Hiruzen

[TheSages456]

Re: Tsunades shock shows that hashirama > hiruzen

Databooks wrote by Kishi
Page 117: "He is such a genius ninja that he was even called the 'Professor', and he still garners everyone's respect as the strongest Hokage in history." (「„プロフェッサー”と呼ばれたほ� �� �� ��天才忍者であり、歴代最強の影 として皆の尊敬を集め続ける。」, "'Purofessā' to yobareta hodo no tensai ninja de ari, rekidai saikyō no Hokage toshite mina no sonkei o atsume tsuzukeru")

Page 119: "'Strongest in history', 'genius', et cetera, the words used to describe the Third Hokage." (「„歴代最強”„天才”など、三代� �� �� �� �� �� ��火影を形容する言葉は賞賛に満�� �� �� �� � �て いる。」, "'Rekidai saikyō' 'tensai' nado, Sandaime Hokage o keiyōsuru kotoba wa shōsan ni michite iru.")

Page 265: "The Third is called the strongest, even among the past Hokage, and he is even admired as the 'God of Shinobi'." (「三代目は歴代火影の中でも最強と� �� �� �� �� �� ��われ、„忍の神”と謳われたこ�� �� �� �� � �も 。」, "Sandaime wa rekidai Hokage no naka demo saikyō to iware, 'Shinobi no Kami' to utawareta koto mo")

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the databooks also stated that tobi is madara, that orochimaru imvented edo tensei, that naruto and sakura are equal. all outdated info. its already been proven why hashirama is superior. his feats are far superior and he has much better hype.

 

[TouchMyMangos]

Re: Tsunades shock shows that hashirama > hiruzen

This is one of the dumbest threads i've ever seen.

 

[Exaar]

Re: Tsunades shock shows that hashirama > hiruzen

the databooks also stated that tobi is madara, that orochimaru imvented edo tensei, that naruto and sakura are equal. all outdated info. its already been proven why hashirama is superior. his feats are far superior and he has much better hype.

All it's proven is that Hashirama is stronger than Madara.
and that hashirama was the strongest of his time.

Nothing else. Nothing about him being the strongest hokage.

When kishi say's it outright that hashirama is the strongest hokage than i'll let it be, Untill then he isn't.

 

[SasukeTheViper EMS]

Re: Tsunades shock shows that hashirama > hiruzen

Databooks wrote by Kishi
Page 117: "He is such a genius ninja that he was even called the 'Professor', and he still garners everyone's respect as the strongest Hokage in history." (「„プロフェッサー”と呼ばれたほ� �� �� ��天才忍者であり、歴代最強の影 として皆の尊敬を集め続ける。」, "'Purofessā' to yobareta hodo no tensai ninja de ari, rekidai saikyō no Hokage toshite mina no sonkei o atsume tsuzukeru")

Page 119: "'Strongest in history', 'genius', et cetera, the words used to describe the Third Hokage." (「„歴代最強”„天才”など、三代� �� �� �� �� �� ��火影を形容する言葉は賞賛に満�� �� �� �� � �て いる。」, "'Rekidai saikyō' 'tensai' nado, Sandaime Hokage o keiyōsuru kotoba wa shōsan ni michite iru.")

Page 265: "The Third is called the strongest, even among the past Hokage, and he is even admired as the 'God of Shinobi'." (「三代目は歴代火影の中でも最強と� �� �� �� �� �� ��われ、„忍の神”と謳われたこ�� �� �� �� � �も 。」, "Sandaime wa rekidai Hokage no naka demo saikyō to iware, 'Shinobi no Kami' to utawareta koto mo")

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[Exaar]

Re: Tsunades shock shows that hashirama > hiruzen

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Oh god:sy:

Do you lack a brain or something?, A>B doesn't mean A>C.

Just because hiruzen can beat hashirama doesn't mean he automatically beats Madara.

 

[TouchMyMangos]

Re: Tsunades shock shows that hashirama > hiruzen

Ahaha, SasukeTheViper EMS thinks the manga is wrong. What a joke.

 

[Zato]

Re: Tsunades shock shows that hashirama > hiruzen

Didn't Kabuto say that Hashirama's powers were said to be a myth because of how unbelievable they were? People are just living by there own times and what they see in front of them. It's like boxing and how people say a certain fighter in this era is the best of all time but the people who actually lived in the past that has seen the best back then and compare them to the best now say otherwise. It basically goes back to what Kabuto was referring to about the SO6P and Hashirama's powers and why Madara and Hashirama are said to be the 2 strongest ninjas to ever live thus far.

 

[KamuiShiryu]

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^^yes^^

what people need to understand is that kishi is making this up as it goes!!!!! He didn't know Hishi was going to have Wood Release: Advent of a World of Flowering Trees. IF he did He would have Gave Hiruzen something to Counter it..... sense he himself has stated that Hiruzen was the strongest....

Plus like i said earlier Dont compare edo Madara to Hishirama. Kabuto said himself he upgraded him by adding Hishirama DNA

 

[SasukeTheViper EMS]

Re: Tsunades shock shows that hashirama > hiruzen

Oh god:sy:

Do you lack a brain or something?, A>B doesn't mean A>C.

Just because hiruzen can beat hashirama doesn't mean he automatically beats Madara.

you missed the point .. what I'm saying is ....was there any threats/villains around when Hiruzen was Hokage ?? no , Orochimaru was the only possible threat ...and yet Orochimaru completely owned him ..hiruzen couldn't even seal Orochimaru completely

, and Orochimaru's power can't even be compared to madara's power ..therefore I'm right ...and btw. Hiruzen is sealed and completely irrelevant now ..so for Godsakes stop making threads about how he is > than everybody

 

[SasukeTheViper EMS]

Re: Tsunades shock shows that hashirama > hiruzen

Ahaha, SasukeTheViper EMS thinks the manga is wrong. What a joke.

hahahaha , you're the real joke for not getting what I'm saying ...I'm obviously not saying the manga is wrong , but Kishi saying that doesn't make any sense ...and notice how that page is from the earliest of early chapters , and strenght is proven in this manga by what you did in your life as a shinobi ..The only actual threat that Hiruzen faced in the entire manga during his period as a Hokage was Orochimaru ..and Orochimaru still owned him ..

Kishi doesn't necessarily mean that Hiruzen is the Strongest hokage in "Power" .

 

[Exaar]

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you missed the point .. what I'm saying is ....was there any threats/villains around when Hiruzen was Hokage ?? no , Orochimaru was the only possible threat ...and yet Orochimaru completely owned him ..hiruzen couldn't even seal Orochimaru completely

, and Orochimaru's power can't even be compared to madara's power ..therefore I'm right ...and btw. Hiruzen is sealed and completely irrelevant now ..so for Godsakes stop making threads about how he is > than everybody

Again, Hiruzen was old and Past him prime, and far weaker in his old Age, So Oro beating a much weakend hiruzen doesn't prove anything.

Also Oro had his Arms/His jutsu's taken away from him and he lost the two most powerful Edo tensei's he had.
I don't call that "Completely owning", he almost died.

 

[TouchMyMangos]

Re: Tsunades shock shows that hashirama > hiruzen

hahahaha , you're the real joke for not getting what I'm saying ...I'm obviously not saying the manga is wrong , but Kishi saying that doesn't make any sense ...and notice how that page is from the earliest of early chapters , and strenght is proven in this manga by what you did in your life as a shinobi ..The only actual threat that Hiruzen faced in the entire manga during his period as a Hokage was Orochimaru ..and Orochimaru still owned him ..

Kishi doesn't necessarily mean that Hiruzen is the Strongest hokage in "Power" .

What part of Prime Hiruzen are you struggling to understand?

 

[Owarij]

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^^yes^^

what people need to understand is that kishi is making this up as it goes!!!!! He didn't know Hishi was going to have Wood Release: Advent of a World of Flowering Trees. IF he did He would have Gave Hiruzen something to Counter it..... sense he himself has stated that Hiruzen was the strongest....

Plus like i said earlier Dont compare edo Madara to Hishirama. Kabuto said himself he upgraded him by adding Hishirama DNA

kishi isn't making it up as he goes... He even said he had almost the entire story planned out already.. though he makes few tweaks..


What fking writer makes up a story as he goes?

 

[SasukeTheViper EMS]

Re: Tsunades shock shows that hashirama > hiruzen

Again, Hiruzen was old and Past him prime, and far weaker in his old Age, So Oro beating a much weakend hiruzen doesn't prove anything.

Also Oro had his Arms/His jutsu's taken away from him and he lost the two most powerful Edo tensei's he had.
I don't call that "Completely owning", he almost died.

ok ...name one other Strong shinobi ..that Hiruzen faced to deserve to be called " The Strongest Hokage " :sy:

 

[SasukeTheViper EMS]

Re: Tsunades shock shows that hashirama > hiruzen

What part of Prime Hiruzen are you struggling to understand?

name one Legit enemy/threat , this Prime Hiruzen has faced when he was in his Prime

 

[Exaar]

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ok ...name one other Strong shinobi ..that Hiruzen faced to deserve to be called " The Strongest Hokage " :sy:

What would that even Prove?.

The manga stated he is the strongest, So do the databooks, What more proof do you need?.

 

[TheSages456]

Re: Tsunades shock shows that hashirama > hiruzen

Oh god:sy:

Do you lack a brain or something?, A>B doesn't mean A>C.

Just because hiruzen can beat hashirama doesn't mean he automatically beats Madara.

when its been said that hiruzen surpassed the people that came before him, it can be guessed that he surpassed them in all areas. but it turns out that madara>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>hiruzen

 

[TouchMyMangos]

Re: Tsunades shock shows that hashirama > hiruzen

name one Legit enemy/threat , this Prime Hiruzen has faced when he was in his Prime

Ask Kishi. He called him the strongest. If you deny this, you are denying the manga; YOU are saying the manga is wrong. Nuff said.

 

[Untitled]

Re: Tsunades shock shows that hashirama > hiruzen

Hashi is the only one that can defeat madara because hes fought him many times, of course he knows his weaknesses and knows how to fight him. Common sense.

 

[Yo pappy]

Re: Tsunades shock shows that hashirama > hiruzen

All hype aside, now seeing what Hashirama had to go up against in Madara I have a hard time believing Hiruzen is that high up on the pyramid. Madara hands down is obviously a much tougher opponent for anyone in comparison to Hiruzen (prime or not) in my personal opinion, and the fact that Hashirama had to subdue Kurama in the midst of all this chaos is just the icing on the cake. It doesn't matter how much knowledge you have, sometimes raw power is all you need, and even then it's not like Hashirama was an idiot herp derp.