madara never said rinnegan alne wouldnt control gedo.
Why dont you stop ignoring the third sentence,even the first dsent say what you are saying.
He said that without senju and uchiha power you cant awaken the rinnegan,and then followed it up by saying you cant control gedo properly,it dosent say that rinnegan cant control it properly,it just says that the rinnegan cant awaken without the dna's,the third sentece contradicts you further,ir clearly says that EVEN without the rinnegan,you can still use the gedo with the DNAs,he never said it would be proper or not,so yes,nagato with a rinnegan can use gdo quite well,madara clearly showed that the rinnegan can control the gedo,but uchiha and senju dna can acr as a substitute,the third sentence clearly demacates the two,madara never said the rinnegan isnt enough at all. Whats your definition of not being able to control gedo?,cuz nagato has been using gedo freely,so using it to attack is easy. When he said that EVEN without the rinnegan tobi could still use the mazo,that proves that the rinnegan could perfectly control the mazo.
:sy: I feel like I'm talking to a child.
-Only Rinnegan can summon Gedo Mazo. Manga FACT.
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-Rinnegan can't be awakened without Senju and Uchiha's power.
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-Gedo can't be controlled properly without Senju and Uchiha's power.
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-Obito can properly control the Gedo due to having Senju and Uchiha's power, but can't summon it due to lacking the Rinnegan.
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Without Senju and Uchiha's power you can't awaken the Rinnegan. Furthermore you can't control the Statue well"
What the hell do you think that sentence means? Furthermore is a continuation of his original statement. It has the same function as and here. Open your damn eyes and read the damn scan.
His sentence is in two parts.
-Without the powers you can't control the Mazo properly.
-Without the powers you can't awaken the Rinnegan.
Basic grammar is basic.
Its already a fact that without Senju and Uchiha's power you can't control the Mazo. Undisputable. Madara already stated it. Anymore you have to add on this point is pure garbage.
When you can show me scans of Nagato using the Mazo in battle then you can use it for this debate. Until then. Learn how to read. Re-read those manga scans and stop wasting my time.
He never said to say if the control was proper or not as his first statement already solidifies the fact that Senju and Uchiha power is needed to control the Mazo. Learn how to read. Madara saying that Senju and Uchiha power is needed to control the Mazo properly is FACT. Stop dismissing his first statement cause it foils your petty argument.
LOL what?,madara attacked hashi several times with his sword,once,hashi caught it with a wood arm,just before he tried to grab his susanoo,and the shockwaves did squat. The shockwaves have never hurt anyone at all.
Making shit up I see. There were no shockwaves there, re-read the manga.
The shockwaves did this.
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Devastated a distant Mountain Range. You saying they won't hurt anybody just because you don't want them to isn't going to cut it.
Kirin is a mountain buster,though not a large one,c3 would easily blow aside a mountain,even jraiya's ultra big ball rasengan can apparently hollow out a mountain,rasenshuriken sliced through mountains in mount myoubouku IIRC,a mountain buster isnt all that great
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would destroy a mountain,shuusinsenju's attacks didnt knock madara or hashi down,despite creating VOTE,whats tour point?.
Kirin is not a Mountain Buster cause the Mountain was still intact.
Ultra Big Ball Rasengan is not a Mountain Buster.
FRS cut Mountains. That isn't a Mountain Buster.
TBB
VAPORIZES MOUNTAINS. That's just the standard TBB from Bijuus 2-7. 100% Kyuubi's TBB is stronger and bigger than the ones used by Obito's Jins.
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Kirin is nowhere near Bijuu Dama's level of destruction. Kirin is at most a hill buster as it destroyed the Uchiha hideout part of the Mountain but the whole Mountain wasn't reduced to rubble nor was it vaporized.
Vaporizing a Mountain far surpasses anything you mentioned up here. Including Destroying a village.
Nagato wanted to destroy the village,which he did,the others just got caught up, a tbb would never spread that far and cause that damage,reaching the ends of konoha,if that budha hit his arms spread out,he would never destroy konoha.
Again using large AoE attacks to justify strength. Mountains have far more durability and are much more dense than Villages which consist of buldings. I don't know if the bold is supposed to be an excuse for CST not killing people like Tsunade and Fodder Anbus despite them being unprotected, but it happened so oh well.
Knoha crater is bigger than VOTE;a focused CST packs more power than budha puches,you claim a mountain buster is above a city buster,yet somehow aomething that made VOTE oblitereated susanoo whereas the moutain buster did squat.
The bold is something you pulled out of your arse. A focused CST isn't doing squat to Susnaoo. Not when a spread out version failed to kill Fodder Anbu's and an unprotected Tsunade.
To destroy strong defenses you need powerful precision attacks. Not Wide AoE attacks. At the very most PS is only taking little damage which can be recovered from.
Absorbing susanoo is child's playthe shockwaves are sent back at madara,CT crushes madara,especially after nagato adds all the chakra he sucks from kyubi's tbb to it.
Wank Wank Wank.
Kyuubi's roar sends Nagato and on his ass if ever tries and gets close to Madara. If he blocks that with ST then the shockwave fodderizes him.
CT is nuked by Bijuu Dama or destroyed by PS Sword Slashes. Nagato isn't absorbing Bijuu Dama that are being dragged up by CT's gravitational pull on top of its normal speed.
