituary. "New World Captain," "New world first mate," "New World Shichibukai." Jesus Christ it's:

Top Tier(Admirals, Yonko, Commanders)
Mid Tier(Strawhats, Supernova post-skip)
Low Tier(Strawhats, Supernova pre-skip, CP9 pre-skip, Crocodile)

Then you have outliers like Garp, Mihawk, and Weevil. That's it.
So you agree Doflamingo is near admiral level?
 

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These power levels are getting more and more arbituary. "New World Captain," "New world first mate," "New World Shichibukai." Jesus Christ it's:

Top Tier(Admirals, Yonko, Commanders)
Mid Tier(Strawhats, Supernova post-skip)
Low Tier(Strawhats, Supernova pre-skip, CP9 pre-skip, Crocodile)

Then you have outliers like Garp, Mihawk, and Weevil. That's it.
Commanders are not in the same tier as a Yonko.
Katakuri for example is not even taken seriously by BM as seen when BM openly insulted him by calling him a lowly child. And also Katakuri was dead scared at the thought of BM going crazy.

Kaido would mop the floor with his Commanders. Shanks can also do the same. And BB most probably can do the same as well.

Marco is the only Commander I see who will give the Captain a challenge and thats only because said Captain is not in his prime.
 

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Like I said for the 5th time, manga is manga.


Well it just proved my point after all the hype you gave Jack
We don't need to be spoon fed information like this. That note in Oda's office make the Calamities' ranking obvious, and even if you choose to ignore it, Katakuri's bounty makes it obvious that Jack(who is much more violent than Katakuri) isn't the FM of the Beast Pirates.
 
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We don't need to be spoon fed information like this. That note in Oda's office make the Calamities' ranking obvious, and even if you choose to ignore it, Katakuri's bounty makes it obvious that Jack(who is much more violent than Katakuri) isn't the FM of the Beast Pirates.
1. You are speculate that Jack is more violent than Dogtooth.
2. I'm not talking about being spoon fed information, I'm talking about being objective. That means keeping to the information that we know now. Remember that I said that Jack could not be the strongest Calamity in Kaidou's crew, you most likely could be right.

But what I'm saying is to stay objective in the time being, which you've struggle to do ever since you started your account here. Just wait and be patient and when the time comes that you are right, then you're right. As of NOW it's just a speculation so I wouldn't quote it as an abslute fact until the time comes with kaidou's crew.

3. Luffy and Kidd both had 300 million bounty pre timeskip with Kidd being slightly higher, in the end Luffy's bounty that was off by like 15 million was still stronger and on a different level than Kidd. So bounties can only mean so much when they are too close to each other like that.
 

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Commanders are not in the same tier as a Yonko.
Katakuri for example is not even taken seriously by BM as seen when BM openly insulted him by calling him a lowly child. And also Katakuri was dead scared at the thought of BM going crazy.

Kaido would mop the floor with his Commanders. Shanks can also do the same. And BB most probably can do the same as well.

Marco is the only Commander I see who will give the Captain a challenge and thats only because said Captain is not in his prime.
kek So Roger would fodderize Rayleigh? Then by this Logic Yonkou >>>>>>> admiral cause Rayleigh managed to stall Kizaru without getting injured himself.
 

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kek So Roger would fodderize Rayleigh? Then by this Logic Yonkou >>>>>>> admiral cause Rayleigh managed to stall Kizaru without getting injured himself.
What are you trying to say? We dont know the power gap between prime Roger and prime Rayleigh but if its anything like G4 Luffy and current Zoro then I think the outcome should be obvious.

Yonko>Admiral or Admiral>Yonko is an entirely different topic btw.
 

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What are you trying to say? We dont know the power gap between prime Roger and prime Rayleigh but if its anything like G4 Luffy and current Zoro then I think the outcome should be obvious.

Yonko>Admiral or Admiral>Yonko is an entirely different topic btw.

You stated a ship Captain low diff rekts his Vice Captain. So that means Roger curbs Rayleigh regardless of prime or not
 
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