How To Detect The Zetsus

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I quite so think Slug lady can distinguish Zetsu from Alliance. Naruto, can however to be practical can Naruto go past everyone and sense evil in them? I am pretty much sure that'll take a long time. We don't know the range of naruto sensory bouth in rikudo mode and Sennin mode. Anyone know the range of naruto sensory?
 

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I quite so think Slug lady can distinguish Zetsu from Alliance. Naruto, can however to be practical can Naruto go past everyone and sense evil in them? I am pretty much sure that'll take a long time. We don't know the range of naruto sensory bouth in rikudo mode and Sennin mode. Anyone know the range of naruto sensory?
Slug is not female. >.<
 

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Headdesk* ... Naruto shadow clones are basiclly Naruto himself and he devides his chakra evenly= so identifying real Naruto is difficult for almost everyone.
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No shit captain. Oh and btw, the zetsu clones ALSO HAVE THE SAME CHAKRA DIVIDED EVENLY.
 

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Naruto can detect the zetsu's, no doubt about it. However, i would think he ought to be more preoccupied fighting Nagato, Itachi , Madara and eventually Sasuke so its a little too much if he also has to fight the zetsu's.


OMG<, tooooo much to read^ lol. Sry, can't answer everything you said. As for the manga proof, its clearly said the zetsus use transformation,:


I already linked the page which showed kiba detecting a transformed naruto via scent. The zetsu transformation is different from any other only because he can mimic the chakra of the person he transforms into, but that's about it.
Zetsu can drain chakra, so he uses that in collabaration with the transformation technique to pose as someone who's chakra he has absorbed, and his clone is able to mimic that chakra.....so when said clone transforms into a person whose chakra was absorbed,:
1. The zetsu clone looks the same because of the transformation technique.
2. It has the same chakra as the original person, as said person had their chakra absorbed.
The method of fusion with Katsuyu fusing with Naruto in Kyuubi mode is faster than this and could possibly be completed before the dawn. Thus, Naruto wouldn't be wasting his time. Besides this is a huge problem, and was likely part of Madara's original plan. No sensor ninja before Naruto in perfect Kyuubi mode could sense two identical chakras apart, so there was no way Madara could have accounted for him over the past 100 years.

Regarding scent, as I said, we don't know everything about the Zetsu transformation technique. The page you gave, cited everything the alliance knew about the technique, and it didn't exclude or include scent. It said nothing of scent because they never tested it.

There still is no direct proof that you have provided; however, because this is a story, I'll grant you some leeway because Kishi isn't necessarily going to have covered every single thing the transformation jutsu does and doesn't do, partly because the alliance doesn't know, and it makes it easier on the readers. Further, some of these readers are children. I guess, I might call this a clue as opposed to evidence. Though the Katsuyu and/or Katsuyu+RKS Naruto also have clues.

Nonetheless, until it's shown, it remains an assumption. That point cannot be argued. I'm sorry, but it's simply unavoidable. Because it's never said in the manga makes it equally possible to be true as it is to be untrue. You seem to be assuming that the it's absence is making it true, which is false.

I don't disagree that the idea that Kiba may sniff them out is a clever theory, I disagree that it's not treated as a theory. In other words, you don't seem to acknowledge that you're basing your conclusion on an assumption, like all of us do when we make theories. You say you have proof the white Zetsu can be detected by scent. You cite Kiba smelling out Naruto vs. a ninja dog in the Chuunin exams. We know though, that the white Zetsu technique uses at least a higher level transformation by copying the targets chakra perfect, and we're not sure what else. When I asked for proof of scent working on white Zetsu, you gave me what we already knew which is he can at the very least mimic appearance and chakra perfectly, but that's the limit of our knowledge given the few encounters, and the manga page you cited. Thus, you haven't provided any direct proof about the scent. I'm not playing a game of semantics.

I apologize if you feel I am deriding your theory because it's based on an assumption. I apologize if you feel this way, please let me know, and I'll reread my posts to look at terse replies or possible wording to take offense at. However, I'm not deriding your theory; all of my theories and others I like are based on assumptions too. Personally, I have no problems with your theory, once this is acknowledged. It's a valid assumption in my opinion, and I wouldn't be surprised if Kiba's clan was sufficiently dispersed to work in 3-man teams to wipe them out in a night.

I have an alternate theory, that's likely too complex to happen (Essentially it's a RKS Naruto-Katsuyo super-computer, lol :D), and I acknowledge the assumptions. It's important to do so, so I think you know where I stand, hopefully you agree. By that I don't mean on a theory (Stick to the scent theory as I know you will), but on presenting evidence vs. assumptions. If you don't, then that's your right of course, and I'll respect it.

It's Sunday now, so I may start gearing down, too many of the same arguments and threads before a new chapter comes out. Peace Cyborg. :hug:
 

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No shit captain. Oh and btw, the zetsu clones ALSO HAVE THE SAME CHAKRA DIVIDED EVENLY
You are being silly and I don't have the patience leafeater has. You asked how neji couldn't identify the real Naruto among naruto shadow clones and I tried to explain.

About Zetsu clone you are making an assumption which even if true is irrelevant because we are not here disscussing how to identify real zetsu among Zetsu clones but, real allaiance shinobies and fake copies of them.

Kiba may sniff them out if he knows the real smell of Zetsu and it doesn't change when he copies chakra ( Zetsu is not copying just the form) and how long it will take Kiba sniffing some 30,000 shinobies? Slug has more chances as it can devide itself in such a scenario.
 

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You are being silly and I don't have the patience leafeater has. You asked how neji couldn't identify the real Naruto among naruto shadow clones and I tried to explain.

About Zetsu clone you are making an assumption which even if true is irrelevant because we are not here disscussing how to identify real zetsu among Zetsu clones but, real allaiance shinobies and fake copies of them.

Kiba may sniff them out if he knows the real smell of Zetsu and it doesn't change when he copies chakra ( Zetsu is not copying just the form) and how long it will take Kiba sniffing some 30,000 shinobies? Slug has more chances as it can devide itself in such a scenario.
Its incredible you think that, because thats not what i'm saying. I am NOT saying how to detect real zetsu among zetsu clones you noob i'm saying how to detect if a shinobi is in fact a zetsu clone.
Who says only kiba? That's an example, the entire inuzuka clan could potentially be used for this.
 

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Naruto can detect the zetsu's, no doubt about it. However, i would think he ought to be more preoccupied fighting Nagato, Itachi , Madara and eventually Sasuke so its a little too much if he also has to fight the zetsu's.
Well thats true but heres what I think, as we know no one wants Naruto or Bee to be apart of this war so to keep him busy why not keep a few shinobi with him and sense out the Zetsu (once they learn of his ability). He will be kept busy their and I doubt we may see huge battle just yet. Also remember when Zetsu wanted to battle Naruto (Capture Kyuubi) but Tobi said he was no match for Naruto. This battle will also show some of Naruto skills and as Bee said its best to train him on the battlefield (Zetsu equaling his test dummy lol)
 

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Kiba may sniff them out if he knows the real smell of Zetsu and it doesn't change when he copies chakra ( Zetsu is not copying just the form) and how long it will take Kiba sniffing some 30,000 shinobies? Slug has more chances as it can devide itself in such a scenario.
Its incredible you think that, because thats not what i'm saying. I am NOT saying how to detect real zetsu among zetsu clones you noob i'm saying how to detect if a shinobi is in fact a zetsu clone.
Who says only kiba? That's an example, the entire inuzuka clan could potentially be used for this.
I wonder if you understand that this argument is cross purpose. just how many people are in the entire inuzuka clan and how they would be collectd and be ready to interview- oops- smell Zetsus within timelimit . Are you sure there is something to smell when the very chakra of the person is copied? There is no evidence for or against it so far. Are all of them familiar with Zetsu smell and the smell of the shinobies? Will the Kiba clan will move from shinobi to shinobi all over the place or shinobies will be removed from their posts and make a queue to get smelled? Will Zetsu clone join in or just skip the nosy guys? he can disappear in the ground - leaving no trace and reappear when he wants, after all.
 
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I wonder if you understand that this argument is cross purpose. just how many people are in the entire inuzuka clan and how they would be collectd and be ready to interview- oops- smell Zetsus within timelimit . Are you sure there is something to smell when the very chakra of the person is copied? There is no evidence for or against it so far. Are all of them familiar with Zetsu smell and the smell of the shinobies? Will the Kiba clan will move from shinobi to shinobi all over the place or shinobies will be removed from their posts and make a queue to get smelled? Will Zetsu clone join in or just skip the nosy guys? he can disappear in the ground - leaving no trace and reappear when he wants, after all.
There is suggestive evidence, but your right there's no 100% evidence there. That's why this is a theory, and who knows i may be wrong but from a logical standpoint it makes sense. Moreover, the inuzuka clan will be familiar with the zetsu smell as they fought them in the start of this war. Anyone who disappears will be easy to mark out and the queue system should work.
Well thats true but heres what I think, as we know no one wants Naruto or Bee to be apart of this war so to keep him busy why not keep a few shinobi with him and sense out the Zetsu (once they learn of his ability). He will be kept busy their and I doubt we may see huge battle just yet. Also remember when Zetsu wanted to battle Naruto (Capture Kyuubi) but Tobi said he was no match for Naruto. This battle will also show some of Naruto skills and as Bee said its best to train him on the battlefield (Zetsu equaling his test dummy lol)
Yeah who knows ? Maybe the zetsu's get used as cannon fodder for naruto lol.
 
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