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"You can't awaken Rinnegan without Senju and Uchiha DNA,
furthermore you can't handle the Mazo properly."
This sentence obviously means that without Senju and Uchiha DNA you can't awaken the Rinnegan and you cant handle the Mazo properly without it. Nagato can't control the Mazo properly. Manga
FACT.
He said that without Rinnegan he can still control the Mazo. Without both powers you can't control it
properly Never said that you can't control it at all. Rinnegan allows you to control the Mazo but you can't control it as well as someone who has Senju and Uchiha DNA.
Manga said he can't control it properly not that he can't control it at all. Therefore he doesn't get Obito's Gedo control feats.
Wrong. Nagato poured his full power into that move as he had to deactivate the rest of his paths. It won't be any stronger. The CST that failed to get past Mini Katsuyu clones isn't going to do anything to PS.
@bold: Proof of CST being able to destroy PS?
Bold is never going to happen as CST isn't destroying Susanoo. That's a completely baseless assumption you pulled out of your arse. Baseless assumption is baseless as usual.
Not really. Why would he be focused on something that can't hurt him?
Scans of the bold?
PS Sword shockwaves fodderize Nagato.
if ou mean nagato cant have gedo seal up several bijuus like tobi,there is no problem,but if you say nagato,cant have gedo attack anyone,then thats BS.
From your scans,madara simply stated 2 or 3 things,
- that senju and uchiha power are needed to awaken the rinnegan
- without awakening the rinnegan,you cant control gedo properly
- if you have both senju and uchiha dna however,you can use gedo without the rinnegan.
Madara never said that you cant cntrol gedo properly if you have only the rinnegan,which in itself,consists of both uchha and senju power.
When he told tobi that he could control the gedo,he told him that he could still use it withoyt the rinnegan,which simly means that the rinnegan can control the gedo.
Uchoha and senju DNZ are needed because when they are both joined together,the rinnegan would be awakened,once the rinnegan is awakened,then the user can control gedo,translanting the eyes to another person,who is an uzumaki and a blood relation of the senju wont remove that gift,rather the only thing is that it would probably take more chakra to use it than normal,the sharingan and byakugan dont loose their abilities when transplanted,the sharingan cmes from the rinnegan,why would the rinnegan loose any ppwer when transplanted?.
Izanagi requires both uchiha and senju DNA,danzo gained senju dna through hashi's cells,how did he gain uchiha dna?,it was through the sharingan,the same happens with the rinnegan,it is awakened by the senju uchiha power,when it is transplanted,what dna do you think is in the eye?.
Once more,madara said that "even without the rinnegan you can still use the mazo",the word EVEN,notes the need of the rinnegan to use the gedo.
Manga shows that with the other eyes,transplants only mean more chakra to use,madara told tobi that he could use gedo even without awakening the rinnegan since he had both DNAs,the rinnegan posseses both the senju and uchoha power,just like the sharingan posseses just the uchiha power.
Even if nagato cant use gedo like tobi,it is baseless to say he cant use it in a fight.
Naruto already said his abilities were above pains,and he faced deva when all the pther pahs were beaten as well. Nagato was using chakra to control deva,deva also needed to come close to nagatro to use CT,if he was using nagato's full power,he would not need to. Naruto said nagato's moves were a whole other level compared to pain.no discussion.
Even if it's the same,
hashirama's focused punched simply resulted in VOTE,nagato's wide spread attack resulted in konoha being turned into a crater,konoha is much bigger than VOTE. If nagato dos a focused CST,PS is in pieces.
Katsuya also tabked CT when it was sucked in,when naruto said that if it sucked them in they would all die,this was said when h had a susanoo and a full bijuu as allies,so using the slug as a comparison is baseless,it took naruto's 8tk cloak easily while also handling CT.
Konoha is much bigger than VOTE,and a focused attack of CST would easily trump madara. PS shockwave is deflected ight back at madara by an ST,while the susanoo sword is absorbed,this refuelling nagato. Even without gedo,he still takes it
Proof that the dog can fuse back?,it divided against j-man,when he summoned it against naruto it was fused,it divided against naruto and was fused again when summoned against km naruto. Is that magic?