Homosexuality (since it has been a popular topic on NB as of late)

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Again, I'm challenging the people who believe homosexuality is a choice with this question:

If being Gay is a choice, what about the people who get abused and depressed and even commit suicide because of their lifestyle? Who honestly with all their heart WISH they were straight to have a "normal" life but just can't? Is it still a choice then? Why choose it?

What about Gay people who are devout Christians and think they're abominations because of the way they were brought up? Don't you think they'd rather NOT be human manifestations of "sin"?

I hate that most Christians pick and choose their beliefs. They'll quote Leviticus at you all day and night when it comes to Gay people but you never see them feeding their cattle before they procreate or whatever crazy archaic rules they have in the Bible.

The thing people need to realize about the Bible was that it was written by human beings. And it was written as a guide for people in THAT DAY to help them live. When the Bible says that homosexuals are an abomination, you have to understand the Bible in that context. What the writers of the Bible meant to say was that homosexual relations aren't PRACTICAL because it doesn't lead to making babies, as was a priority in that day. It doesn't necessarily say it was a sin.
 
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Okay, in my response I might get a lot of flame.
I'm male because I have a penis. I'm attracted to females because its all about the procreation business. As you can plainly see, homosexuals can't procreate, can they?
Well sure they can, just not with the partners of their choice. xD

One question, do you only want to have *** with atrractive women when they got their period? I guess no. You see humanity is not bound by the chains of procreation, like (most) animals are. We achieved a whole other level of perception.
 

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Well what should I say about this... xD



So now you claim I got short temper when in fact I only replied to your wannabe-funny statement in an as rude way? Come on really.
Its clear you lost your temper, I will say no more on that matter its time to move on.
 

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Again, I'm challenging the people who believe homosexuality is a choice with this question:

If being Gay is a choice, what about the people who get abused and depressed and even commit suicide because of their lifestyle? Who honestly with all their heart WISH they were straight to have a "normal" life but just can't? Is it still a choice then? Why choose it?

What about Gay people who are devout Christians and think they're abominations because of the way they were brought up? Don't you think they'd rather NOT be human manifestations of "sin"?

I hate that most Christians pick and choose their beliefs. They'll quote Leviticus at you all day and night when it comes to Gay people but you never see them feeding their cattle before they procreate or whatever crazy archaic rules they have in the Bible.

The thing people need to realize about the Bible was that it was written by human beings. And it was written as a guide for people in THAT DAY to help them live. When the Bible says that homosexuals are an abomination, you have to understand the Bible in that context. What the writers of the Bible meant to say was that homosexual relations aren't PRACTICAL because it doesn't lead to making babies, as was a priority in that day. It doesn't necessarily say it was a sin.
Because in one way or another, they like being gay. Even to the point that they don't care what people think about them. It's still a choice.
 

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Again, I'm challenging the people who believe homosexuality is a choice with this question:

If being Gay is a choice, what about the people who get abused and depressed and even commit suicide because of their lifestyle? Who honestly with all their heart WISH they were straight to have a "normal" life but just can't? Is it still a choice then? Why choose it?

What about Gay people who are devout Christians and think they're abominations because of the way they were brought up? Don't you think they'd rather NOT be human manifestations of "sin"?

I hate that most Christians pick and choose their beliefs. They'll quote Leviticus at you all day and night when it comes to Gay people but you never see them feeding their cattle before they procreate or whatever crazy archaic rules they have in the Bible.

The thing people need to realize about the Bible was that it was written by human beings. And it was written as a guide for people in THAT DAY to help them live. When the Bible says that homosexuals are an abomination, you have to understand the Bible in that context. What the writers of the Bible meant to say was that homosexual relations aren't PRACTICAL because it doesn't lead to making babies, as was a priority in that day. It doesn't necessarily say it was a sin.
Well said.. +rep
 

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My point: How a human is expressed, physically or mentally, isn't always based off of genes, so the gay gene may not be needed.

Also, if homosexuality is a choice, when did you choose vaginas over penises?
You chose to not act upon your attraction to penises?
ooh well i see what you mean. but i wasnt incorrect in my answer.

who ever said i was attracted to penises?

define attraction.

I'm not quite sure if you even deserve recognition from me but no, I'm straight. I don't want to kiss other guys, I don't want to have *** with other guys and I don't dream about other guys. I just want to state that you're a freaking idiot with no sence of common behaviour.
so your still in the closet?
 

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Because in one way or another, they like being gay. Even to the point that they don't care what people think about them. It's still a choice.
Well, duhh.. why would someone "like" being gay? Because they're happy like that!(eventually)
 

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Again, I'm challenging the people who believe homosexuality is a choice with this question:

If being Gay is a choice, what about the people who get abused and depressed and even commit suicide because of their lifestyle? Who honestly with all their heart WISH they were straight to have a "normal" life but just can't? Is it still a choice then? Why choose it?

What about Gay people who are devout Christians and think they're abominations because of the way they were brought up? Don't you think they'd rather NOT be human manifestations of "sin"?

I hate that most Christians pick and choose their beliefs. They'll quote Leviticus at you all day and night when it comes to Gay people but you never see them feeding their cattle before they procreate or whatever crazy archaic rules they have in the Bible.

The thing people need to realize about the Bible was that it was written by human beings. And it was written as a guide for people in THAT DAY to help them live. When the Bible says that homosexuals are an abomination, you have to understand the Bible in that context. What the writers of the Bible meant to say was that homosexual relations aren't PRACTICAL because it doesn't lead to making babies, as was a priority in that day. It doesn't necessarily say it was a sin.
do you think a pedophile is a pedophile by choice or because he was born with a pedophile gene?

what about people with fetishes? were they bron with a fetish gene? or its a choice?
 

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Again, I'm challenging the people who believe homosexuality is a choice with this question:

If being Gay is a choice, what about the people who get abused and depressed and even commit suicide because of their lifestyle? Who honestly with all their heart WISH they were straight to have a "normal" life but just can't? Is it still a choice then? Why choose it?

What about Gay people who are devout Christians and think they're abominations because of the way they were brought up? Don't you think they'd rather NOT be human manifestations of "sin"?

I hate that most Christians pick and choose their beliefs. They'll quote Leviticus at you all day and night when it comes to Gay people but you never see them feeding their cattle before they procreate or whatever crazy archaic rules they have in the Bible.

The thing people need to realize about the Bible was that it was written by human beings. And it was written as a guide for people in THAT DAY to help them live. When the Bible says that homosexuals are an abomination, you have to understand the Bible in that context. What the writers of the Bible meant to say was that homosexual relations aren't PRACTICAL because it doesn't lead to making babies, as was a priority in that day. It doesn't necessarily say it was a sin.

I agree.

And I hate when they quote that, but things like having your kid stoned if he is bad, that even a thought about *** with the opposite *** is bad etc..

They are all such hypocrites. They all forget about what Jesus said.
To quote Ghandi, " I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
 

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Because in one way or another, they like being gay. Even to the point that they don't care what people think about them. It's still a choice.
Um, no? You're saying every single gay person on earth likes being gay in one way or another that stops them from being straight. That's what you're implying correct? Otherwise, gay people would just be straight if they could help it.

So I suppose the thousands of homosexual people who kill themselves every day because they're persecuted by everyone around them decided to just end their own lives rather than magically turn straight.
 

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Its clear you lost your temper, I will say no more on that matter its time to move on.
No, in fact I just informed you that my mother tongue is not english, it's german and I would like you to try to just write one straight sentences in my mother tongue, so you would understand how difficult it can get to debate such a comprehensive topic with a inferior vocabulary.

And the thing about you saying nothing more about it just shows me how arrogant you truly are because you got not more base for a logical debate, you rely on your personal perception when you again didn't think that I probably just didn't know how to phrase correctly what I was trying to say.

Btw, if I lost my temper I would have insulted you.

That's all about it.
 

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do you think a pedophile is a pedophile by choice or because he was born with a pedophile gene?

what about people with fetishes? were they bron with a fetish gene? or its a choice?
What makes you think a CRIME like pedophilia can be comparable on ANY level to homosexuality? That goes for fetishes too.

It just shows a deep seated ignorance on some people's part when it comes to sexual preference.

God, I love that quote Ghandi said about Christians that Amanwithnoplan cited.

You REALLY think, Jesus would label homosexuals as criminals and sexual deviants the way you do? REALLY.
 

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Often, a guy with emotion and a short temper will win the debate because of the passion :)
lol yep

Fucc everyone who has a problem with gay people.. they don't say anything. When your punk ass dad marries ur mom... but on this topic. I have no problem with them.. 1/4 of my friends are gay.. my sister is a lesbien and my brother was gay.. I believe a god exsist some where in this heartless world.. just not the one portrayed in these books
I kinda feel the same way.

I agree.

And I hate when they quote that, but things like having your kid stoned if he is bad, that even a thought about *** with the opposite *** is bad etc..

They are all such hypocrites. They all forget about what Jesus said.
To quote Ghandi, " I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."

Well said!
 
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