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Re: databook is flawed and overhypes characters ( hiruzen )

databook is retarded. how can a shinobi's power be rated with numbers. that's fail on its own right there.....

"derp, well if speed=4 and strength=5, then his overall power is obviously 9! derp"

^ fukin really?WTH
 
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i love how people just ignore what kishi writes or says lol god damn fan boys that is all
 

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i love how people just ignore what kishi writes or says lol god damn fan boys that is all
so everything Kishi writes on paper are the words of a god? he's human too, he's made plenty of mistakes throughout this manga. although, he's done very well not making as many mistakes as some other manga artists.
 

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Re: databook is flawed and overhypes characters ( hiruzen )

i am relaxed,and i can fly if i imagine enough xd

the manga and databook both said hiruzen WAS SAID TO BE THE STRONGEST HOKAGE it doesnt directly say HE IS the strongest hokage.

theirs a difference between WAS SAID TO BE and HE IS
Bold part: *sigh* Let's move on from that topic:|

Underline part:
It was never once stated by anyone in the manga or the databooks that Hashirama was the the strongest, in fact it has always specifically stated that he was the strongest in his time!
 
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Bold part: *sigh* Let's move on from that topic:|

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It was never once stated by anyone in the manga or the databooks that Hashirama was the the strongest, in fact it has always specifically stated that he was the strongest in his time!
yes.

what im saying hiruzen>hashirama is false.
 

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WHOA!!! this dude HAS to be a troll. How can you go against what the AUTHOR says? hahaha. If I were to come up with a new series names chulubos and I say that the yellow chulubo is the strongest of all the chulubos even though I give little evidence to this, how can you, a fan, a mere READER, dear to argue that FACT just because the blue chulubo is your favorite? I am the god of the chulubo universe. What I say goes. Even if its against YOUR desires. hahaha. What kishi says goes. Don't like it. DONT READ IT. nobody is forcing you. the manga and the databooks are cannon. So you either agree or disagree but sooner or later you have to accept them as facts. if we stopped believing what the manga and databook says, what's the purpose of reading? If kishi were to write that madaras new susano makes him fart volcanoes and burp hurricanes I WILL BELIEVE!!!.. hahaha. troll
 

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yes.

what im saying hiruzen>hashirama is false.
But you don't have anything to base that claim off of. You're just assuming that Kishi has changed his mind and that the databooks are wrong, just because we've seen Hashirama's power recently and not Hiruzen's.
 
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WHOA!!! this dude HAS to be a troll. How can you go against what the AUTHOR says? hahaha. If I were to come up with a new series names chulubos and I say that the yellow chulubo is the strongest of all the chulubos even though I give little evidence to this, how can you, a fan, a mere READER, dear to argue that FACT just because the blue chulubo is your favorite? I am the god of the chulubo universe. What I say goes. Even if its against YOUR desires. hahaha. What kishi says goes. Don't like it. DONT READ IT. nobody is forcing you. the manga and the databooks are cannon. So you either agree or disagree but sooner or later you have to accept them as facts. if we stopped believing what the manga and databook says, what's the purpose of reading? If kishi were to write that madaras new susano makes him fart volcanoes and burp hurricanes I WILL BELIEVE!!!.. hahaha. troll
ok tobi must be madara since kishi said he is. the madara that came out the coffin is ramen guy right? :confused:
 
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But you don't have anything to base that claim off of. You're just assuming that Kishi has changed his mind and that the databooks are wrong, just because we've seen Hashirama's power recently and not Hiruzen's.
i do have stuff to back up that claim.

1. everyone knows its a known fact that kishi contradicts himself and makes mistakes sometimes. is it not?

2.funny thing is im using the manga and databook as proof, once again the databook and manga said hiruzen WAS SAID TO BE THE STRONGEST HOKAGE hint hint WAS SAID TO BE DOESNT MEEN HE ACTUALLY WAS

when someone saids ''was said to be'' to describe someone their giving them praise and reputation.

that doesnt meen hiruzen is the strongest hokage.
 

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WHOA!!! this dude HAS to be a troll. How can you go against what the AUTHOR says? hahaha. If I were to come up with a new series names chulubos and I say that the yellow chulubo is the strongest of all the chulubos even though I give little evidence to this, how can you, a fan, a mere READER, dear to argue that FACT just because the blue chulubo is your favorite? I am the god of the chulubo universe. What I say goes. Even if its against YOUR desires. hahaha. What kishi says goes. Don't like it. DONT READ IT. nobody is forcing you. the manga and the databooks are cannon. So you either agree or disagree but sooner or later you have to accept them as facts. if we stopped believing what the manga and databook says, what's the purpose of reading? If kishi were to write that madaras new susano makes him fart volcanoes and burp hurricanes I WILL BELIEVE!!!.. hahaha. troll
this whole paragraph is pure ignorance and hate at its finest. Kishi is human like I've said before. to keep track of every detail in this series would be far too difficult. Even though he does a great job. he hyped Hiruzen in part 1, but in part 2, he's hyped Hashirama as being someone comparable to So6P. That's one of Kishi's biggest contradictories right there.

if he was as strong as Kishi talks about him in part 2. then when Orochimaru summoned him in part 1 the fight would've been over in like .5 seconds, no?
 
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this whole paragraph is pure ignorance and hate at its finest. Kishi is human like I've said before. to keep track of every detail in this series would be far too difficult. Even though he does a great job. he hyped Hiruzen in part 1, but in part 2, he's hyped Hashirama as being someone comparable to So6P. That's one of Kishi's biggest contradictories right there.
exactly.
 

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ffs wat were we talking about again, im replying to alot of plp losing track :noc:
All of the Third Kage's being the strongest of their respective villages

EDIT: I see, I knew this was someone's alt, now I know I'm actually talking to Prince Charles. Anyways I still want to know your opinion
 
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I would just like to point out that in the first chapter of the manga, iruka (the same man who said hiruzen was the strongest hokage) stated that naruto may very well surpass all previous hokage... after witnessing one mass shadow clone jutsu. First issue. His quote about hiruzen doesn't mean jack shit anymore but you hiruzen fans can cling to that as long as you want i guess.
 

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Come on guys, he was called the strongest by iruka. Probably the weakest teacher in the village an he wasn't even alive when the 1st was. My point he doesnt know shit about the first. Kabuto an madara both said their were no ninja's after that could compare to him. AN THEY BOTH HAVE WAY MORE CREDIBILITY THAN IRUKA. The third said that the 4th would never be surpassed, also someone with waaaay more credibility. An zetsu said itachi was invincible, also way more credibility. An tobi said that pain was invincible. WAY more credible. So why the he'll is everyone listening to like the weakest ninja in the leaf villiage!?!?
 

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this whole paragraph is pure ignorance and hate at its finest. Kishi is human like I've said before. to keep track of every detail in this series would be far too difficult. Even though he does a great job. he hyped Hiruzen in part 1, but in part 2, he's hyped Hashirama as being someone comparable to So6P. That's one of Kishi's biggest contradictories right there.

if he was as strong as Kishi talks about him in part 2. then when Orochimaru summoned him in part 1 the fight would've been over in like .5 seconds, no?
Dude.. what are you twelve or something? Of course kishi makes mistakes. But the plot still stays the same. just because he IS human doesn't mean that the whole series is flawed. take a look at this:



but the plot hasn't changed one bit. what we saw was an OLD, I repeat OLD hiruzen. we haven't seen his prime. Who knows. kishi might include him in a flashback sometime. we HAVENT seen SO6P in action either. its all hype but the premise still stands. the sage of six paths is the strongest of them all and hiruzen was the strongest of the kages. hashi was the strongest of his time. minato was to surpass them all but didn't, because he died and naruto will eventually surpass them all. he is very close to surpassing his father. have you seen his clones? Old hiruzen made two clones in his old age. kakashi makes 1 clone and is already bawling for chakra. What else do you want? an explanation on how making two clones in an advance age is something worthy of praise? check this out:



Because of the manner in which the clones are created, the user must divide their chakra among the clones, potentially using up all their chakra fairly quickly if the user is low on chakra or makes too many clones.
 
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