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Nagato has both uchiha/senju in him.
OT: nagato wins
How does Nagato have either? Perhaps the Senju DNA since the Uzumaki are distant relatives, but he's not an Uchiha.
Nagato has both uchiha/senju in him.
OT: nagato wins
Nagato has both uchiha/senju in him.
OT: nagato wins
Obviously you didn't read everything I posted. And if you did, scroll back to reread them. I stated exactly how Itachi counters everything. And btw, Itachi actually DOESN'T need Nagato to stare into his eyes for him to cast a Genjutsu![]()
Lol the fvck no
He has no Uchiha in him whatsoever :|
If he was Uchiha, he would have a sharingan but he doesn't.
He wouldn't of had Gedo mazou's black rod shoved up his___
Permanently damaging him for life.
No, I didn't.
Hungry Ghost / Shinra Tensei > Amaterasu
Hungry Ghost / Chibaku Tensei > Susanoo
Shinra Tensei > Totsuka
Bansho Tennin > Yata
Summon spam > Itachi's chakra
Disruption Spikes > Itachi's chakra control/body control
You mean genjutsu using handseals? Yes, I forgot, Kurenai and Shii could totally one-shot Nagato too.
Umm... he has Madara's eyes, that means he has Uchiha in him.
No, I didn't.
Hungry Ghost / Shinra Tensei > Amaterasu
Hungry Ghost / Chibaku Tensei > Susanoo
Shinra Tensei > Totsuka
Bansho Tennin > Yata
Summon spam > Itachi's chakra
Disruption Spikes > Itachi's chakra control/body control
You mean genjutsu using handseals? Yes, I forgot, Kurenai and Shii could totally one-shot Nagato too.
Umm... he has Madara's eyes, that means he has Uchiha in him.
I never said he was an uchihani said he had their dna,just like how madara and danzo have senju dna. But re not senju.Lol the fvck no
He has no Uchiha in him whatsoever :|
If he was Uchiha, he would have a sharingan but he doesn't.
He wouldn't of had Gedo mazou's black rod shoved up his___
Permanently damaging him for life.
How does Nagato have either? Perhaps the Senju DNA since the Uzumaki are distant relatives, but he's not an Uchiha.
You know, besides Itachi's eye bleeding, which always happens before Amaterasu is cast, and Kabuto wondering what the hell was going on the very next page. But keep on ignoring that.
So, to you, Nagato can only predict what jutsu Itachi is going to cast by seeing whether or not his eye bleeds? Genius!
Nagato controls his summons only if Itachi permits it. Itachi was able to control a Dragon Sage who trained at the legendary Ryuchi Cave. I think he can control a bird and a dog. I already supplied evidence that Itachi can do so in the previous comments and panels. If you care to ignore that, it's not my problem.
The state of Sasuke's MS eyes are irrelevant to whether Susano'o pains him or not. He complained about the pain of maintaining just the ribcage whilst he was fighting Mei, and he was in so much pain against Danzo that his Susano'o reverted to a lower stage. Therefore Itachi will be in pain if he uses Susano'o constantly (so much pain it'll cause him to revert from its higher levels), which he needs in order to defend against Nagato's attacks.
Probably one of the stupidest comments I've read thus far. The state of a Sharingan user's eyes has all the relevancy in the WORLD. Sasuke had JUST gotten his MS and had literally NO idea how to use it. He went up against the 5 Kage and thensome, so how can you not expect him, a new MS Sharingan user, to feel pain? He was even surprised that he felt it.
Irrelevant anime interpretations of a scene are irrelevant. Another example of you stating subjective beliefs with zero evidence behind themGj!
[/B] Yasaka Magatamas have shown to be able to nearly pierce Gaara's sand gollum, a techinque used by the second greatest defense user in the anime and manga period.
If it can do that it could easily pierce something the size of a tennis ball.
Only after its done does it look bigger than the background, according to you. The thing is, it only looks that big because it's IN the sky, not the ground, which everything else already is.
The Gedo Mazo was only able to do that after having the combined power of 8-9 Tailed Beasts.
Besides, the Gedo Mazo is being controlled by Nagato. Nagato will be left vulnerable when over 20 massive poles simultaneously stab Nagato in the spine.
Also, he doesn't need to fight Nagato and implant it. He can simply Shunsin no Jutsu himself a distance away and transplant it then. It'll take Nagato a bit to find him since he'll teleport quite a distance away, even if he is a sensor.
The eye doesn't take that long to activate. Obito had it implanted in Kakashi and seconds later he was able to use it to fight his opponents.
And when he does use Izanagi, Nagato would of already thought that he was stuck in the CT. He'd end the pull of the gravitational force completely, and if he doesn't, Itachi will just reappear behind him because of Izanagi and just assassinate him from behind. Even though Nagato's a sensor, he won't be doing any sensing because he'd think Itachi is dead. Once Nagato's dead or at least injured, the CT's gravitational force would end.
Nothing Nagato has can pass the Yata Mirror.
He can't even react to the Amaterasu in time, mobile or not.
Itachi controls his whole entire summoning arsenal.
Oh, did I forget to mention that Itachi can use his crow Shunshins also to read all of Nagato's movements from a distance/and or the sky?
Itachi can break Nagato's visual link (already demonstrated in the anime and manga) while Itachi is the one having a visual link with his crows. That plus his precognitive skills, Nagato isn't catching him off guard.
I never said he was an uchihani said he had their dna,just like how madara and danzo have senju dna. But re not senju.
He dosent have a sharingan becuse it evolved to the rinnegan before he got it. He has the eyes of madara giving him uchiha dna,which is how danzo got uchiha dna too,he stole the eyes of uchihas.
Gedo had no bijuu to give it chakra to use the soul dragon,so nagato used his own
Yes he is from the senju bloodline and posseses the eyes of an uchiha,giving him both DNAs
Uchiha DNA breaks Tsukyomi :|
You can't get someone else's DNA with an eye transplant.
He has no uchiha in him and that is final.
No manga scan, no proof supporting your claim.
Gedo Mazou is easier to control without the bijuu, more chakra is consumed to control the status with bijuu.
Madara was connect to Gedo mazou at his old age and it was prolonging his life.
It didn't consume his chakra, otherwise he would be died.
(He also didn't have the rinnegan).
Madara is uchiha and senju, so manipulating Gedo mazou was easy, and it made him stronger.
Nagato is only senju lineage, so because he wasn't uchiha/senju, he couldn't control the statue well.
Yeah, because Kakashi obtained Uchiha DNA due to the eye transplant... oh, wait.Danzo posseses both uchiha and senju dna,telll me how he got to have the uchiha dna,oh right,an eye transplant.
Lol Danzo posseses both uchiha and senju dna,telll me how he got to have the uchiha dna,oh right,an eye transplant
Nope,according to itachi's claim being an uchih breaks you out of tsukiyomi,and as I said earlier,stealing some dna from an uchiha or senju dosent make you either one of them. Danzo is neither but has both their dna which is why he can use izanagi. He got senju dna through transplnt of his arm,the same goes for the eye.
Madara didn't use gedo to fight or do any ninjutsus now did he?,rather he was draining whatever chakra was left from itnwhy would that require him to transmit his chakra? You said it yourself he used it to prolong his life where's nagato used it to perform a powerful ninjutsu,completely differentt purposes and thus differene outcomes. If madara used it to fight,this point could've been taken seriously.
Madara is not senju and uchiha,he is an uchiha who stole some senju dna. That dosent make him Senju
the statue iirc attcked hanzo's men briefly before nagto initiated the soul drgon ninjutsu which required chakra than the statue didn't have an
d such nagato used chakra recievers to transmit his chakra,when bijuus were put in it,he made the dragon,orr rather nine of them without being pierced
Already countered this,having uchiha blood means being an uchiha,or at least having blood relation. Stealing uchiha dna does not make you an uchiha. Kakashi isn't an uchiha.Yeah, because Kakashi obtained Uchiha DNA due to the eye transplant... oh, wait.
Itachi clearly said that, despite of having their eye, Kakashi lacks their blood, hence he isn't able to break Tsukuyomi.
So here you have the prove, that Uchiha DNA can't be transplanted together with the eye.
So don't deny it.
What the fvck?
Are you stupid?
1. Danzo doesn't have Uchiha DNA, nor did the manga stated he did.
In fact, Tobi stated that Sasuke is Uchiha and you are not, and when it comes to the battle of eyes he is superior than you.
He didn't have uchiha DNA, all he had was senju DNA.
2. No again!
Tsukyomi gets broken by any one with Uchiha blood running through his vains.
It's because Danzo is not uchiha blood and lack control of Hashi's cells, that he has a failed incomplete inzanagi.
The example you gave is pointless, it's like posting Kakashi got uchiha DNA from Obito so that's why he can use kamui. :|
3. Madara used Gedo mazou for Yin yang release yet he is perfectly fine.
It's harder to use the bijuu and Gedo mazou, Kakashi already explained that.
Even SM Madara used the dragon technique from Gedo mazou to capture all bijuus within a few seconds.
Obito used nine dragon seal with only 3 akatsuki's (kisame/zetsu).
Nagato had to use all akatsuki member to use nine dragon seal, he can't use it by himself or he would die.
There's a reason why akatsuki is poor ing their chakra into this Justu. Herp Derp
Read the databook, it's an akatsuki Justu for a reason.
4. Madara implanted Hashirama's tissue, making him being senju by blood.
Obito has half of Hashirama's tissue in his body
Nagato has jacksh*t nothing from uchiha DNA/blood.
Already countered this,having uchiha blood means being an uchiha,or at least having blood relation. Stealing uchiha dna does not make you an uchiha. Kakashi isn't an uchiha.
How does this disprove my danzo comment? You are bringing proof from part 1,I am bringing from part 2. Danzo taking.a sharingan gave him uchiha dna which is how he uses izanagi. Don't deny that.
Am I stupid? Ask yourself that,izanagi is done only by combining senju and uchiha,
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Thus danzo had both,but couldn't properly control his senju dna nd thus izanagi wasn't complete. This already makes everything else worthless but...meh
As I have said tons of times,taking some dna from n uchiha dosent make you one,kakashi isn't an uchiha and so can't break it. Obito's dn is PRECISELY the reason why kakashi has kamui,,had he taken shiushi's own,theb he would have had ka,isn't that obvious?
Nagato mastered yinyang release at the age of 10,danzo had it(izanagi),ms obito had it(izanagi) so gedo has nothing to do with it,only those with senju uchiha dna has been shown to use it
Madara never used soul dragon,he used chains which is an ability of the outer path,he was boosted by senju dna and further boosted by sge mode allowing him to use it on that scale and capture them quickly.
It is more difficult to handle six bijuus at a time,especially if you are running your chakra through eachj of them via receivers. Obito clearly hd no problem with gedo itselfnthe bijuus inside don't add ny problem,just serve as btteries for the gedo
All the aktsuki used were the ones alive,obito did it with three because no one else was available. The only thing the akatsuki members contributed was a reduction in the sealing time,because none of them cn do jack about gedo,nor can they control it or use it. Nagato summons it,nagto is the one that brings out the dragon,the more they were,the less time.
Transplanting a freaking tissue dosent make you a senju,madar is an uchiha,with senju dna alongside. Aside from his little transplant everything else is uchiha in him,so why would a freakibg tissue turn him to senju?
Oh and speaking of tissues,thhe eye is n ORGAN which posseses several TISSUES,if a tissue gave maddy senju,then an orgn gives nagato uchiha
Lol well I'm done debating over something that people refuse to alter their opinions about, or at least consider the oppositions strengths and advantages. It seems to me that this was over awhile ago...seeing as random fanboys are just voting for Nagato without even commenting, lol. Going to move on to other threads. Each person who debates me in this is throwing out facts that I already countered days ago. I'm done repeating myself. Good luck to you all![]()
Dude. Braiyan crapped on your entire argument.
By repeating refuted points from nearly a week ago?
It seems I've been bested :/
wtf.. If Kakashi doesn't possess Uchiha DNA and thus isn't able to counter Tsukuyomi, Nagato isn't as well.Already countered this,having uchiha blood means being an uchiha,or at least having blood relation. Stealing uchiha dna does not make you an uchiha. Kakashi isn't an uchiha.
How does this disprove my danzo comment? You are bringing proof from part 1,I am bringing from part 2. Danzo taking.a sharingan gave him uchiha dna which is how he uses izanagi. Don't deny that.