How strong is Shisui actually?

[Punk Hazard]

Shisui can KA SO6P and Goku SMH....

Genjutsu (幻術; Literally meaning "Illusionary Techniques") are techniques that are employed in the same fashion as ninjutsu, requiring chakra and hand seals. However, the primary difference between the two is that the effects of genjutsu are illusory; instead of attacking the victim's body, like taijutsu or ninjutsu, genjutsu techniques manipulate the flow of chakra in the victim's brain, thus causing a disruption in their senses. According to the Second Mizukage, genjutsu fittingly falls under the broad category of Yin Release.[1]


not really since ka is a genjutsu and goku has no chakra

 

[password]

i think he can beat itachi and naruto he can't beat madara and hashirama not sure about tobi

 

[Οdin]

This is why I don't understand how people can underrate Danzo. He had KA able to use it 1-2 times a day and 11 minutes Izanagi. Arguably the 2 best genjutsu's in the whole show. Couple them together and it spells danger for the opponent. Danzo's Juinjutsu would also be troublesome for many people (Not many people are able to release a burst of chakra equal to a Susanoo). Then he has decent wind techs and summoning.

They say that because he was defeated by Sasuke. Sasuke would have lost the minute Danzo used Shisui's genjutsu, but Kishimoto didn't want that to happen.

You can say he cannot beat Kabuto cose the current Kabuto doesnt need his eyes to fight properly

Shisui's genjutsu doesn't require eye contact.

 

[Blaze Release]

Shisui mustve been very strong. His 2 nickinames rival minato and itachi.
he was hailed as the best shunshin user, whilst minato was hailed for ftg. By hype he has the fastest shunshin, even faster than minato who uses shunshin in base, A, sasuke and itachi. His second nickname hailed his as the strongest genjutsu user and this rivals itachi. He was also like itachi's big brother, his sensei and ive every reason to believe that itachi's mastery of shunshin and genjutsu is derived from shushi's training.

So yes by hype his 2 nicknames rivals minato and itachi, along with his ms abilities id put him mid kage. He was also hailed along with itachi as the brightest even amonst the uchiha.

Reason why i exclude him from top10 is because he doesnt really have much feats.

 

[Exaar]

Genjutsu (幻術; Literally meaning "Illusionary Techniques") are techniques that are employed in the same fashion as ninjutsu, requiring chakra and hand seals. However, the primary difference between the two is that the effects of genjutsu are illusory; instead of attacking the victim's body, like taijutsu or ninjutsu, genjutsu techniques manipulate the flow of chakra in the victim's brain, thus causing a disruption in their senses. According to the Second Mizukage, genjutsu fittingly falls under the broad category of Yin Release.[1]


not really since ka is a genjutsu and goku has no chakra

Lets say Ka worked.

He wouldn't be able to do nothing to goku.

He doesn't know how to use Goku's powers, just like captain Ginyu didn't when he Body switched with him

 

[FlyingThunderGodHax]

Genjutsu (幻術; Literally meaning "Illusionary Techniques") are techniques that are employed in the same fashion as ninjutsu, requiring chakra and hand seals. However, the primary difference between the two is that the effects of genjutsu are illusory; instead of attacking the victim's body, like taijutsu or ninjutsu, genjutsu techniques manipulate the flow of chakra in the victim's brain, thus causing a disruption in their senses. According to the Second Mizukage, genjutsu fittingly falls under the broad category of Yin Release.[1]


not really since ka is a genjutsu and goku has no chakra

I was joking lol
Ofc goku > shisui I can't believe people thought I was serious.

 

[DracoHazel]

people need to stop overestimate one character that we barely know 'bout em, even if Shisui is Itachi's sensei but that doesn't mean that he's stronger than him, just take Kakashi and Naruto for example, clearly, Naruto is on a whole new level above Kakashi...and imagine if Kakashi was a fodder just like Shisui, and then one day Naruto talk about him and mention crap like he copied a thousand jutsu, a non-Uchiha who awaken MS and stuff, people gonna think he's hella strong, which in reality he's pretty much nothing compared to others powerful character.

 

[Οdin]

I was joking lol
Ofc goku > shisui I can't believe people thought I was serious.

LOL Just making sure. Some people do believe that he can use that genjutsu against the Sage.

 

[sulanis]

The problem is, is that he can only use the genjutsu once every ten years. So if he is strong because he was able to awaken his MS.

but i doubt he's that strong. Also we know nothing about his abilities beyond that genjutsu. So we can make a fair judgment call.

 

[Tsuki]

Last I checked KA doesn't need eye contact? correct me if I'm wrong.

izanami doesnt need eye contact but KA needs u see in manga

Edit: It was that guy with a kenpatchi avatar who said it doesnt need eye contact but it's not true...

 

[iSpeak]

izanami doesnt need eye contact but KA needs u see in manga

KA doesn't need eye contact. He used it against Mifune with his bandages on.

 

[Οdin]

izanami doesnt need eye contact but KA needs u see in manga

Shisui's genjutsu doesn't need eye contact. You probably have to be within his sight so he can be able to cast it on you, but eye contact is not needed.

 

[Tsuki]

Shisui's genjutsu doesn't need eye contact. You probably have to be within his sight so he can be able to cast it on you, but eye contact is not needed.

ah ok almost forgot about danzo, was actually thinking about when edo itachi got eyes contact with the bird

 

[NOemotions]

Very stupid to make thread about a dude we havent seen a sh**, he is must likely stronger than sausage and itachi, but just cuz of he has genjutsu he can use once in a 10years dont just make him Overpowered that jutsu LIKE EVERY other is having a weakness.. so dont get wet cuz of he has KA, we need to see more of him.

 

[lol99]

although if KA is all such

why did mifune snap out of it?
Danzo should have given a command like "make me the leader of shinobi alliance"
and KA is supposed to be permanent, yet mifune chose raikage afterwards

or did danzo gave a lesser binding command like "danzo is best suited for the leader" or that he simply couldn't use KA to full potential?

and also why is KA in both eyes of shisui?

 

[Οdin]

although if KA is all such

why did mifune snap out of it?
Danzo should have given a command like "make me the leader of shinobi alliance"
and KA is supposed to be permanent, yet mifune chose raikage afterwards

or did danzo gave a lesser binding command like "danzo is best suited for the leader" or that he simply couldn't use KA to full potential?

Ao knows when someone is under genjutsu, he told the others. Danzo had to stop the genjutsu. No one in that summit was going to allow him to keep using it on Mifune.

 

[MasterOftheUchiha]

He must be pretty strong because he taught itachi almost everything he knew that is what itachi stated when he said shisui told him to kill him

 

[lol99]

Ao knows when someone is under genjutsu, he told the others. Danzo had to stop the genjutsu. No one in that summit was going to allow him to keep using it on Mifune .

it is supposed to be a one hit technique

 

[Mante]

Very stupid to make thread about a dude we havent seen a sh**, he is must likely stronger than sausage and itachi, but just cuz of he has genjutsu he can use once in a 10years dont just make him Overpowered, that jutsu LIKE EVERY other is having a weakness.. so dont get wet cuz of he has KA, we need to see more of him.

exactly I want to say...and what I want others to believe..

 

[Οdin]

isn't supposed to be a one hit technique

Not necessarily. I'm sure that you can keep it active for more than at least 30 seconds. And that techniques allows the caster to place a command on someone's mind, I'm sure you can go back and erase the command or even change it.