[Discussion] Hashirama is getting on my nerves

[kisamexRocks]

Well Madara said he only fought him to get his cells. So technically, Hashirama NEVER defeated Madara.

Well Hopefully there is a flashback of Madara killing Hashirama.

 

[~Yubel~]

lol @ the irony. Last couple of comments made by u in this thread really shows how much u care.
I disagree with your comment about Uchiha being unbeatable. Senjus were known to be the rivals of the Uchihas. Tobi despises Hashirama because Hashirama was the better ninja who BEAT him.

The guy i replied to told me to show respect and insulted me so i had to give a response cuz he didn´t show ME respect while saying i should show a cartoon character respect.
i don´t get the "irony" and i don´t really care but obviously i do care about the discussion and the thread otherwise i wouldn´t bother, neither would you.

The comment about the uchiha being unbeatable is true cuz no one beat them, the senju fanboy said that they were unbeatable but so are the uchiha, senju never beat THEM, they were the ones who wanted to make peace with the uchihas in the first place.

As for the Tobi part u mentioned, i´m not gonna assume that he´s Madara just cuz he says so and lately i´ve been doubting that he´s Madara at all.

 

[~Yubel~]

Well Madara said he only fought him to get his cells. So technically, Hashirama NEVER defeated Madara.

Well Hopefully there is a flashback of Madara killing Hashirama.

Yeah, i know, in the battles they had before the one in the final valley, they seemed to be equals, but in their final battle, u see Madara with all sorts of weapons through him, it´s almost like Hashirama didn´t need to try.

 

[Swizzik]

Hashirama had exceptionally strong chakra. It said that Hashirama himself created present day Konoha's landscape. He was chosen as a Hokage not only for his strong bloodline but for his ability to control Biju. The necklace he had was only an amplifier to his already great suppressing powers. I envy his power and even I would go and get samples of his DNA/cells to make myself stronger or obtain his powers.

But alas, he was human. Humans die. Fact of life. :/

madara is human why isnt he dead why isnt the 1st alive?
I thought strong life force = extended life...........

 

[~Yubel~]

madara is human why isnt he dead why isnt the 1st alive?
I thought strong life force = extended life...........

This^

 

[Sarutobi Sasuke]

madara is human why isnt he dead why isnt the 1st alive?
I thought strong life force = extended life...........

How did Hashirama die in any case? You make it sound like he died of old age.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

cuz he good in bed

 

[Inception]

The guy i replied to told me to show respect and insulted me so i had to give a response cuz he didn´t show ME respect while saying i should show a cartoon character respect.
i don´t get the "irony" and i don´t really care but obviously i do care about the discussion and the thread otherwise i wouldn´t bother, neither would you.

Fair enough.

The comment about the uchiha being unbeatable is true cuz no one beat them, the senju fanboy said that they were unbeatable but so are the uchiha, senju never beat THEM, they were the ones who wanted to make peace with the uchihas in the first place.

Obito was a weak Uchiha. Not all Uchiha members are invincible. Sasuke is just made out to be that way because he is Kishimoto's favourite character. Did you know that? Kishimoto loves drawing Sasuke so there's no way in hell he'll kill Sasuke off until the end of the manga.

"Despite the time and energy Kishimoto spends drawing Sasuke, Sasuke has become his favourite character to draw."

^ straight from Naruto-Wiki.

As for the Tobi part u mentioned, i´m not gonna assume that he´s Madara just cuz he says so and lately i´ve been doubting that he´s Madara at all.

I don't assume he's Madara. Whoever he is, he has got a lot of hate for Senju. He is definitely a Uchiha. Most likely Madara's younger brother, Izuna or Kagami Uchiha.

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As for people making comments about Madara "wanting" to lose. Tobi wants several things. His main goal is to destroy the Leaf. He also wants to control everyone and become the host of the 10-tails.

Now what do we know about Madara's past? We know for a fact that Madara did lose and die during the battle. Whoever Tobi is, he claims that he, Madara, did not actually die but was planning ahead for the future. In other words he knew he couldn't win vs. Hashirama. He just wanted his cells so once Hashirama died, he could destroy the Leaf village, his clan and even take over. If he was capable of killing Hashirama right then, he would have done so instead of "playing dead" and taking centuries to get his revenge.

 

[Inception]

How did Hashirama die in any case? You make it sound like he died of old age.

Hashirama did not die by old age. When he was revived by Orochimaru, he looked to be around Jiraiya's age.

Look at Edo summons. Chiyo came out just as she was; old. Nagato came out just as he was; skinny and disabled. Now look at how Hashirama and Tobirama looked when they were brought back; young.

What I personally think is that Hashirama was more like an actual tree than just his Kekkei Genkai abilities. He probably aged very slowly like trees and this made his DNA extremely useful. This is how Tobi is extending his life.

 

[Sarutobi Sasuke]

Hashirama did not die by old age. When he was revived by Orochimaru, he looked to be around Jiraiya's age.

Look at Edo summons. Chiyo came out just as she was; old. Nagato came out just as he was; skinny and disabled. Now look at how Hashirama and Tobirama looked when they were brought back; young.

What I personally think is that Hashirama was more like an actual tree than just his Kekkei Genkai abilities. He probably aged very slowly like trees and this made his DNA extremely useful. This is how Tobi is extending his life.

That makes sense. i.e. the part about Hashirama being more like a tree.

My theory has always been that his chakra nature is actually wood element. Usually only one chakra nature is dominant but maybe water and earth was co-dominant in Hashirama's case.

Hashirama could convert his chakra into a source of life and that is what made his Mokuton so effective. Maybe this "source of life" conversion is what is making Madara immortal.

That "source of life" is actually Yang chakra which means Hashirama was probably a possessor of the Yang release. Naruto's KB mode chakra is Yang chakra and that is also probably why things related to Mokuton are turning into trees when they come into contact with Naruto's cloak.

 

[laxus]

he's a savior to village like how naruto is a savior for defeating pain

 

[~Yubel~]

Obito was a weak Uchiha(what does that have to do with anything, i can also pick a weak senju......Tsunade). Not all Uchiha members are invincible(they fought senju many times and they were equals, read the manga). Sasuke is just made out to be that way because he is Kishimoto's favourite character.(he´s one of the main characters)Did you know that?(ofcourse i know and i knew that since long ago) Kishimoto loves drawing Sasuke so there's no way in hell he'll kill Sasuke off until the end of the manga.(he almost based the whole story off of sasuke, ofcourse he´s not gonna kill him!)

"Despite the time and energy Kishimoto spends drawing Sasuke, Sasuke has become his favourite character to draw."(ahhhhhh, brings back memories, i read that somewhere around 2009, i read most of the popular naruto characters, i haven´t went there for a long time, there is no reason)

^ straight from Naruto-Wiki.



I don't assume he's Madara. Whoever he is, he has got a lot of hate for Senju. He is definitely a Uchiha. Most likely Madara's younger brother, Izuna or Kagami Uchiha.(so true Izuna or Kagami, Chances of him being Kagami in my opinion is 70%, then there is also the new sasuke theory)

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As for people making comments about Madara "wanting" to lose. Tobi wants several things. His main goal is to destroy the Leaf. He also wants to control everyone and become the host of the 10-tails.

Now what do we know about Madara's past? We know for a fact that Madara did lose and die during the battle. Whoever Tobi is, he claims that he, Madara, did not actually die but was planning ahead for the future. In other words he knew he couldn't win vs. Hashirama. He just wanted his cells so once Hashirama died, he could destroy the Leaf village, his clan and even take over. If he was capable of killing Hashirama right then, he would have done so instead of "playing dead" and taking centuries to get his revenge.

True but Madara didn´t die before their final battle, they had lot more battles before the one in final valley and they were equals, hmm.............i wonder why:flaw:

 

[~Yubel~]

he's a savior to village like how naruto is a savior for defeating pain

So is Minato, and your point?

 

[|KirA|]

if i was hashirama, the girls would be really chasing after my sp**mcells lol *_*

 

[NLee]

In almost every new chapter of naruto that comes out, there is someone talking about Hashirama nowadays, when i first saw Hashirama get resurrected by oro, i was like "lets see what he can do", then later i find that ther is a dude named Yamato that has Hashiramas abilities...and that he can surpress jinchurikis, he said that Hashirama could control bijuus, this is where i get annoyed, we see that it was oro that took his cells and implanted it in 60 babies bla bla bla, we then found out he defeated an uchiha in his time, i was cool with that, then we find out that this uchiha is the strongest uchiha to ever live and then we find that this man named danzo has ten sharingans and the only reason he has enough chakra for it is cuz of Hashirama......WTF!? You mean to tell me that if he had sharingan that he could use it without any problems? What makes Hashirama so strong? We know his techniques, mokuton isn´t that difficult to counter for most shinobi, how does he have this kind of chakra? Itachi said that it would take 10 years to activate Shisuis MS if not for Hashiramas chakra, u mean to tell me that u could do something that would take 10 years of work in an instant if u had HR´s chakra?
Tsunade says that Madara took the firsts cells to extend his life.


Let me shorten this, u can extend life, control 10 sharingan without tiring with Hashiramas cells, u can use his chakra to activate MS in an instant, that would take 10 years, u can use a neklace he had to contol jinchurikis. What is this series coming to? Why is Kishi making Hashirama responsible for everything, if he´s really that strong and have such a lifeforce then shouldn´t he be alive?

What do u think about this cuz i´m getting annoyed as hell.

The reason you're getting annoyed is because you simply don't understand.

The Sage of the Six Paths had 2 sons.
The eldest son inherited the power of his eyes; his strong chakra and spiritual energy.
The youngest son inherited the power of his body; his strong willpower and physical energy.

As a descendent of the youngest son and leader of the Senju clan, Hashirama inherited power like that of his ancestor, a strong body and physical energy.

Just like how the descendents of the elder son, the Uchiha clan, inherited the power of his eyes (the Sharingan), the descendents of the younger son, the Senju clan, inherited the power of his body. That is the connection between these two rival clans.

That is the answer to all your questions. That's why a sample of Hashirama's DNA is able to do what it can. Because it contains the undiluted inheritance of the power of the younger son's strong body and physical energy.

Yamato was created using cells of Hashirama. He had similar abilities but was only a small fraction of it.

 

[PositiveEmotions]

In almost every new chapter of naruto that comes out, there is someone talking about Hashirama nowadays, when i first saw Hashirama get resurrected by oro, i was like "lets see what he can do", then later i find that ther is a dude named Yamato that has Hashiramas abilities...and that he can surpress jinchurikis, he said that Hashirama could control bijuus, this is where i get annoyed, we see that it was oro that took his cells and implanted it in 60 babies bla bla bla, we then found out he defeated an uchiha in his time, i was cool with that, then we find out that this uchiha is the strongest uchiha to ever live and then we find that this man named danzo has ten sharingans and the only reason he has enough chakra for it is cuz of Hashirama......WTF!? You mean to tell me that if he had sharingan that he could use it without any problems? What makes Hashirama so strong? We know his techniques, mokuton isn´t that difficult to counter for most shinobi, how does he have this kind of chakra? Itachi said that it would take 10 years to activate Shisuis MS if not for Hashiramas chakra, u mean to tell me that u could do something that would take 10 years of work in an instant if u had HR´s chakra?
Tsunade says that Madara took the firsts cells to extend his life.


Let me shorten this, u can extend life, control 10 sharingan without tiring with Hashiramas cells, u can use his chakra to activate MS in an instant, that would take 10 years, u can use a neklace he had to contol jinchurikis. What is this series coming to? Why is Kishi making Hashirama responsible for everything, if he´s really that strong and have such a lifeforce then shouldn´t he be alive?

What do u think about this cuz i´m getting annoyed as hell.

your getting on kishi's nerves lol jk who cares man its obvious why his so loved

 

[Swizzik]

Hashirama did not die by old age. When he was revived by Orochimaru, he looked to be around Jiraiya's age.

Look at Edo summons. Chiyo came out just as she was; old. Nagato came out just as he was; skinny and disabled. Now look at how Hashirama and Tobirama looked when they were brought back; young.

What I personally think is that Hashirama was more like an actual tree than just his Kekkei Genkai abilities. He probably aged very slowly like trees and this made his DNA extremely useful. This is how Tobi is extending his life.

wait so are you saying that someone killed the 1st?

 

[NLee]

wait so are you saying that someone killed the 1st?

It's not impossible. Muu has the Dust Release and the Raikage, Tsunade, Shikaku and Oonoki said that only someone who also has the Dust Release could beat him. Yet, apparently the 2nd Mizukage defeated him in battle. Albeit at the cost of his own life

 

[Inception]

wait so are you saying that someone killed the 1st?

Yes. It seems that way.

 

[psukkar]

Hashirama did not die by old age. When he was revived by Orochimaru, he looked to be around Jiraiya's age.

Look at Edo summons. Chiyo came out just as she was; old. Nagato came out just as he was; skinny and disabled. Now look at how Hashirama and Tobirama looked when they were brought back; young.

What I personally think is that Hashirama was more like an actual tree than just his Kekkei Genkai abilities. He probably aged very slowly like trees and this made his DNA extremely useful. This is how Tobi is extending his life.

hey that makes sense, madara is doing it and isnt even senju so why not.

Good post