How strong is Shisui actually?

[lol99]

Not necessarily. I'm sure that you can keep it active for more than at least 30 seconds. And that techniques allows the caster to place a command on someone's mind, I'm sure you can go back and erase the command or even change it.

itachi said he embedded the command on the crow's eye which must have taken time.
it should mean shisui would require time to actually construct a command to use it.
:shrug:

 

[Οdin]

itachi said he embedded the command on the crow's eye which must have taken time.
it should mean shisui would require time to actually construct a command to use it.
:shrug:

But Shisui doesn't need time to actually construct the command. He can do it at will right on the spot; that's what Danzo did to Mifune. The difference between Itachi, Danzo, and Shisui is that Itachi didn't have Shisui's eye implanted. If he did have it implanted, then maybe he could have just used it when he needed, instead of actually wasting 10 years just because he had to construct the command.

 

[Exaar]

although if KA is all such

why did mifune snap out of it?
Danzo should have given a command like "make me the leader of shinobi alliance"
and KA is supposed to be permanent, yet mifune chose raikage afterwards

or did danzo gave a lesser binding command like "danzo is best suited for the leader" or that he simply couldn't use KA to full potential?

and also why is KA in both eyes of shisui?

Maybe Ka breaks once the affected is aware of whats happening.

 

[lol99]

But Shisui doesn't need time to actually construct the command. He can do it at will right on the spot; that's what Danzo did to Mifune. The difference between Itachi, Danzo, and Shisui is that Itachi didn't have Shisui's eye implanted. If he did have it implanted, then maybe he could have just used it when he needed, instead of actually wasting 10 years just because he had to construct the command.

right there
no proof :/

wtf?

 

[Οdin]

right there
no proof :/

wtf?

Are you telling me that his genjutsu command has to be constructed before it can be used? That's like having to create the command for a fight 2 years from now. It should be obvious that he can use it right there on the spot.

Go read the manga on what Itachi said for the rest.

 

[lol99]

Are you telling me that his genjutsu command has to be constructed before it can be used? That's like having to create the command for a fight 2 years from now. It should be obvious that he can use it right there on the spot.

Go read the manga on what Itachi said for the rest.

u mad bro?
i am asking for opinion about time required to construct a command not my fault, you jump on the conclusion that i suggested that time be years cause i didnt :|

and itachi never said he needed 10 years to construct a command, he said KA is unusable for 10 years cause shisui's mangekyo requires another decade atleast to activate again discounting senju hashirama dna that is :/

 

[Οdin]

u mad bro?
i am asking for opinion about time required to construct a command not my fault, you jump on the conclusion that i suggested that time be years cause i didnt

and itachi never said he needed 10 years to construct a command, he said KA is unusable for 10 years cause shisui's mangekyo requires another decade atleast to activate again discounting senju hashirama dna that is :/

You misinterpreted. I said that he probably had to use the eye to actually construct the command , but he couldn't use it afterwards because he already used it to construct the command. The time to construct the command shouldn't take long at all. Please don't try to add another weakness to it.

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[lol99]

You misinterpreted. I said that he probably had to use the eye to actually construct the command , but he couldn't use it afterwards because he already used it to construct the command. The time to construct the command shouldn't take long at all. Please don't try to add another weakness to it.

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will probably see a lot of threads now saying danzo will make anyway commit suicide. :|
i hope shisui comes back as edo so we can clear this up :/
i'm out

 

[Οdin]

will probably see a lot of threads now saying danzo will make anyway commit suicide. :|
i hope shisui comes back as edo so we can clear this up :/
i'm out

Cool, but remember that all genjutsu are based on the mind. The time needed to create the command shouldn't be longer than thinking "protect Konoha".

 

[Anorien16]

Shisu powers:
1. Basic sharingan.
2. Koto akatsumi. Can be cast only once in 16 years.
3. Body flicker jutsu.
4. Uchiha katon jutsues.
5. ??????????????
etc

I dont think we know enough about him to compare him with anyone except the mini boss fodders.

 

[Mante]

So, Shisui > Madara even? D:

 

[Helikido]

Their is no such thing as time to construct a command for KA. That is pure BS.

 

[Owarij]

The deadliness of KA , is that the victim doesn't know they are being controlled.. Most likely if they ever become away (someone telling them), then they can break it..

But when you're in a 1v1 situation, and you have no way of knowing, it's over

 

[Dark Artist]

people sometimes are stupid

don't overrate a character if u don't see him fighting

dont believe the hype believe ur ****ing eyes

 

[Mante]

The deadliness of KA , is that the victim doesn't know they are being controlled.. Most likely if they ever become away (someone telling them), then they can break it..

But when you're in a 1v1 situation, and you have no way of knowing, it's over

well, how did Danzo got Shisui's eye if he was that strong?
I doubt he offered it :|

 

[choft]

well, how did Danzo got Shisui's eye if he was that strong?
I doubt he offered it :|

Shisui can't spam KA. It can only be used once every 10 years so he probably couldn't use it against Danzo.

 

[Owarij]

well, how did Danzo got Shisui's eye if he was that strong?
I doubt he offered it :|

And why do you doubt that? They both have the same ideals as for protecting in shadows...

If danzo did forcefully take it, that makes no sense.. hiruzen was hokage, he could easily go and report it .... Danzo would be put to death or something...He didn't do it however , which is weird..


Shishui knew he was going to die....he knew of itachi's mission.... He entrusted itachi with it so he could continue his belief of protecting konoha from the shadows.. the same belief danzo shared..


Then there is the fact that danzo doesn't do anything alone... If he was going to go attack shishui, he would have brought root, or sent root members.. just like he sent root members to get ao's byakugan...

Then there's the possibility that shishui's eyes were on CD at the specific time....


Finally what makes the least sense is if danzo truly took it forcefully, he would have taken BOTH eyes.... maybe even killed shishui...

None of what happened makes any sense, other than shishui giving him one, and itachi the other to protect konoha in their own ways

 

[Munboy]

Mangekyou Sharingan (unsure if he mastered it to get Susanoo).
Uchiha Katon.
Strongest Genjutsu among the Uchiha.
Kotoamatsukami.
Boss-level Shunshin.
Possibly a fake Rikudou like Danzo (Ao said Danzo's chakra colour, from the arm to the eye matched Shisui), which implies imperfect Izanagi and Mokuton bursts.

It is hard to gauge him, especially when he's probably going to show his powers eventually.
Though from what we know, he's doubtlessly on a high level- but not high enough to beat the elites like Nagato, Kabuto, Madara and BM Naruto.

 

[Sn0rkack]

If he was such a badass, Danzou wouldn't have gotten the drop on him and ripped out his eye.

 

[Icelerate]

And why do you doubt that? They both have the same ideals as for protecting in shadows...

If danzo did forcefully take it, that makes no sense.. hiruzen was hokage, he could easily go and report it .... Danzo would be put to death or something...He didn't do it however , which is weird..

If Danzo did forcefully take the eye what makes you think Hiruzen would put him to death? Has Hiruzen ever ordered the execution of anyone? And Danzo was able to do anything he wanted either without Hiruzen knowing or Hiruzen didn't care.