How ironic that you accuse others of being a fanboy/hater when you are the equivalent of one. You have done nothing but degrade and hate on Hiruzen, despite what the author of this series tells us.
Let me tell you how Hiruzen can beat Minato, It’s quite simply actually, Hiruzen sarutobi was said to be the strongest hokage ever, which includes your hero Minato. Rather obvious eh? I clearly remember you are arguing the fact that Itachi was stronger than Madara, of course until recently, when you suddenly changed your tune (I wonder why?). You should have believed the manga, when it stated that Madara was the strongest uchiha ever. Same goes for Shisui’s genjutsu skills. A character can be proven not trustworthy (like Tobi), and if that happens you have an automatically right to question everything he says in the future, but until then the statements made in the manga stand.
Now you don’t seem slow, so I can’t fathom how you can claim, as a fact, that Hiruzen doesn’t have a counter to FTG, when we know for a fact that Hiruzen mastered every technique in Konoha .
It was also said in the latest official fan book that he had a counter to every tech, including the EMS.
Abscense of evidence is not evidence of abscense.It is not my job to prove that he can (I have both the manga and databook as sources), no it is your job…and until proven otherwise he can utilize all those techs (that aren’t KG’s). You can’t just say that he doesn’t know a clan’s secret technique without backing it up with pages from the manga. You’re merely speculating, which means that you are on the wrong side of the argument. Besides, you don’t need to have an affinity for an element to use it; it just takes more out of you.
Nin Intelligence Fuinjutsu Taijutsu Strenght Genjutsu Speed STA
5 5 5 5 3 5 3 3
He had 5’s in everything that wasn’t affected by age, and we know for a fact that his skills diminished via the colorful commentary from Anbu, Enma, Orchimaru and Hiruzen himself.
Instead of praising Hiruzen for being a beast for, in his prime, ranking over guys like the third raikage, Onoki and Yagura (who are all amazing) you go the other route and question Kishi, which is absurd. Kishi is very careful with his statements, and he had plenty of opportunities to declare a new strongest Kage during this war arc, but he didn’t. Instead he said things like “the third raikage was stronger than all the raikage’s before him”. See the distinction?
Can you dispute any of this? Not with some speculative BS but
actual facts? I thought so…
Hiruzen was trained by Hashirama and Tobirama and produced the legendary sannin, while Minato taught a bunch of nobodies. Kakashi being the strongest and we have all seen his limits as a shinobi. Obito who? Are we talking about the worst uchiha kid we have seen? Ryn…run…rin? What’s her name? I think you catch my drift….
Hiruzen had no KG, or special modes like SM, so obviously his prime was in his youth (limited window) when he could utilize his massive chakra reserves and brilliant mind to use all his techniques. How hard is that to understand? He was retired when fox attacked, meaning he wasn’t the strongest in the village anymore. He chased the kyuubi away (he was the leader), and he somehow survived a tail beast bomb since he proclaimed “never again”. Finally his biggest accomplishment was that he became the longest sitting hokage in history, while maintaining konoha’s position as nr 1 villag.
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I back up my sh!t, do you? U_U