[VS] Healthy Itachi(MS) vs Mobile Nagato(Rinnegan)

Who will win?

  • Itachi

    Votes: 17 32.1%
  • Nagato

    Votes: 36 67.9%

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Nagato has both uchiha/senju in him.

OT: nagato wins

How does Nagato have either? Perhaps the Senju DNA since the Uzumaki are distant relatives, but he's not an Uchiha.
 

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Nagato has both uchiha/senju in him.

OT: nagato wins

Lol the fvck no

He has no Uchiha in him whatsoever :|

If he was Uchiha, he would have a sharingan but he doesn't.

He wouldn't of had Gedo mazou's black rod shoved up his___

Permanently damaging him for life.
 

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Obviously you didn't read everything I posted. And if you did, scroll back to reread them. I stated exactly how Itachi counters everything. And btw, Itachi actually DOESN'T need Nagato to stare into his eyes for him to cast a Genjutsu :)

No, I didn't.

Hungry Ghost / Shinra Tensei > Amaterasu
Hungry Ghost / Chibaku Tensei > Susanoo
Shinra Tensei > Totsuka
Bansho Tennin > Yata
Summon spam > Itachi's chakra
Disruption Spikes > Itachi's chakra control/body control

You mean genjutsu using handseals? Yes, I forgot, Kurenai and Shii could totally one-shot Nagato too.

Lol the fvck no

He has no Uchiha in him whatsoever :|

If he was Uchiha, he would have a sharingan but he doesn't.

He wouldn't of had Gedo mazou's black rod shoved up his___

Permanently damaging him for life.

Umm... he has Madara's eyes, that means he has Uchiha in him.
 

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No, I didn't.

Hungry Ghost / Shinra Tensei > Amaterasu
Hungry Ghost / Chibaku Tensei > Susanoo
Shinra Tensei > Totsuka
Bansho Tennin > Yata
Summon spam > Itachi's chakra
Disruption Spikes > Itachi's chakra control/body control

You mean genjutsu using handseals? Yes, I forgot, Kurenai and Shii could totally one-shot Nagato too.



Umm... he has Madara's eyes, that means he has Uchiha in him.

What makes me laugh is that everything Nagato has is Madara's. Without him he'd LITERALLY be nothing.

You can state something is better than something else easily. The trouble is proving it. Saying this is better than that with NOTHING to prove it only makes you look stupid.
 

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No, I didn't.

Hungry Ghost / Shinra Tensei > Amaterasu
Hungry Ghost / Chibaku Tensei > Susanoo
Shinra Tensei > Totsuka
Bansho Tennin > Yata
Summon spam > Itachi's chakra
Disruption Spikes > Itachi's chakra control/body control

You mean genjutsu using handseals? Yes, I forgot, Kurenai and Shii could totally one-shot Nagato too.



Umm... he has Madara's eyes, that means he has Uchiha in him.

Uhm Kakashi had Obito's eyes, is there Uchiha inside Kakashi?

No

He wouldn't of been one-shotted by Tsukyomi in part 1

So is there Uchiha blood/DNA in Nagato?

Hell No... :|
 
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Lol the fvck no

He has no Uchiha in him whatsoever :|

If he was Uchiha, he would have a sharingan but he doesn't.

He wouldn't of had Gedo mazou's black rod shoved up his___

Permanently damaging him for life.
I never said he was an uchihani said he had their dna,just like how madara and danzo have senju dna. But re not senju.
He dosent have a sharingan becuse it evolved to the rinnegan before he got it. He has the eyes of madara giving him uchiha dna,which is how danzo got uchiha dna too,he stole the eyes of uchihas.

Gedo had no bijuu to give it chakra to use the soul dragon,so nagato used his own


How does Nagato have either? Perhaps the Senju DNA since the Uzumaki are distant relatives, but he's not an Uchiha.

Yes he is from the senju bloodline and posseses the eyes of an uchiha,giving him both DNAs
 

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You know, besides Itachi's eye bleeding, which always happens before Amaterasu is cast, and Kabuto wondering what the hell was going on the very next page. But keep on ignoring that.
So, to you, Nagato can only predict what jutsu Itachi is going to cast by seeing whether or not his eye bleeds? Genius!

No, that was not the point I was making at all. You said there was no proof that Kabuto was making Itachi use Amaterasu before KA came into play, the above was in response to that. We already know that Nagato can sense Amaterasu without needing to look at Itachi's eyes because he was behind Itachi when it was about to be used.

Nagato controls his summons only if Itachi permits it. Itachi was able to control a Dragon Sage who trained at the legendary Ryuchi Cave. I think he can control a bird and a dog. I already supplied evidence that Itachi can do so in the previous comments and panels. If you care to ignore that, it's not my problem.

... Your "evidence" depends entirely on the requirement that Nagato's summons fall for Itachi's genjutsu in order to be under his control. Again, with knowledge, Nagato is not going to let his summons look into Itachi's eyes (something easily done seeing that he controls them with chakra rods much like how he controls the Paths), which means they'll be safe from being controlled. The part of the post you quoted even highlights that, yet you bring someone who was caught in a genjutsu already as "evidence"?

And that's not getting into the fact that even if Itachi gets one of Nagato's many summons into a genjutsu (in other words, the bull, the rhino, crab, chameleon, centipede aka much more than just a bird and a dog), there is no guarantee that his control over them supersedes Nagato's control through the Rinnegan and chakra rods. Even if it does, Nagato simply cancels the summon.


The state of Sasuke's MS eyes are irrelevant to whether Susano'o pains him or not. He complained about the pain of maintaining just the ribcage whilst he was fighting Mei, and he was in so much pain against Danzo that his Susano'o reverted to a lower stage. Therefore Itachi will be in pain if he uses Susano'o constantly (so much pain it'll cause him to revert from its higher levels), which he needs in order to defend against Nagato's attacks.

Probably one of the stupidest comments I've read thus far. The state of a Sharingan user's eyes has all the relevancy in the WORLD. Sasuke had JUST gotten his MS and had literally NO idea how to use it. He went up against the 5 Kage and thensome, so how can you not expect him, a new MS Sharingan user, to feel pain? He was even surprised that he felt it.

Look at the links provided again. Every time Sasuke complained about the pain of using Susano'o nowhere did he state that it was because he was just starting out with MS. Hell, nowhere in the manga is it stated that the pain from using Susano'o is dependent on the state of your MS. If anything, the implication is that it gets worse the more forms you unlock, as seen with Sasuke failing to maintain his most recent version (at that time) against Danzo, a link I also provided.

The only one saying that there must be some link to the pain of using Susano'o and the blindness inflicted from MS is you. In which case, provide manga panels indicating as such. Otherwise I will disregard it as speculation.

Irrelevant anime interpretations of a scene are irrelevant. Another example of you stating subjective beliefs with zero evidence behind them :) Gj!

The manga is made by Kishimoto. The anime is not. Therefore scenes from the anime are irrelevant.

[/B] Yasaka Magatamas have shown to be able to nearly pierce Gaara's sand gollum, a techinque used by the second greatest defense user in the anime and manga period.

Madara's Magatamas have been shown to do that. Madara who used far more Magatamas than Itachi's 3, has far more chakra, and whose Magatama couldn't destroy Chibaku Tensei either due to the fact that its feats pale in comparison to 4 tailed Naruto's Tailed Beast Bomb, which would have gone through that defense like a knife through hot butter.

Itachi's feats with Yasaka Magatama don't even come close to Madara's, whereas Madara's feats with it don't even come close to Kyuubi Naruto's Tailed Beast Bomb. Therefore he has no hope of destroying Chibaku Tensei.

If it can do that it could easily pierce something the size of a tennis ball.

What exactly does its size have to do with its durability?

Only after its done does it look bigger than the background, according to you. The thing is, it only looks that big because it's IN the sky, not the ground, which everything else already is.

"It only looks that big because it's in the sky"
LOLwut.
The mere fact that it looks big in the sky is a testament to how big it is. Planes don't increase in size when they go up in the air. Come on now.


The Gedo Mazo was only able to do that after having the combined power of 8-9 Tailed Beasts.

Wrong. Gedo Mazo did that with 1-7 Tailed Beasts stored inside it, and that was with a significant amount of their chakra devoted to creating the Zetsu army. Basically the same number of Tailed Beasts that would have been stored inside it had Kabuto made Nagato summon it during their fight against Naruto, Bee and Itachi.

Besides, the Gedo Mazo is being controlled by Nagato. Nagato will be left vulnerable when over 20 massive poles simultaneously stab Nagato in the spine.

But that's not going to happen seeing that Gedo Mazo actually has chakra inside of it to function. Meaning Nagato can use it much like Obito did.

Also, he doesn't need to fight Nagato and implant it. He can simply Shunsin no Jutsu himself a distance away and transplant it then. It'll take Nagato a bit to find him since he'll teleport quite a distance away, even if he is a sensor.

Speculation. Nagato will know where Itachi will be easily, due to his feat of sensing where Kabuto was miles away, even though he had a barrier up. In which case, Nagato just blasts everything in Itachi's general direction with an Asura Path chakra cannon.

The eye doesn't take that long to activate. Obito had it implanted in Kakashi and seconds later he was able to use it to fight his opponents.

Kakashi also had a medical ninja there to perform the surgery, something Itachi is not.

And when he does use Izanagi, Nagato would of already thought that he was stuck in the CT. He'd end the pull of the gravitational force completely, and if he doesn't, Itachi will just reappear behind him because of Izanagi and just assassinate him from behind. Even though Nagato's a sensor, he won't be doing any sensing because he'd think Itachi is dead. Once Nagato's dead or at least injured, the CT's gravitational force would end.

That is faulty reasoning. Nagato is going to search for Itachi's chakra (and make sure it disappears completely) to make sure he is dead before he ends CT. Which means he's going to know when Itachi uses Izanagi and will sense when he appears right behind him. In which case Nagato employs any of the defenses I've noted before.

And that's not even taking into account the fact that Izanagi has never given anyone the ability to materialize at a distance so far away from where they "died". Otherwise wouldn't have happened.


Nothing Nagato has can pass the Yata Mirror.

He doesn't need to. He'll just attack the parts of Susano'o not protected by the mirror. Itachi's Susano'o has never blocked something as powerful as (which will be much stronger due to the fact a healthy Nagato is doing it himself instead of through a Path). Even assuming he can block it, Itachi can't keep up Susano'o forever, what with his chakra reserves being lower than Nagato's and the pain he will feel from keeping Susano'o up.

He can't even react to the Amaterasu in time, mobile or not.

Nagato was never in a situation where he had to defend against Amaterasu. The one time he was hit by it he wanted to be defeated and Kabuto was trying to figure out why he couldn't control Itachi. Here he can sense when Amaterasu is about to be used and defend accordingly, whether by Preta Path, Shinra Tensei (which will also blow Itachi back with its sheer range) or blocking line of sight with an Animal Path summon.

Itachi controls his whole entire summoning arsenal.

Only if every single summon Nagato has looks into Itachi's eyes, which Nagato would not do seeing that he controls the summons and has knowledge of Itachi's genjutsu.

Oh, did I forget to mention that Itachi can use his crow Shunshins also to read all of Nagato's movements from a distance/and or the sky?

Please provide proof that Itachi's crows/crow clones relay information to him the same way that a shadow clone does.

Itachi can break Nagato's visual link (already demonstrated in the anime and manga) while Itachi is the one having a visual link with his crows. That plus his precognitive skills, Nagato isn't catching him off guard.

Itachi blinded stationary summons while their attention was focused on Naruto and Bee, big whoop. Here Nagato only has one target, is mobile, and would know not to allow his extra viewpoints get blinded by kunai.
 
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I never said he was an uchihani said he had their dna,just like how madara and danzo have senju dna. But re not senju.
He dosent have a sharingan becuse it evolved to the rinnegan before he got it. He has the eyes of madara giving him uchiha dna,which is how danzo got uchiha dna too,he stole the eyes of uchihas.

Gedo had no bijuu to give it chakra to use the soul dragon,so nagato used his own




Yes he is from the senju bloodline and posseses the eyes of an uchiha,giving him both DNAs

Uchiha DNA breaks Tsukyomi :|

You can't get someone else's DNA with an eye transplant.

He has no uchiha in him and that is final.

No manga scan, no proof supporting your claim.


Gedo Mazou is easier to control without the bijuu, more chakra is consumed to control the status with bijuu.

Madara was connect to Gedo mazou at his old age and it was prolonging his life.

It didn't consume his chakra, otherwise he would be died.
(He also didn't have the rinnegan).

Madara is uchiha and senju, so manipulating Gedo mazou was easy, and it made him stronger.

Nagato is only senju lineage, so because he wasn't uchiha/senju, he couldn't control the statue well.
 

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Uchiha DNA breaks Tsukyomi :|

You can't get someone else's DNA with an eye transplant.

He has no uchiha in him and that is final.

No manga scan, no proof supporting your claim.


Gedo Mazou is easier to control without the bijuu, more chakra is consumed to control the status with bijuu.

Madara was connect to Gedo mazou at his old age and it was prolonging his life.

It didn't consume his chakra, otherwise he would be died.
(He also didn't have the rinnegan).

Madara is uchiha and senju, so manipulating Gedo mazou was easy, and it made him stronger.

Nagato is only senju lineage, so because he wasn't uchiha/senju, he couldn't control the statue well.

Lol Danzo posseses both uchiha and senju dna,telll me how he got to have the uchiha dna,oh right,an eye transplant

Nope,according to itachi's claim being an uchih breaks you out of tsukiyomi,and as I said earlier,stealing some dna from an uchiha or senju dosent make you either one of them. Danzo is neither but has both their dna which is why he can use izanagi. He got senju dna through transplnt of his arm,the same goes for the eye.


Madara didn't use gedo to fight or do any ninjutsus now did he?,rather he was draining whatever chakra was left from itnwhy would that require him to transmit his chakra? You said it yourself he used it to prolong his life where's nagato used it to perform a powerful ninjutsu,completely differentt purposes and thus differene outcomes. If madara used it to fight,this point could've been taken seriously.


Madara is not senju and uchiha,he is an uchiha who stole some senju dna. That dosent make him Senju


the statue iirc attcked hanzo's men briefly before nagto initiated the soul drgon ninjutsu which required chakra than the statue didn't have an
d such nagato used chakra recievers to transmit his chakra,when bijuus were put in it,he made the dragon,orr rather nine of them without being pierced
 

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Danzo posseses both uchiha and senju dna,telll me how he got to have the uchiha dna,oh right,an eye transplant.
Yeah, because Kakashi obtained Uchiha DNA due to the eye transplant... oh, wait.

Itachi clearly said that, despite of having their eye, Kakashi lacks their blood, hence he isn't able to break Tsukuyomi.
So here you have the prove, that Uchiha DNA can't be transplanted together with the eye.

So don't deny it.
 

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Lol Danzo posseses both uchiha and senju dna,telll me how he got to have the uchiha dna,oh right,an eye transplant

Nope,according to itachi's claim being an uchih breaks you out of tsukiyomi,and as I said earlier,stealing some dna from an uchiha or senju dosent make you either one of them. Danzo is neither but has both their dna which is why he can use izanagi. He got senju dna through transplnt of his arm,the same goes for the eye.


Madara didn't use gedo to fight or do any ninjutsus now did he?,rather he was draining whatever chakra was left from itnwhy would that require him to transmit his chakra? You said it yourself he used it to prolong his life where's nagato used it to perform a powerful ninjutsu,completely differentt purposes and thus differene outcomes. If madara used it to fight,this point could've been taken seriously.


Madara is not senju and uchiha,he is an uchiha who stole some senju dna. That dosent make him Senju


the statue iirc attcked hanzo's men briefly before nagto initiated the soul drgon ninjutsu which required chakra than the statue didn't have an
d such nagato used chakra recievers to transmit his chakra,when bijuus were put in it,he made the dragon,orr rather nine of them without being pierced

What the fvck?

Are you stupid?


1. Danzo doesn't have Uchiha DNA, nor did the manga stated he did.

In fact, Tobi stated that Sasuke is Uchiha and you are not, and when it comes to the battle of eyes he is superior than you.

He didn't have uchiha DNA, all he had was senju DNA.

2. No again!

Tsukyomi gets broken by any one with Uchiha blood running through his vains.

It's because Danzo is not uchiha blood and lack control of Hashi's cells, that he has a failed incomplete inzanagi.

The example you gave is pointless, it's like posting Kakashi got uchiha DNA from Obito so that's why he can use kamui. :|

3. Madara used Gedo mazou for Yin yang release yet he is perfectly fine.

It's harder to use the bijuu and Gedo mazou, Kakashi already explained that.

Even SM Madara used the dragon technique from Gedo mazou to capture all bijuus within a few seconds.

Obito used nine dragon seal with only 3 akatsuki's (kisame/zetsu).

Nagato had to use all akatsuki member to use nine dragon seal, he can't use it by himself or he would die.

There's a reason why akatsuki is poor ing their chakra into this Justu. Herp Derp

Read the databook, it's an akatsuki Justu for a reason.

4. Madara implanted Hashirama's tissue, making him being senju by blood.

Obito has half of Hashirama's tissue in his body

Nagato has jacksh*t nothing from uchiha DNA/blood.
 

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Lol well I'm done debating over something that people refuse to alter their opinions about, or at least consider the oppositions strengths and advantages. It seems to me that this was over awhile ago...seeing as random fanboys are just voting for Nagato without even commenting, lol. Going to move on to other threads. Each person who debates me in this is throwing out facts that I already countered days ago. I'm done repeating myself. Good luck to you all :)
 

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Yeah, because Kakashi obtained Uchiha DNA due to the eye transplant... oh, wait.

Itachi clearly said that, despite of having their eye, Kakashi lacks their blood, hence he isn't able to break Tsukuyomi.
So here you have the prove, that Uchiha DNA can't be transplanted together with the eye.

So don't deny it.
Already countered this,having uchiha blood means being an uchiha,or at least having blood relation. Stealing uchiha dna does not make you an uchiha. Kakashi isn't an uchiha.
How does this disprove my danzo comment? You are bringing proof from part 1,I am bringing from part 2. Danzo taking.a sharingan gave him uchiha dna which is how he uses izanagi. Don't deny that.




What the fvck?

Are you stupid?


1. Danzo doesn't have Uchiha DNA, nor did the manga stated he did.

In fact, Tobi stated that Sasuke is Uchiha and you are not, and when it comes to the battle of eyes he is superior than you.

He didn't have uchiha DNA, all he had was senju DNA.

2. No again!

Tsukyomi gets broken by any one with Uchiha blood running through his vains.

It's because Danzo is not uchiha blood and lack control of Hashi's cells, that he has a failed incomplete inzanagi.

The example you gave is pointless, it's like posting Kakashi got uchiha DNA from Obito so that's why he can use kamui. :|

3. Madara used Gedo mazou for Yin yang release yet he is perfectly fine.

It's harder to use the bijuu and Gedo mazou, Kakashi already explained that.

Even SM Madara used the dragon technique from Gedo mazou to capture all bijuus within a few seconds.

Obito used nine dragon seal with only 3 akatsuki's (kisame/zetsu).

Nagato had to use all akatsuki member to use nine dragon seal, he can't use it by himself or he would die.

There's a reason why akatsuki is poor ing their chakra into this Justu. Herp Derp

Read the databook, it's an akatsuki Justu for a reason.

4. Madara implanted Hashirama's tissue, making him being senju by blood.

Obito has half of Hashirama's tissue in his body

Nagato has jacksh*t nothing from uchiha DNA/blood.

Am I stupid? Ask yourself that,izanagi is done only by combining senju and uchiha,



Thus danzo had both,but couldn't properly control his senju dna nd thus izanagi wasn't complete. This already makes everything else worthless but...meh

As I have said tons of times,taking some dna from n uchiha dosent make you one,kakashi isn't an uchiha and so can't break it. Obito's dn is PRECISELY the reason why kakashi has kamui,,had he taken shiushi's own,theb he would have had ka,isn't that obvious?

Nagato mastered yinyang release at the age of 10,danzo had it(izanagi),ms obito had it(izanagi) so gedo has nothing to do with it,only those with senju uchiha dna has been shown to use it

Madara never used soul dragon,he used chains which is an ability of the outer path,he was boosted by senju dna and further boosted by sge mode allowing him to use it on that scale and capture them quickly.

It is more difficult to handle six bijuus at a time,especially if you are running your chakra through eachj of them via receivers. Obito clearly hd no problem with gedo itselfnthe bijuus inside don't add ny problem,just serve as btteries for the gedo

All the aktsuki used were the ones alive,obito did it with three because no one else was available. The only thing the akatsuki members contributed was a reduction in the sealing time,because none of them cn do jack about gedo,nor can they control it or use it. Nagato summons it,nagto is the one that brings out the dragon,the more they were,the less time.


Transplanting a freaking tissue dosent make you a senju,madar is an uchiha,with senju dna alongside. Aside from his little transplant everything else is uchiha in him,so why would a freakibg tissue turn him to senju?

Oh and speaking of tissues,thhe eye is n ORGAN which posseses several TISSUES,if a tissue gave maddy senju,then an orgn gives nagato uchiha
 

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Already countered this,having uchiha blood means being an uchiha,or at least having blood relation. Stealing uchiha dna does not make you an uchiha. Kakashi isn't an uchiha.
How does this disprove my danzo comment? You are bringing proof from part 1,I am bringing from part 2. Danzo taking.a sharingan gave him uchiha dna which is how he uses izanagi. Don't deny that.






Am I stupid? Ask yourself that,izanagi is done only by combining senju and uchiha,



Thus danzo had both,but couldn't properly control his senju dna nd thus izanagi wasn't complete. This already makes everything else worthless but...meh

As I have said tons of times,taking some dna from n uchiha dosent make you one,kakashi isn't an uchiha and so can't break it. Obito's dn is PRECISELY the reason why kakashi has kamui,,had he taken shiushi's own,theb he would have had ka,isn't that obvious?

Nagato mastered yinyang release at the age of 10,danzo had it(izanagi),ms obito had it(izanagi) so gedo has nothing to do with it,only those with senju uchiha dna has been shown to use it

Madara never used soul dragon,he used chains which is an ability of the outer path,he was boosted by senju dna and further boosted by sge mode allowing him to use it on that scale and capture them quickly.

It is more difficult to handle six bijuus at a time,especially if you are running your chakra through eachj of them via receivers. Obito clearly hd no problem with gedo itselfnthe bijuus inside don't add ny problem,just serve as btteries for the gedo

All the aktsuki used were the ones alive,obito did it with three because no one else was available. The only thing the akatsuki members contributed was a reduction in the sealing time,because none of them cn do jack about gedo,nor can they control it or use it. Nagato summons it,nagto is the one that brings out the dragon,the more they were,the less time.


Transplanting a freaking tissue dosent make you a senju,madar is an uchiha,with senju dna alongside. Aside from his little transplant everything else is uchiha in him,so why would a freakibg tissue turn him to senju?

Oh and speaking of tissues,thhe eye is n ORGAN which posseses several TISSUES,if a tissue gave maddy senju,then an orgn gives nagato uchiha


Done debating but you should watch this episode. You don't need Senju and Uchiha DNA to get Izanagi. Obito was wrong and Itachi was right.
 

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Lol well I'm done debating over something that people refuse to alter their opinions about, or at least consider the oppositions strengths and advantages. It seems to me that this was over awhile ago...seeing as random fanboys are just voting for Nagato without even commenting, lol. Going to move on to other threads. Each person who debates me in this is throwing out facts that I already countered days ago. I'm done repeating myself. Good luck to you all :)

Dude. Braiyan crapped on your entire argument.
 

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Dude. Braiyan crapped on your entire argument.


By repeating refuted points from nearly a week ago?

It seems I've been bested :/

If I find time during the week to respond with an essay, I will.
 
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By repeating refuted points from nearly a week ago?

It seems I've been bested :/

I just read the whole thread. He gave multiple ways to counter each and every point you brought up.
Yet you pulled anime out of your ass even though it holds no weight.
 

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Oh look! People are still arguing about this 3 pages later and the people claiming Nagato wins still haven't countered my post LOOOOOOOOOOL




Oh and should I just add:

-Itachi already countered CT, 1 shotted Cerberus and the bird, which were Nagato's only hopes of mobility?

-Destroyed Rinnegan's vision link by throwing kunai at Gakido and the Chameleon?

-Sealed Nagato because he had no Mobility which Itachi took away from him? (Refer to my sig).

Face it "Nagato wins" claimers. Itachi outclassed him in chapter 551, you're living in denial. "OH BUT GUYSSSSS KABUTO WERZ CONTR0LLING HIM@@@" Yea, and he also made Nagato use his strongest tech, point? Itachi countered and shat on him all in 1 chapter.
 
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Already countered this,having uchiha blood means being an uchiha,or at least having blood relation. Stealing uchiha dna does not make you an uchiha. Kakashi isn't an uchiha.
How does this disprove my danzo comment? You are bringing proof from part 1,I am bringing from part 2. Danzo taking.a sharingan gave him uchiha dna which is how he uses izanagi. Don't deny that.
wtf.. If Kakashi doesn't possess Uchiha DNA and thus isn't able to counter Tsukuyomi, Nagato isn't as well.
Orochimaru did experiments on Danzo and modified his body, that wasn't a mere eye transplant. If you say that Danzo obtained Uchiha DNA via the eye transplant, it's about you to prove that.

Itachi clearly said, that a mere eye transplant won't protect you from Tsukuyomi, as you lack the Kekkei Genkai (DNA).

So accept facts, Nagato can't withstand Tsukuyomi.
 
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