Hashirama is the real villain

[SageOfTheTenPaths]

I'm back with another "controversial" thread. This might not be the most popular belief, but it's the truth.

Hashirama created the Madara we have today, the angry Madara, the vengefull Madara. The Madara that was betrayed by the very friend he had closest to him. The Madara that had his little brother killed by the second Hokage

Back in the day, Hashirama and Madara where friends, they grew up together and where almost like brothers.
Then as they grew up Madara started to notice the discrimination of the Uchiha in Konoha
But his good friend Hashirama did not discriminate him, in fact Hashirama said that if he was to be the first Hokage, he would make Madara the second Hokage. And the Senju & Uchiha would live side by side.

Well.... This was all a lie from Hashirama There was no democracy, the Uchiha where discriminated and persecuted under his reign, and the promise he made to Madara? Well, that was just another lie, he instead made his brother Tobirama the second Hokage, the very man that Murdered Madara's Brother Izuna.

So to summarize, the Madara we have today would never had even existed if it wherent for the many lies, deceit and manipulation of Hashirama and his Brother the coward Tobirama

Madara was left with no other choice but to leave Konoha, imagine having to leave the very place you founded? Your home, your friend, your family?

The leaf village was as much Madaras dream as Hashiramas! Hashirama had no right to rip that dream out of Madaras heart. Only a true black-hearted, egocentric, manipulative and evil man does such a thing, and that man is Hashirama!

 

[itach15]

No wait Sherlock -_- .........

 

[The8thGateBeast]

Madara said he lost faith in the world after he read the uchiha tablet and found out what happened in the past so no it's not hashiramas fault.

 

[Gerkak]

Wow,wow, wow. Madara is the one who turned himself into what he has become. Everyone is responsible for the decisions they make.

Stop trying to troll

 

[TrollKing]

I'm back with another "controversial" thread. This might not be the most popular belief, but it's the truth.

Hashirama created the Madara we have today, the angry Madara, the vengefull Madara. The Madara that was betrayed by the very friend he had closest to him. The Madara that had his little brother killed by the second Hokage

Back in the day, Hashirama and Madara where friends, they grew up together and where almost like brothers.
Then as they grew up Madara started to notice the discrimination of the Uchiha in Konoha
But his good friend Hashirama did not discriminate him, in fact Hashirama said that if he was to be the first Hokage, he would make Madara the second Hokage. And the Senju & Uchiha would live side by side.

Well.... This was all a lie from Hashirama There was no democracy, the Uchiha where discriminated and persecuted under his reign, and the promise he made to Madara? Well, that was just another lie, he instead made his brother Tobirama the second Hokage, the very man that Murdered Madara's Brother Izuna.

So to summarize, the Madara we have today would never had even existed if it wherent for the many lies, deceit and manipulation of Hashirama and his Brother the coward Tobirama

Madara was left with no other choice but to leave Konoha, imagine having to leave the very place you founded? Your home, your friend, your family?

The leaf village was as much Madaras dream as Hashiramas! Hashirama had no right to rip that dream out of Madaras heart. Only a true black-hearted, egocentric, manipulative and evil man does such a thing, and that man is Hashirama!

I totally agree and naruto is the greatest helper of the great villian

 

[-immortal-]

Retardddddd.d...d.d..d.d.d yes!

 

[WolfHaley]

Tobirama a coward? The guy stood up to Hashirama and said no to Madara being Hokage.

 

[slimreaper]

but if hashi really was the villian, we were just seeing it through his point of view... that would be a plot twist

 

[Made in Heaven]

This dudes trolling levels rival Uchicha Macho's

 

[SageOfTheTenPaths]

Tobirama a coward? The guy stood up to Hashirama and said no to Madara being Hokage.

Tobirama is the biggest coward on NV.

 

[Gaara Of The Death]

Shit thread, Hashirama tried so much to keep Madara happy. As you said he would of even made him Hokage, Hashirama tried and tried in fact he friendship for Madara blinded him and he nearly made a vengeful Uchiha the HOKAGE. Izuna's death turned Madara bitter, the Uchiha we never oppressed until Hashi died.​

 

[HashiramaDescendant]

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Hashirama loved Madara to the same extent (or more) that he loved Tobirama.

 

[SageOfTheTenPaths]

This dudes trolling levels rival Uchicha Macho's

If you dont like the thread then leave, no reason for you being here and making useless comments.

 

[WolfHaley]

Tobirama is the biggest coward on NV.

:3 ok .

 

[SageOfTheTenPaths]

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Hashirama loved Madara to the same extent (or more) that he loved Tobirama.

Then why did he stab him in the back and break his promise to make him Hokage?

 

[Made in Heaven]

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Hashirama loved Madara to the same extent (or more) that he loved Tobirama.

Kinda pathetic to love your enemy as much as your brother

 

[UltraPain]

Madara was responsible for his own downfall. The message on the Uchiha tablet could have been taken in a positive or a negative way, and Madara chose the negative one.

Hashirama also wasn't the master of the universe and couldn't just make everything happen in Madara's favor. Making a village involves hundreds, if not thousands of people, and Hashi wasn't going to be a dictator and force everyone to agree with his idea of Madara becoming Hokage. He obviously tried to be there as a friend but Madara didn't want it.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Then why did he stab him in the back and break his promise to make him Hokage?

Cause he was being a cry baby and saying he'd destroy the village. Like, shit, what manga are you reading?

 

[HashiramaDescendant]

Then why did he stab him in the back and break his promise to make him Hokage?

Well for starters, Madara didn't want to become Hokage. That's why he wanted to kill Hashirama and seek revenge on the Leaf. :|

Kinda pathetic to love your enemy as much as your brother

Well, he never really considered themselves enemies.

 

[SageOfTheTenPaths]

Cause that sorry he was being a cry baby and saying he'd destroy the village. Like, shit, what manga are you reading?

You mean the village Madara founded himself? He has the right when he is lied to by Hashirama. Hashirama took charge and wanted tobe king alone, and lied to Madara. What a coward.