[Discussion] Hashirama is getting on my nerves

[~Yubel~]

In almost every new chapter of naruto that comes out, there is someone talking about Hashirama nowadays, when i first saw Hashirama get resurrected by oro, i was like "lets see what he can do", then later i find that ther is a dude named Yamato that has Hashiramas abilities...and that he can surpress jinchurikis, he said that Hashirama could control bijuus, this is where i get annoyed, we see that it was oro that took his cells and implanted it in 60 babies bla bla bla, we then found out he defeated an uchiha in his time, i was cool with that, then we find out that this uchiha is the strongest uchiha to ever live and then we find that this man named danzo has ten sharingans and the only reason he has enough chakra for it is cuz of Hashirama......WTF!? You mean to tell me that if he had sharingan that he could use it without any problems? What makes Hashirama so strong? We know his techniques, mokuton isn´t that difficult to counter for most shinobi, how does he have this kind of chakra? Itachi said that it would take 10 years to activate Shisuis MS if not for Hashiramas chakra, u mean to tell me that u could do something that would take 10 years of work in an instant if u had HR´s chakra?
Tsunade says that Madara took the firsts cells to extend his life.


Let me shorten this, u can extend life, control 10 sharingan without tiring with Hashiramas cells, u can use his chakra to activate MS in an instant, that would take 10 years, u can use a neklace he had to contol jinchurikis. What is this series coming to? Why is Kishi making Hashirama responsible for everything, if he´s really that strong and have such a lifeforce then shouldn´t he be alive?

What do u think about this cuz i´m getting annoyed as hell.

 

[Zawar]

i never thought you have nerves

well thats bcz he's the first hokage
i hate it too but he has to have a name and fame

 

[Mr.Beastie]

true i dont think his mokuton got him fmous just his sealing techs

 

[protentiality]

i don't find it annoying,but you're right i don't know why kishi made him responsible for everything and his chakra so valuable

 

[4iwby]

Probably because he is a relative to SO6P

 

[Jokule67]

true i dont think his mokuton got him fmous just his sealing techs

hashiramas mokuton was super stong cuz of his life force. he founded the villege with tht technique. yamato is just a cheap knock-off u cant compare his mokuton with hashiramas. yamato is not a perfect clone if he was he wud have huge life energy which he doesnt and his mokuton wud be stronger. hashirama also uses lots of weapens and scrolls which i think i saw in this picture once.

 

[Lord Snow]

because hes a descendant of the sage and had life in his chakra like naruto do in kyubi mode

 

[bajram]

cuz he's amazing.....

 

[JojocIaw]

Hashirama had exceptionally strong chakra. It said that Hashirama himself created present day Konoha's landscape. He was chosen as a Hokage not only for his strong bloodline but for his ability to control Biju. The necklace he had was only an amplifier to his already great suppressing powers. I envy his power and even I would go and get samples of his DNA/cells to make myself stronger or obtain his powers.

But alas, he was human. Humans die. Fact of life. :/

 

[Olorin]

he can complete the Uchiha side of the SO6P with his Senju side the best since hes the best representative

 

[Hipster Madara]

i think its pretty cool but its pissing me off that he is so important and his chakra/cell have so much value in the story and all that but we have never even really seen him other than in madara's flashback
if he is that important i want to know more about him and not just see everyone admire him
btw: he has atleast 2 stalkers (tobi+orochimaru and maybe even danzou) i feel kinda bad for him

 

[try1x07]

Ok
Here to settle this arguement

Is Granny Fiddle with her newest recipe!

Infintite Izanagi!

Me: Please grandma? Please tell us how its done!
Granny: Well first, we add 1 Sharingan eye
Me: Mhmm
Granny: Then we add a pinch of Senju DNA
Me: Yes, I see
Granny: 1 Rinnegan eye, very rare
Me: I see!
Granny: And to make it complete! 1 Granny Fiddle Lemon Meringue pie!
Me: I see! It all makes sense now! Where did you find the recipe to that?
Granny: Its on the Uchiha tablet dontcha know?
Me: Doesnt that mean your an uchiha?
Granny: Retard, Im Madara!!!!
Me: Thats not to hard to udnerstand... You have a boner...
Madara: :I
Me: -_-'
Madara: Er, Um.
Me: Im gonna leave now... Good luck with your Izanagi
Madara: Um! Wait! Please stay! Im lonely! Oh well, at least I have you Sasuke!
Sasuke: Im outta here!

 

[the narukudo]

Ok
Here to settle this arguement

Is Granny Fiddle with her newest recipe!

Infintite Izanagi!

Me: Please grandma? Please tell us how its done!
Granny: Well first, we add 1 Sharingan eye
Me: Mhmm
Granny: Then we add a pinch of Senju DNA
Me: Yes, I see
Granny: 1 Rinnegan eye, very rare
Me: I see!
Granny: And to make it complete! 1 Granny Fiddle Lemon Meringue pie!
Me: I see! It all makes sense now! Where did you find the recipe to that?
Granny: Its on the Uchiha tablet dontcha know?
Me: Doesnt that mean your an uchiha?
Granny: Retard, Im Madara!!!!
Me: Thats not to hard to udnerstand... You have a boner...
Madara: :I
Me: -_-'
Madara: Er, Um.
Me: Im gonna leave now... Good luck with your Izanagi
Madara: Um! Wait! Please stay! Im lonely! Oh well, at least I have you Sasuke!
Sasuke: Im outta here!

hahaaaaa funny very funny

 

[I Am Pein]

not funny.....

 

[D3A]

Its simply cuz Hashirama was a senju, a member of a clan known for their skills, talent, longevity, and epicness. Hashirama was the leader of that clan, making him the strongest of the one of the 2 strongest clans, he beat Madara, who was probably the toughest Uchiha at that time(probably still) making Hashirama THE strongest ninja of his time and arguably ever. When you get power hungry douches like madara, and Oro, etc. that want to be stronger or gain powah, you go the the strongest source, in this case, that source is hashirama.

His senju longevity and vitality amped up Danzos Koto Amaterthingy, kept Madara alive, allowed Madara to make a bunch of Zetsu's, and through Yamato, buff up those Zetsus into Hostile SteroiPlants.

Hashirama = The Ish and when your on top, EVERYONE wants a piece of you, unfortunately for Hashirama, the pieces they wanted were at a cellular level :/. Not to mention wood style is EFFING AWESOME

 

[Floydical]

I agree with you, it is very annoying that Hashirama now seems to have a connection to everything in the series. However, the worst part of it all is that Hashirama and his powers were a singular, freak occurrence in the ninja world. Ever since the sage's time, the first hokage is the only one we know of that was born the ability to use wood release. Its quite frustrating that a freak occurrence has so much importance to the ninja world.

 

[leafeater]

In almost every new chapter of naruto that comes out, there is someone talking about Hashirama nowadays, when i first saw Hashirama get resurrected by oro, i was like "lets see what he can do", then later i find that ther is a dude named Yamato that has Hashiramas abilities...and that he can surpress jinchurikis, he said that Hashirama could control bijuus, this is where i get annoyed, we see that it was oro that took his cells and implanted it in 60 babies bla bla bla, we then found out he defeated an uchiha in his time, i was cool with that, then we find out that this uchiha is the strongest uchiha to ever live and then we find that this man named danzo has ten sharingans and the only reason he has enough chakra for it is cuz of Hashirama......WTF!? You mean to tell me that if he had sharingan that he could use it without any problems? What makes Hashirama so strong? We know his techniques, mokuton isn´t that difficult to counter for most shinobi, how does he have this kind of chakra? Itachi said that it would take 10 years to activate Shisuis MS if not for Hashiramas chakra, u mean to tell me that u could do something that would take 10 years of work in an instant if u had HR´s chakra?
Tsunade says that Madara took the firsts cells to extend his life.


Let me shorten this, u can extend life, control 10 sharingan without tiring with Hashiramas cells, u can use his chakra to activate MS in an instant, that would take 10 years, u can use a neklace he had to contol jinchurikis. What is this series coming to? Why is Kishi making Hashirama responsible for everything, if he´s really that strong and have such a lifeforce then shouldn´t he be alive?

What do u think about this cuz i´m getting annoyed as hell.

First, I'd like to commend you on writing a post that conveys your irritation in a way that retains a well written criticism. It's concise, logical, etc. without resorting to rants or other such barbarism. Cheers.

Regarding Hashirama, he's different than everyone, including every Senju. Tobirama and the other Senju for whatever reason don't have the Yang-release. I think this has to do with a generational effect of Madara/Hashirama being near reincarnations of the sons of the Sage of 6 Paths. Recall, both sons are incomplete versions of the So6P's as his power was split between them and has never been reunited since with the power of the eyes going to the elder son and the power of the body going to the younger. Thus, if Hashirama wanted to be complete, he'd need Uchiha DNA and a Sharingan, lol. Madara, wanted to be complete, so he went and got Hashirama's DNA and incorporated it at the cost of becoming a ghost/shell of his former self as stated by Itachi to Sasuke and by himself to the 4 Kage when he revealed the Moon's Eye plan.

I would say that the baseline Senju or Uchiha is always incomplete, but I doubt Shisui himself had to wait 10 years for his genjutsu to work again, as that's lame. Ao must've been really powerful or Shisui must've been in a really bad condition to waste a 10 year jutsu on an elite jounin, which leads me to believe he could possibly recharge it in less time. I couldn't tell if that only applied to Itachi or Shisui also.

Nonetheless, I think the whole hubbub is about being complete. As powerful as the Uchiha and Senju are, they're just fractions of the So6P's whose power's have been split since the first sons, preventing either clan and its descendants from ever reaching their full potential. Madara is attempting to do this by cheating with his DNA tricks and reviving the Juubi, but there's too many things he's borrowing, to put it nicely, at once for things not to go wrong. That's really all that's going on.

This cycle should repeat with Sasuke and Naruto, so I'm a bit confused by Madara's recent actions. Initially, it seemed Madara was determined to repeat this with Naruto and Sasuke saying he would make them fight if necessary (when he spoke to Naruto during the Kage conference), but just recently he said something like, "Today will be the last day that the Senju will of fire will burn" when he set out with his own 6 paths of pain, so who knows what he's up to.

Side Note: Really, the only one who seems to have had both powerful eyes (Rinnegan) and body chakra (large supply + Uzumaki) is Nagato, with a vision of peace through pain and power, but he was crippled at a young age from Hanzou's fire jutsu and syncing with Gedo Mazo. If that hand't of happened, he'd be scary considering how powerful was as a cripple. He's still a bit of a mystery as to how he came to be, and how he fits into the story's Madara has told. Jiraiya has said the Rinnegan appears, according to legend, at times of war and unrest, so I think that that's most likely.

Peace

 

[JojocIaw]

First, I'd like to commend you on writing a post that conveys your irritation in a way that retains a well written criticism. It's concise, logical, etc. without resorting to rants or other such barbarism. Cheers.

Regarding Hashirama, he's different than everyone, including every Senju. Tobirama and the other Senju for whatever reason don't have the Yang-release. I think this has to do with a generational effect of Madara/Hashirama being near reincarnations of the sons of the Sage of 6 Paths. Recall, both sons are incomplete versions of the So6P's as his power was split between them and has never been reunited since with the power of the eyes going to the elder son and the power of the body going to the younger. Thus, if Hashirama wanted to be complete, he'd need Uchiha DNA and a Sharingan, lol. Madara, wanted to be complete, so he went and got Hashirama's DNA and incorporated it at the cost of becoming a ghost/shell of his former self as stated by Itachi to Sasuke and by himself to the 4 Kage when he revealed the Moon's Eye plan.

I would say that the baseline Senju or Uchiha is always incomplete, but I doubt Shisui himself had to wait 10 years for his genjutsu to work again, as that's lame. Ao must've been really powerful or Shisui must've been in a really bad condition to waste a 10 year jutsu on an elite jounin, which leads me to believe he could possibly recharge it in less time. I couldn't tell if that only applied to Itachi or Shisui also.

Nonetheless, I think the whole hubbub is about being complete. As powerful as the Uchiha and Senju are, they're just fractions of the So6P's whose power's have been split since the first sons, preventing either clan and its descendants from ever reaching their full potential. Madara is attempting to do this by cheating with his DNA tricks and reviving the Juubi, but there's too many things he's borrowing, to put it nicely, at once for things not to go wrong. That's really all that's going on.

This cycle should repeat with Sasuke and Naruto, so I'm a bit confused by Madara's recent actions. Initially, it seemed Madara was determined to repeat this with Naruto and Sasuke saying he would make them fight if necessary (when he spoke to Naruto during the Kage conference), but just recently he said something like, "Today will be the last day that the Senju will of fire will burn" when he set out with his own 6 paths of pain, so who knows what he's up to.

Side Note: Really, the only one who seems to have had both powerful eyes (Rinnegan) and body chakra (large supply + Uzumaki) is Nagato, with a vision of peace through pain and power, but he was crippled at a young age from Hanzou's fire jutsu and syncing with Gedo Mazo. If that hand't of happened, he'd be scary considering how powerful was as a cripple. He's still a bit of a mystery as to how he came to be, and how he fits into the story's Madara has told. Jiraiya has said the Rinnegan appears, according to legend, at times of war and unrest, so I think that that's most likely.

Peace

Superb. Nice way of explaining it. Looks well thought out and you made some interesting points.

+Rep

 

[veggetta13]

Mokuton + fire= more fire.. How the hell did that chimp beat on Madara?

 

[uzumakiclan101]

as far as we know,Hashirama had no idea or intentions to live forever,his legacy is
THE WILL OF FIRE.
It wouldnt be passing on the WILL OF FIRE to the next generation.If he lived forever.There wouldve been only one hokage history.BORING!

On the other hand Madara was seeking for much more than be equals, he wanted to crush the senju and its legacy so he sought other means and discovered the so6p legacy
And so he sought after hashirama as everybody has also discovered of the two sons of the sage as well.

Hashirama was powerful but he believed in the WILL OF FIRE as those after him have and entrusted the future to the next generations of Shinobi.That is why he was favored by the So6p.The youngest believed in a future ruled by Peace and Order,Not by Power and Mutiny!
(As Madaras Plan suggest)