Han vs Roshi

[Sensational]

its chapter 572 and kyubis TBB was powerful enough to overpower the combined power of the TBB of 6 tailed beasts, this speaks for itself


Based on manga facts and feats, Shukaku is clearly the weakest

It didnt overpower it at all... if anything it was of equal strength and really it probably wasnt.

Like the 8 tails said naruto didnt hit the TBB head on he hit just under it which changed its trajectory upward. It simply exploded in the air.
Tbb are like Water ballons if you hit catch it or soften its impact it wont explode however in this case it was more like two missles charging at each other an one exploding which caused the other to explode

more proof, he destroyed 6 bijuus at the same time, theres no refuting

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Thats only 2 and the 8 tails caught the one rolling towards naruto, just refuted it.

 

[Obito3631]

Shukaku isn't the weakest. That is like I stated earlier an opinion.

Based on manga feats he is.
According to Kurama, he also is.

but it's alright if you think otherwise.

 

[Sensational]

Based on manga feats he is.
According to Kurama, he also is.

but it's alright if you think otherwise.

And according to the 8 tails he isnt

 

[Obito3631]

And according to the 8 tails he isnt

There are more evidences that prove he is the weakest than the other way around.

 

[Sensational]

There are more evidences that prove he is the weakest than the other way around.

No there isnt, all weve seen the kyuubi do is TBB, which can be deflected, blocked or caught by the sand.

 

[DrProof]

Based on manga feats he is.
Also, according to Kurama, he also is.

but it's alright if you think otherwise.

Based on manga feats he is? What? Solo'd Gamabunta. Enabled The Third Kazekage (The Strongest Kazekage we know) to create Iron Sand, had to be defeated by The 4th Kazekage's Gold Sand in which he also created to defeat Shukaku. Empowered Gaara to defeat Sasuke.

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That's so weak right?

 

[Obito3631]

No there isnt, all weve seen the kyuubi do is TBB, which can be deflected, blocked or caught by the sand.

I guess you didnt see the manga pages Ive psoted above then. Kyubi and Gyuki would have been overwhelmed by the 6 bijuus if what you say was true, yet they literally mopped the floor with them. So yes there is.

There is more evidences on my side.

 

[Lightbringer]

Does that even make sense? Gold Sand is regular sands weakness, as it slows down the regular sand; basically paralysis. It's like saying an opponent is weak because he/she has a fire element, and loses to a water element user.. That makes no kind of sense.

Nagato witnessed all the bijuu, and it showed the akatsuki capture them with ease....yet Nagato was amazed with only the kyuubi's six tailed form

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Even Hashirama feared its power so much that he decided to seal it and he was noted to be the god of shinobi

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[Obito3631]

Based on manga feats he is? What? Solo'd Gamabunta. Enabled The Third Kazekage (The Strongest Kazekage we know) to create Iron Sand, had to be defeated by The 4th Kazekage's Gold Sand in which he also created to defeat Shukaku. Empowered Gaara to defeat Sasuke.

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That's so weak right?

She clearly says that the previous jinchuriki of Shukaku developped that jutsu, Shuakku has nothing to do with this
Soloing gamabunta isnt a feat, Deva Path one shoted him yet he got destroyed by 6 tailed Kyubi

Yes he is indeed weak compared to the other bijuus who have actually shown the capability to do a TBB.

 

[Obito3631]

Nagato witnessed all the bijuu, and it showed the akatsuki capture them with ease....yet Nagato was amazed with only the kyuubi's six tailed form

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Even Hashirama feared its power so much that he decided to seal it and he was noted to be the god of shinobi

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Very nice proofs, I agree.

 

[DrProof]

Nagato witnessed all the bijuu, and it showed the akatsuki capture them with ease....yet Nagato was amazed with only the kyuubi's six tailed form

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Even Hashirama feared its power so much that he decided to seal it and he was noted to be the god of shinobi

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She clearly says that the previous jinchuriki of Shukaku developped that jutsu, Shuakku has nothing to do with this
Soloing gamabunta isnt a feat, Deva Path one shoted him yet he got destroyed by 6 tailed Kyubi

Yes he is indeed weak compared to the other bijuus who have actually shown the capability to do a TBB.

I just noticed something.. Why are you guys arguing for Kurama? I know very well Kurama > Shukaku. But Shukaku isn't the weakest; why don't you argue for the other Bijuu's (Hachibi is most likely also above Shukaku, but the others? I don't think so).

 

[Sensational]

I guess you didnt see the manga pages Ive psoted above then. Kyubi and Gyuki would have been overwhelmed by the 6 bijuus if what you say was true, yet they literally mopped the floor with them. So yes there is.

There is more evidences on my side.

Except the kyuubi was being overwhelmed, the battle itself didnt even last that long and ended with naruto simply pulling out the rods, thats not an accurate way to show there strength, and right after that Obito basically said screw everyting and summoned the buuji.

 

[Obito3631]

I just noticed something.. Why are you guys arguing for Kurama? I know very well Kurama > Shukaku. But Shukaku isn't the weakest; why don't you argue for the other Bijuu's (Hachibi is most likely also above Shukaku, but the others? I don't think so).

We havent seen enough from the others. It is also clear that Hachibi is the second strongest, so again it proves that Kurama was right. And based on feats and Kuirama's belief, Shukaku is indeed the weakest.

 

[Obito3631]

Except the kyuubi was being overwhelmed, the battle itself didnt even last that long and ended with naruto simply pulling out the rods, thats not an accurate way to show there strength, and right after that Obito basically said screw everyting and summoned the buuji.

And...? They were still outnumbered, it was 2 vs 6 and they still mopped the floor with them. Normally, according to your claims, it should have been the other way around yet it wasn't. Kurama countered 6 TBB with a single one, that also proves me right.

 

[Sensational]

We havent seen enough from the others. It is also clear that Hachibi is the second strongest, so again it proves that Kurama was right. And based on feats and Kuirama's belief, Shukaku is indeed the weakest.

Based on feats tails 2-7 are the weakest as they have no feats.

 

[DrProof]

We havent seen enough from the others. It is also clear that Hachibi is the second strongest, so again it proves that Kurama was right. And based on feats and Kuirama's belief, Shukaku is indeed the weakest.

Done. Case, and Point. Shukaku is 3rd strongest.

 

[Obito3631]

Based on feats tails 2-7 are the weakest as they have no feats.

I guess you havent read the manga then, 2-7 were fighting alongside against Kyubi and Hachibi and were getting destroyed.

 

[Obito3631]

Done. Case, and Point. Shukaku is 3rd strongest.

Youre forgetting the fact that Shukaku cant do a TBB while 2-7 can, that puts them largely above Shukaku. He is actually the weakest

 

[Lightbringer]

I just noticed something.. Why are you guys arguing for Kurama? I know very well Kurama > Shukaku. But Shukaku isn't the weakest; why don't you argue for the other Bijuu's (Hachibi is most likely also above Shukaku, but the others? I don't think so).

Are you sure about that? That's not what you originally said....

The Kyuubi isn't the strongest. Due to us not seeing any Bijuu host going as far as Naruto in progression we can determine that Naruto is the strongest Jin. However, as a tailed beast solely? Kurama is not the strongest. I'd argue Shukaku is the strongest of the nine.

Saying the Kyuubi was right when Hachibi iterated his rebuttal is an opinion. The fact is; the absence of evidence, isn't the evidence of absence.

 

[Sensational]

And...? They were still outnumbered, it was 2 vs 6 and they still mopped the floor with them. Normally, according to your claims, it should have been the other way around yet it wasn't. Kurama countered 6 TBB with a single one, that also proves me right.

It was only 5 and changing something trajectory isnt the same as overpowering or blocking something.

3 rashan gates changed the trajectory of a susanoo blade tbb, does that make it stronger than the tbb no.