How To Detect The Zetsus

[leafeater]

Katsuyu has shown the ability to use Tsunade's chakra to perform mitotic regeneration, on multiple people. I wonder, if hooked up to Naruto, if that could combine Naruto's unique sensing with Katsuyu's multiple-processing somehow. Maybe he could sense through the slugs as a conduit. Thus, combining speed and efficacy.

 

[Cyborg]

its not normal substitution tho where you poof yourself to look like someone, he changes his body and chakra to look like them it didn't wear off when the zetsu died either (kisame) the zetsu sakura beat up changed back because he knew his cover was blown, on page 8 you see his hair getting shorter and white again so its real shapeshifting.

idk if the slug can tell a difference between zetsu mimiced chakra and the real ones though, so far its just naruto's sensing abilty and maybe karin who will be able to sense that much of a difference.

Ok your right, i used the wrong word, 'transformation' is the jutsu they are using, not substitution.
Good point you make about karin,wonder where she is.
A slug could probably tell the difference if they attached themselves to someone they have been attached to before.

cyborg already said that

i don't think they'd smell any different because they are shapeshifting into the people but its possible.

edit: and yeah i know Ao said they need to think of a way to sniff them out, dunno if foreshadowing or just expresion 0_0

I don't recall anywhere in the manga that says transformation lets you copy the other traits of a person/thing smell is just one. DNA is probably another im not sure but maybe the slugs can detect that like i said earlier.

 

[Scary Yamato]

Using scent is actually a good idea. Even though zetsu is changing his body to mimic the persons chakra and appearance, you cant actually mimic thier DNA. Zetsu will still be zetsu regardless if he transforms his body and chakra into someone else, so he will still be giving off zetsu pheramones, which kiba can sniff out. Thats why they put him on guard duty.

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Another thing they can do to check people (at least to gain acess to the medical area) is have a member of the yamanaka clan check thier memories. If it shows them being stored in an underground cave, then its a zetsu. Its a little risky since you have to touch the person to read thier mind, but its an option

 

[Daruny]

Everyone should take a bath with warm water, soap, and bleach. After all he is using spores. :|

 

[Avani]

Naruto is now the greatest sensor in the world!, among other things, he can detect evil intentions - i believe he may help the army eliminate the hidden zetsus, and perhaps even lead them for a short time!, it would teach naruto to lead, afterall, if hes gonna become hokage, he needs it!

Katsuyu has shown the ability to use Tsunade's chakra to perform mitotic regeneration, on multiple people. I wonder, if hooked up to Naruto, if that could combine Naruto's unique sensing with Katsuyu's multiple-processing somehow. Maybe he could sense through the slugs as a conduit. Thus, combining speed and efficacy.

Slug+Naruto is my theory too! Let's se if Shikaku and I are on the same page or not.

Ok your right, i used the wrong word, 'transformation' is the jutsu they are using, not substitution.
Good point you make about karin,wonder where she is.
A slug could probably tell the difference if they attached themselves to someone they have been attached to before.


I don't recall anywhere in the manga that says transformation lets you copy the other traits of a person/thing smell is just one. DNA is probably another im not sure but maybe the slugs can detect that like i said earlier.

Katsuya has not had him attached to anybody outside Konoha (since pain arc to anybody) ever. How is it going to identify Zetsus who have already infiltrated the allaince camp? What if Zetsu clones the slug too? A slug at the mos can only keep watch on every one and warn if someone is going to be attacked but that will cost chakra and cannot be done for eternity. they need to filter out Zetsus fast- like yesterday.

 

[Cyborg]

Using scent is actually a good idea. Even though zetsu is changing his body to mimic the persons chakra and appearance, you cant actually mimic thier DNA. Zetsu will still be zetsu regardless if he transforms his body and chakra into someone else, so he will still be giving off zetsu pheramones, which kiba can sniff out. Thats why they put him on guard duty.

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Another thing they can do to check people (at least to gain acess to the medical area) is have a member of the yamanaka clan check thier memories. If it shows them being stored in an underground cave, then its a zetsu. Its a little risky since you have to touch the person to read thier mind, but its an option

Yamanaka clan is a realistic possibility and i think with the mind transfer jutsu they may not need physical touch, but then again they would'nt know who to go after so yeah.

Slug+Naruto is my theory too! Let's se if Shikaku and I are on the same page or not.



Katsuya has not had him attached to anybody outside Konoha (since pain arc to anybody) ever. How is it going to identify Zetsus who have already infiltrated the allaince camp? What if Zetsu clones the slug too? A slug at the mos can only keep watch on every one and warn if someone is going to be attacked but that will cost chakra and cannot be done for eternity. they need to filter out Zetsus fast- like yesterday.

By attaching with ppl in the camp. Its not 100% known what the exact capabilities of the slugs are so this is speculation. Not attached to anyone outside Konoha? Lol, really? You seem to forget they belong to Tsunade, who is a sannin and 50 years old with experience in fighting in a war in which 3-5 other nations were involved. She was'nt living in Konoha before Oro attacked and used to go around gambling to many different places. How do you know she never used Katsuyu in any of said places?

 

[LeafDude]

Its easy. Lets see in easy way

Zetsu = absorv chakra from neji and transforms into neji so:

Tsunade's Snail gives chakra to a white zetsu and he transforms into snail.


That's how they will fall.

 

[Avani]

By attaching with ppl in the camp. Its not 100% known what the exact capabilities of the slugs are so this is speculation. Not attached to anyone outside Konoha? Lol, really? You seem to forget they belong to Tsunade, who is a sannin and 50 years old with experience in fighting in a war in which 3-5 other nations were involved. She was'nt living in Konoha before Oro attacked and used to go around gambling to many different places. How do you know she never used Katsuyu in any of said places?

Yeah sure. You seem to be out of logical arguments already. :|

 

[Daruny]

Its easy. Lets see in easy way

Zetsu = absorv chakra from neji and transforms into neji so:

Tsunade's Snail gives chakra to a white zetsu and he transforms into snail.


That's how they will fall.

Lol, no.

Zetsu may choose what to transform into.

I was thinking if slugs eat any form of spores, rather I read about banana slugs releasing spores... hmm... maybe slugs have something in mind detecting spores.... D:

 

[Scary Yamato]

I think we are looking at appearance of the slug all wrong at this point. right now people are seeing the slug which shikaku is thinking and using that as forshadowing, leading people to think the slug is part the solution. I was just thinking that the slug has mainly been used as a chakra transmission from tsunade and for communication.

Naruto has mentioned that he can feel people going wild. I think he is going to mention that to tsunade. They will realize that Naruto can sense malice and then tsunade willuse the slug to get that information to shikaku, who will formulate and awesome plan.

I think that naruto's ability to sense intentions from a distance will be put to use. (maybe )

I still think sniffing out the enemy will work

 

[Dragon Lord]

Perhaps, but i went by this theory because
1. The zetsu's use substitution jutsu
2. They mimic chakra
3. I thought the slugs detected a person's chakra when attached to them.

P.S: + reps would be nice if you think the idea is a good one.

+Rep for you, helping out a brother!

i think my Rep is counted almost 16 points or something, anyway, since narutos chakra can detect evil, maybe he will transfer his chakra to tsunades slugs and detect the enemy!

 

[leafeater]

By attaching with ppl in the camp. Its not 100% known what the exact capabilities of the slugs are so this is speculation. Not attached to anyone outside Konoha? Lol, really?

You seem to forget they belong to Tsunade, who is a sannin and 50 years old with experience in fighting in a war in which 3-5 other nations were involved. She was'nt living in Konoha before Oro attacked and used to go around gambling to many different places. How do you know she never used Katsuyu in any of said places?

Since there is zero information it's equally correct to say she did as to say she didn't, i.e. we have no way of knowing. I seriously doubt that she did summon Katsuyu; however, I wouldn't be surprised if she summoned lesser slugs. In general, it seems people save the Kage level summons only for when needed. That's just suggestive, we'll likely never know.

I'm somewhat concerned about white Zetsus cloning the sluglings, but that may turn out to be like a host vs. graft rejection, which could serve as detection, like our immune system after a transplant.

 

[Professor Sarutobi]

Ok your right, i used the wrong word, 'transformation' is the jutsu they are using, not substitution.
Good point you make about karin,wonder where she is.
A slug could probably tell the difference if they attached themselves to someone they have been attached to before.


I don't recall anywhere in the manga that says transformation lets you copy the other traits of a person/thing smell is just one. DNA is probably another im not sure but maybe the slugs can detect that like i said earlier.

i knew what you meant anyway lol and karin should still be in konoha giving up info from traveling with sasuke and meeting with madara to them.
DNA definatly isn't copied because then they'd be able to use KG from the originals which so far hasn't been shown.

Using scent is actually a good idea. Even though zetsu is changing his body to mimic the persons chakra and appearance, you cant actually mimic thier DNA. Zetsu will still be zetsu regardless if he transforms his body and chakra into someone else, so he will still be giving off zetsu pheramones, which kiba can sniff out. Thats why they put him on guard duty.

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Another thing they can do to check people (at least to gain acess to the medical area) is have a member of the yamanaka clan check thier memories. If it shows them being stored in an underground cave, then its a zetsu. Its a little risky since you have to touch the person to read thier mind, but its an option

i suppose since DNA is changed the scent won't either then, kiba might actually be useful the next few chapters

memories seem to be a good idea as well, either reading their minds although that might take a while and the zetsus would be forced to avoid those detection points or normal memory checks like the 2 medics before they were killed one asked the other if he remembered when they first met so personal info or specific past knowledge (like tonton being a piglet not a person) could give them away.

 

[-Haku Yuki-]

naruto in his controled jinchuuriki mode might be able to

 

[sasukerocks]

nice

 

[Saberwulf]

nah i think the zetsus can mmic smell too but i dont think naruto will be the solution either
he can't use multi shadow clones while in that form and he can't be in two places at once

 

[Avani]

Since there is zero information it's equally correct to say she did as to say she didn't, i.e. we have no way of knowing. I seriously doubt that she did summon Katsuyu; however, I wouldn't be surprised if she summoned lesser slugs. In general, it seems people save the Kage level summons only for when needed. That's just suggestive, we'll likely never know.

I'm somewhat concerned about white Zetsus cloning the sluglings, but that may turn out to be like a host vs. graft rejection, which could serve as detection, like our immune system after a transplant.

I didn't think of that! You have a point there. But that means Tsunade should be at work- Can the slug do it totally on it's own without Tsunade?

 

[Qberto]

You've got a sensible idea, but my only question about it is, unless the white zetsus have a specific smell, kiba & the dogs would need to know the person's scent to know if it was real or cloned.

 

[ReLax -]

I made a topic earlier today on this but except I think Naruto would be the best candidate for this as he can sense the evil and hatred in ppl like Kisame stated when he got caught

 

[niblack89]

Well Kiba hasn't noticed that there are enemy zetsu in his camp sight. I do think they can change their sents. If your using Neji's chakra your gonna smell like Neji.

After Naruto and A go at it Katsuyu is going to tell Tsunade about the situation and Naruto is going to as maybe that's the reason why I can feel people panicking all over. Then they going to see that Naruto can sniff out the zetsu they'll have to bring back the whole army so Naruto can sniff them out. Tobi is going to be pissed cause now his zetsu are useless.