[Discussion] is g4 needed to beat zoro?

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I never proved anything this proves your lack of reading skills, you even edited out my example which shows hoe fu**ing stupid you are.
I didnt include that because the tier of attacks used against white beard arent on the same tier as the ones zoro and luffy endured. It's your dumbass comparisons that make you look like a dipshit, you dipshit. =)

Zoro > Luffy in endurance. Ive seen a lot of your dumbass posts on here and you're all black and white. There is no in between with you which is why your credibility is shit and I dont take you seriously. =)
 

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I didnt include that because the tier of attacks used against white beard arent on the same tier as the ones zoro and luffy endured. It's your dumbass comparisons that make you look like a dipshit, you dipshit. =)

Zoro > Luffy in endurance. Ive seen a lot of your dumbass posts on here and you're all black and white. There is no in between with you which is why your credibility is shit and I dont take you seriously. =)

So that's not the point I was making, WB himself only sustained injuries he never took anybody elses damage, hence proving my point the damage one can take can exceed the damage two people take which makes your point moot.

You're a ****ing clown why would I seek creditability from a clown, you acting like I carry what a dumbass think of me.
 

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So that's not the point I was making, WB himself only sustained injuries he never took anybody elses damage, hence proving my point the damage one can take can exceed the damage two people take which makes your point moot
Nothing in this thread proved any of your points. Kuma said that the damage should have killed Zoro while Iva said it's possible for Luffy to survive seeing as it's a hormone injection. Zoro still has the better feat. You on the other hand dont seem to be taking your lose to me in this debate too well with all of the angry name calling lolololol. Go take an anger management class, kiddo. You lose... lolololoolool
 

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I know right? It's not like Iva explicitly stated that Luffy endured not because of physical endurance, aka stamina, but because of willpower. Twice.

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And before you say it, no, enduring something is not the same as surviving because of physical endurance/stamina.
I don't think you know the definition of endurance.
 

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I don't think you know the definition of endurance.
Endurance, in human beings, is physical stamina. How long can you keep going without your body giving in. Iva specifically stated that willpower alone is combined with the hormones, and those will determine if Luffy lives. If stamina played a role, stamina would have been mentioned in one of the two instances Ivankov said what the requirements to survival are. That first page should have ended this farce.
 

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Endurance, in human beings, is physical stamina. How long can you keep going without your body giving in. Iva specifically stated that willpower alone is combined with the hormones, and those will determine if Luffy lives. If stamina played a role, stamina would have been mentioned in one of the two instances Ivankov said what the requirements to survival are. That first page should have ended this farce.
Except he was still enduring it all....thats like saying Iva didnt say Luffy had to breathe thus breathing wasnt required only willpower. Its a given. The definition of endurance is literally what Luffy did, Willpower doesnt erase that.
 

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Except he was still enduring it all....thats like saying Iva didnt say Luffy had to breathe thus breathing wasnt required only willpower. Its a given. The definition of endurance is literally what Luffy did, Willpower doesnt erase that.
Like I mentioned in the post, enduring something is not the same as surviving because of endurance. Endurance, in the context of human beings, is based off the words "endure" and "endurance" in inanimate objects, but they are not the same.

Iva said whether or not Luffy survives the treatment is based on his willpower alone. That's pretty much the end of it. I don't understand this desperate need to cling to "But stamina" when Iva said twice that the hormones and his will are what will affect the treatment. If stamina played a role in whether or not Luffy can survive the treatment, he would have said so. Your breathing analogy doesn't work because breathing DIDN'T have an affect on whether or not Luffy COULD survive the treatment. If Luffy didn't breathe, suffocation would have killed him, not the treatment.
 

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Like I mentioned in the post, enduring something is not the same as surviving because of endurance. Endurance, in the context of human beings, is based off the words "endure" and "endurance" in inanimate objects, but they are not the same.

Iva said whether or not Luffy survives the treatment is based on his willpower alone. That's pretty much the end of it. I don't understand this desperate need to cling to "But stamina" when Iva said twice that the hormones and his will are what will affect the treatment. If stamina played a role in whether or not Luffy can survive the treatment, he would have said so. Your breathing analogy doesn't work because breathing DIDN'T have an affect on whether or not Luffy COULD survive the treatment. If Luffy didn't breathe, suffocation would have killed him, not the treatment.
endurance
noun
1
: permanence, duration <the endurance of the play's importance>
2
: the ability to withstand hardship or adversity; especially : the ability to sustain a prolonged stressful effort or activity <a marathon runner's endurance>
3
: the act or an instance of enduring or suffering <endurance of many hardships>


Yea pretty self explanatory. Not going further with this than I need to.
 

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endurance
noun
1
: permanence, duration <the endurance of the play's importance>
2
: the ability to withstand hardship or adversity; especially : the ability to sustain a prolonged stressful effort or activity <a marathon runner's endurance>
3
: the act or an instance of enduring or suffering <endurance of many hardships>


Yea pretty self explanatory. Not going further with this than I need to.
I actually just looked it up and found that stamina and endurance are not the same thing; surviving the treatment because of willpower can apparently be classified as endurance. Mea culpa
 

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Nothing in this thread proved any of your points. Kuma said that the damage should have killed Zoro while Iva said it's possible for Luffy to survive seeing as it's a hormone injection. Zoro still has the better feat. You on the other hand dont seem to be taking your lose to me in this debate too well with all of the angry name calling lolololol. Go take an anger management class, kiddo. You lose... lolololoolool

It does you're the clown who said damage 2 people take>Damage 1 person takes and I showed you a example where that was not the and even gave a example you clown. It's really not the treatment was described as torture which he endured for 12 straight hours better than any TB feat endurance from Zoro. You win nothing I just don't have time for clowns.
 
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