Hashirama's Hype Is Nothing Bu t'' BS''

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Madara needed hashirama's parts at least intact to get some cells. A god of shinobi needed whole page + some to be able to enter SM and counter what madara can bring in 3-4 panels and under 10 sec. Clearly at that scenario where hashi had no SM madara let him run lose.
"Needing cells" is not an argument since cells don't die, they just continuously reproduce and divide. If Madara could have won, he would have and had the entire body of Hashirama to cultivate from. And guess what? He lost.
 

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"Needing cells" is not an argument since cells don't die, they just continuously reproduce and divide. If Madara could have won, he would have and had the entire body of Hashirama to cultivate from. And guess what? He lost.
Except bijudamas vaporize mountains, yet alone some body. While 1 TBB at the time hashi could bare somehow multiple not.
 

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Some of these Madara Fans need to realize.. Hashirama was going to end the Fight with Kurama in just 1 page:

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Then also you madara fanboys need to realize Hashirama went easy on Madara..... If your still stuck on the deal about the ending.. just go look at when he got off the buddha...... He could've easily took out Madara with the buddha. But did he choose to? no.

Hell Hashirama truly only went for the kill when Madara killed the wood clone and showed no remorse about it.


EMS Madara is not even in the same league as Hashirama..... EMS Madara has no chance against even binding the juubi. lmao.

And go reread the original Viz Scan:
" His might was so vast that people considered him a fairy tail like the Sage of the Six Paths".

People stop bullshitting and *****ing over if Hashirama is compared to the SO6P in terms of power. You all need to realize by now SO6P is not the only 1 who can beat the Juubi.... Hell Naruto is going to be its jinchuriki.. what are you gonna do then? ***** and moan?

YES , HASHIRAMA IS LITERALLY PUT IN THE SAME TEIR AS SO6P... DOES IT MEAN THEY ARE EQUAL? NO... SO6P HAS THE JUUBI.

AND IS MADARA IN THEIR TIER? NO

EDO Madara isn't even Madara.... lmao. Hes some zombie who is the result of Kabuto's experiments on Madara.


OT: When your lil boy Madara has a feat like Hashirama.... who literally has the juubi restrained.. please do come talk to me about him being superior.
 

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rasengan is different from rasenshuriken. rasengan is just chakra shape transformation, while rasenshuriken is you have to add nature transformation to it, see 2 different techs.

jiraiya never said what you stated. he said to make rasengan more powerful you need more chakra to add uo to it. like i said before, if something is perfect, you can still perfect it more.
Wind Release: Rasengan. Still the Rasengan. Demolishes everything you've said.

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like i said before, if something is perfect, you can still perfect it more.

here is a verb for the word ''perfect'': Make (something) completely free from faults or defects, or as close to such a condition as possible.

kabuto tried to master it to a better level.
You can improve something that's already perfect? So Madara can improve his Perfect Susanoo? What would it be called then?

perfect
per·fect [adj., n. pur-fikt; v. per-fekt] Show IPA
adjective
1.
conforming absolutely to the description or definition of an ideal type: a perfect sphere; a perfect gentleman.
2.
excellent or complete beyond practical or theoretical improvement: There is no perfect legal code. The proportions of this temple are almost perfect.
3.
exactly fitting the need in a certain situation or for a certain purpose: a perfect actor to play Mr. Micawber; a perfect saw for cutting out keyholes.
4.
entirely without any flaws, defects, or shortcomings: a perfect apple; the perfect crime.
5.
accurate, exact, or correct in every detail: a perfect copy.

his healing was never better than tsunade other wise why would he say that she uses the same tech as hashirama did?

plus tsuande managed to heal the whole village which puts her above hashirama.
Tsunade admits inferiority to Hashirama's Medical Ninjutsu herself.

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The very character you're fanboying over is praising Hashirama, who he deemed his mortal enemy. That alone breaks down your whole thread.

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Some of these Madara Fans need to realize.. Hashirama was going to end the Fight with Kurama in just 1 page:

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Then also you madara fanboys need to realize Hashirama went easy on Madara..... If your still stuck on the deal about the ending.. just go look at when he got off the buddha...... He could've easily took out Madara with the buddha. But did he choose to? no.

Hell Hashirama truly only went for the kill when Madara killed the wood clone and showed no remorse about it.


EMS Madara is not even in the same league as Hashirama..... EMS Madara has no chance against even binding the juubi. lmao.

And go reread the original Viz Scan:
" His might was so vast that people considered him a fairy tail like the Sage of the Six Paths".

People stop bullshitting and *****ing over if Hashirama is compared to the SO6P in terms of power. You all need to realize by now SO6P is not the only 1 who can beat the Juubi.... Hell Naruto is going to be its jinchuriki.. what are you gonna do then? ***** and moan?

YES , HASHIRAMA IS LITERALLY PUT IN THE SAME TEIR AS SO6P... DOES IT MEAN THEY ARE EQUAL? NO... SO6P HAS THE JUUBI.

AND IS MADARA IN THEIR TIER? NO

EDO Madara isn't even Madara.... lmao. Hes some zombie who is the result of Kabuto's experiments on Madara.


OT: When your lil boy Madara has a feat like Hashirama.... who literally has the juubi restrained.. please do come talk to me about him being superior.
Madara beat Hashirama out of Sennin Modo along with the Remains of Shin-shuusenju without the kyuubi's help yet you claim Hashirama to be vastly superior?

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Madara beat Hashirama out of Sennin Modo along with the Remains of Shin-shuusenju without the kyuubi's help yet you claim Hashirama to be vastly superior?

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Before making statements, read the manga and analyze it... It clearly shows Hashirama getting of the buddha and getting out of SM to take on Madara..... -sigh-. This is so childish.

Madara also stated he was at the top.. and then got his ass handed to him. o_O. Edo Madara exists due to Kabuto.
 

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Before making statements, read the manga and analyze it... It clearly shows Hashirama getting of the buddha and getting out of SM to take on Madara..... -sigh-. This is so childish.

Madara also stated he was at the top.. and then got his ass handed to him. o_O. Edo Madara exists due to Kabuto.
Are you asking me to believe that the Mokuton Golem and Mokuton dragon as well as his SM magically disappeared?
 

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Why are you bringing edo tensei into this? Not only does it require prep but its not kabuto who's stopping madara, its the edo army. Put kabuto vs EMS madara alone & he loses



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Seriously......? Sage >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NV don't add him as a filler character because you cant find anybody else.


Also 1 more thing, all of these characters are top 5-10 ninja its funny how you think hashi's feats are garbage when they can only be matched by the strongest characters in the series :cool:

3- kabuto controls all of his edo tensie army like his puppets, and its also a summoning jutsu, therefore its part of his power, so he can be included

4-just like kabuto, but orochimaru limits of edo tensie are (seond, third and forth).

5-you asked ninjas that can beat ems madara and kyuubi.

you dont understand what was this thread about. its about how hashirama's feats arent as good as his hype.
 

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omg.. a genin, post this kind of thread.. humiliating post for a genin lvl like me... i'm a genin also but this is far too much...

1) obviously its not a hype to what Hashirama have done, hashirama whoop madara's ass twice in a row.... if you said hashirama is just a hype, then madara is a BIGGER hype than him.... it just dont make any sense!

2) rasengan is not a 'perfect' jutsu, rasengan was intended to be use with the nature manipulation.... it's just a stepping stone to even greater lvl tech that requires nature manipulation... its just that rasengan is the limit that most people use do use it... and most importantly, its not perfect...

3) you cant just compare the edo tensei used by orochimaru during the fight with hiruzen with the current one.... its not the matter of perfect or not.. its the SAME

- that time, orochimaru edo tensei is considered ' not yet perfect' and he puts those kunai thing to override their will... then why hashirama dont use Shinsuusenju at the first place and beat the hell out of hiruzen... there a lot of factors to be considered here...

- current one may be considered ' more perfect' because what tobirama said 'we revive nearly at full power' and so on.. plus, oro didnt put the kunai to override their will... they roaming at their own free will... so expect their full power jutsu's and so on

-but it is the SAME because it used by the SAME person.. the freaking orochimaru! eventhough there is some time frame between the fight and his death by sasuke... he cant improve much unless the curse seal is on kabuto. then we can say the current one is 'perfect' edo tensei because the conscious of oro will learn what kabuto is been doing all along...

all in all.....
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1-madara doesnt have a pure hype like hashirama when his feats isnt equal to his hype.

2-i am not going to say it again rasenshuriken is a different jutsu from rasengan. rasenshuriken adding shape transformation and nature transformation. rasengan is just one jutsu shape transformation. minato was trying to learn different jutsu that is not the rasengan

3-orochimaru knew hiruzen was a powerful ninja, so why would he resurrect them less than their full power. the manga stated that orochimaru perfected the jutsu from p1, stop being a denial, because this hashirama look like a loser.
 

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Then please tell me why the 4th Hokage even bothered to try to create the second technique, when judging by what you said earlier, his initial technique that he created was already a " perfect " jutsu. Or are you just going to put up the fallacy stating that you can make something that is already perfect, more perfect. Just admit it, Rasengan is not a perfect jutsu, quit twisting the definition of words to benefit your argument.



Please enlighten me, how do you make something that is already perfect, more perfect?



Thanks for helping to prove my point yet again! It is a manga fact that every jutsu has a weakness, which goes against your definition of perfect even more since something that is perfect cannot have faults or defects, which is why I'm still laughing at your example using Minato's Rasengan and proceeding to call it a perfect jutsu. ( man, it just seems like all the points you bring up just end up getting used against you )



Which takes us back to our original argument. I will say that Kabuto mastered Edo Tensei, but this happened in part 2, not part 1. Making your whole argument of " Hashirama was beaten by an old man " an asinine and moot point, since Hashirama was not at full power in the first place.

Besides, I want to hear Hiruzen's counter to this:
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My point exactly.

Anyway, I love the irony of your status, especially when you make a Madara wank thread and continue to wank him for six pages straight, showing us how badly you crave Madara's di*k.

Unsuccessful Idiot is Unsuccessful.

since hiruzen mastered all of the leaf techs then there is some jutsu that beat the buddah
 
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