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Owarij said:
The smart minato fanboys iv'e met have all said, Minato and Hiruzen tie for number 1 spot, and hmmph , Why not... But when you go and say minato>hiruzen, there I have a problem
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ohh... i ll take ur arguments seriously ..... and i take back my words as minato being stronger than hiruzen....
so my opinion now is minato is as strong as prime hiruzen if not stronger.....
(i had to acknowledge this since u said that some smart people and yeah m def smart...:p:p:p:p:p:p:p)
 
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Ultimatevirus said:
ummm??? oro easily killed the fourth???? lol.... he killed fourth with the help of kimimaru......

naruto can beat tsunade agreed.... but see the difference naruto is the main character so he has to be able to defeat tsunade but i cant see sasori being the main character.....
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WHAT? Lmao kimmiamaro help? I Would love to see the chapter where orochimaru said me and kimmaro killed the fourth... stop speculating crap...

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For the Fourth kazekage to know that , Oro must have tested out The edos on him, before going and using them on hiruzen...


Noone else knew oro could use that technique... well other than possibly kabuto....

So no, the fourth most likely wasn't that weak, But against 2 hokages + oro , there is nothing you can do
 
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Owarij said:
WHAT? Lmao kimmiamaro help? I Would love to see the chapter where orochimaru said me and kimmaro killed the fourth... stop speculating bull crap...

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For the Fourth kazekage to know that , he must have tested out The edos on him, before going and using them on hiruzen...
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no speculation .... i saw it in the anime i dont remmber exactly where but its somewhere when kimimaru is shown in oro's base where kimimaru was ill and cursing himself that he couldnt be the shell for oro...
 
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Ultimatevirus said:
no speculation .... i saw it in the anime i dont remmber exactly where but its somewhere when kimimaru is shown in oro's base where kimimaru was ill and cursing himself that he couldnt be the shell for oro...
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I updated my last post btw, I Had put in the wrong pic

And i think you are talking about the shot where oro killed fourth with a finishing blow, i believe only in the anime you saw kabuto and kimmamaro there, but they weren't in the manga, so not cannon, i'll have to verify (Maybe later,gonna go sleep now) Or you could be talking about when oro said "If kimiamaro was here, the attack on konoha would have went much smoother" ?

Also Orochimaru had to have used edo to test on him, because there would be no way Fourth could know that... , noone knew orochimaru had that tech untill he revealed it to hiruzen...
 
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Owarij said:
I updated my last post btw, I Had put in the wrong pic

And i think you are talking about the shot where oro killed fourth with a finishing blow, i believe only in the anime you saw kabuto and kimmamaro there, but they weren't in the manga, so not cannon, i'll have to verify (Maybe later,gonna go sleep now) Or you could be talking about when oro said "If kimiamaro was here, the attack on konoha would have went much smoother" ?

Also Orochimaru had to have used edo to test on him, because there would be no way Fourth could know that... , noone knew orochimaru had that tech untill he revealed it to hiruzen...
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no m sure it was stated something like kimimaru helped oro kill forth kazekage....
 
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melvin008 said:
stamina is useless against speed forget about hiruzen's prime i posted the thread about hiruzen vs minato not hiruzen's prime vs minato
come to think of it minato never got to his own prime too coz he didn't achieve what he had in mind he wanted to infuse elemental chakra with the rasengan which he didn't acomplish...he could't learn the sage mode stuff ...to top it all he created two deadly justu infact it was three being the the demon god summoning the rasengan and the flying thunder god technique...all hiruzen did was to master other people's technique and of what use is knowing every technique when you can't actively use them in battle minato fought against bijuu and A together he also managed to seal the almighty kyuubi by his own hiruzen didn't have the gut to seal orochimaru after sealing too dummies...minato is the boss
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Agreed thats so true!!
 
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itachiamaterasu said:
minato would beat 3rd hokage, even the 3rd hokage knows minato is stronger, that's why when the kyuubi attacked from tobi's work, he stated to wait for minato.
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I agree.minato and hiruzen are not comparable.esp.when the very theme of naruto is that pupil surpasses the teacher.i can cite multiple examples.jiraiya was never able to activate a true sage mode while naruto did.WAIT!i think their is not a single case when pupil(the best one) does not surpass the teacher.plus minato being able to defeat a guy with very powerful space time ninjutsu and very powerful tailed beast and very powerful intangibility technique has the upper hand naturally.i think old and deceased people are overrated.(minato stays outta this since he's shown his skills).hashirama was told to be "the epic village founding madara slaying kyuubi controlling kage."but did he turned out to be THAT strong?NO.(which makes me feel madara lost deliberately to him)plus minato has STB and dynamic creation of rasengan as a feather in his cap.he is on a different level so no good comparing him and hiruzen.
 
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It would be a tie or else minato will win...in case u forgot about his flying thunder god jutsu....he will use it.
I say minato will win, eventually
 

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I agree.minato and hiruzen are not comparable.esp.when the very theme of naruto is that pupil surpasses the teacher.i can cite multiple examples.jiraiya was never able to activate a true sage mode while naruto did.WAIT!i think their is not a single case when pupil(the best one) does not surpass the teacher.plus minato being able to defeat a guy with very powerful space time ninjutsu and very powerful tailed beast and very powerful intangibility technique has the upper hand naturally.i think old and deceased people are overrated.(minato stays outta this since he's shown his skills).hashirama was told to be "the epic village founding madara slaying kyuubi controlling kage."but did he turned out to be THAT strong?NO.(which makes me feel madara lost deliberately to him)plus minato has STB and dynamic creation of rasengan as a feather in his cap.he is on a different level so no good comparing him and hiruzen.
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haha this so true i remember when he was fighting orochimaru, as soon as he saw the 4th coffin coming up this guy almost shit himself
he was so relieved minato didnt come out else he knows the battle would be over for him
 
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