george zimmerman was found not guilty..

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Re: Zimmerman trail

Because following someone is illegal.

Trayvon should have been the better person to walk away or at the very least, ask what he was doing. Is it hard to say, "What do you want/What are you doing? I'm just going to my dads house"?

Instead he decided to assault him.
He was provoked, and Zimmerman was in the wrong the second the dispatcher said "we don't need you to do that", he basically took the law in his own hands and was already out for blood, talking about how "these @$$holes always get away" He's a wannabe vigilante, at the very least he should've gotten manslaughter, it all started and ended with him.
 

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Re: Zimmerman trail

Because following someone is illegal.

Trayvon should have been the better person to walk away or at the very least, ask what he was doing. Is it hard to say, "What do you want/What are you doing? I'm just going to my dads house"?

Instead he decided to assault him.
So if a huge mofo was following you for no reason with a gun, what would you do? I'm curious
 

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Alright you walk up to a random creepy guy following you, asking what you want and wat are you doing? Next thing you know, you got rape or kidnapped.
That's just one of the options. He ran away didn't he? Too bad he was stupid enough to come back and confront him violently.

So if a huge mofo was following you for no reason with a gun, what would you do? I'm curious
I'd run like Trayvon did. I'm saying that asking what the hell that person was doing would be another option but running is better. Trayvon didn't know he had a gun though, if he did he probably wouldn't have confronted him.
 
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You don't know what transpired, but we do know a dispatcher told Zimmerman stand down and he ignored them.
Well there are only 2 credible people, one is dead so you have to go with the other.

Also, 911 dispatchers do not have authority over people.
Edit: the dispatcher specifically said "We don't need you to do that". That's not an explicit order.
 
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Well I know this much, Zimmerman was the active aggressor in this case, He was told to not chase the boy by the authorities and he ignored them, and because of that it resulted in the death of someone. Zimmerman was not innocent by any means as far as I can tell, but the case was in Florida, is anyone honestly surprised by the verdict? I'm not, especially with the jury they had, omg it was such a farce.
 

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Well I know this much, Zimmerman was the active aggressor in this case, He was told to not chase the boy by the authorities and he ignored them, and because of that it resulted in the death of someone. Zimmerman was not innocent by any means as far as I can tell, but the case was in Florida, is anyone honestly surprised by the verdict? I'm not, especially with the jury they had, omg it was such a farce.
Are you kidding me? The jury was all women, one a mother. The prosecution were practically trying to get a guilty verdict from emotions rather than facts.
 

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All jurors were white with one Hispanic. I highly doubt that was the case
Trying to make woman experience the loss of a child would be much worse than having someone who's the same race of you get convicted for a crime. I say that the prosecution had the edge with that jury.
 
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Are you kidding me? The jury was all women, one a mother. The prosecution were practically trying to get a guilty verdict from emotions rather than facts.
normally juries have 12 ppl, which in my mind makes for a better more honest deliberation, this one had 6. it all boiled down to a black or white issue, and the jury was predominantly white, I'm not saying that those white women were racist or biased, but they kept black ppl off of that jury for a reason. The writings on the wall, that's for sure.
 

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Re: George Zimmerman found not guilty

I pity you.
Why, because I see the world for what it is?

I have done considerable amounts of work with the public. There are various incarnations of [derogatory term] all over. Some live in trailers and cook meth. Others live in rotted out apartments and wear their pants around their ankles.

They all have an entitlement mentality and all believe the world is out to get them. They'll use race, ***, economic status, etc to justify their behavior and predicament that is, mostly, self-engineered. They come in all shapes and colors, and while they all tend to exist at the same economic class; many have been those who reject functional and productive lifestyles that they were originally born into.

I have no pity for them. They try and bully their way around, using race and raw physical intimidation to get their way. They kill each other in their attempts to act tough and push each other around (like they do everyone else). Then, they get outraged when someone of another color or economic class calls their bluff and kills their stupid ass while he's trying to push others around.

But you all have enabled and created this system. You don't push these miscreants out of your communities. You accept a revolving-door prisoner system and oppose the death penalty.

You deserve every ounce of the destruction it causes to your society. Every ounce. Every death. All of them are on the hands of your collective social incompetence because you refuse to see the truth of the matter. You pass aid programs so that these people can afford to breed like rabbits. You pass laws that enable the charging of 'hate' crimes that bring race into the court room as a means of determining proper sentencing. You elect public officials who run with race as a primary part of their campaign (but because they are a minority - if they get elected because they are a minority, it means racism is over, right?).

It's so pathetic it's hilarious.

Remember? The election of our beloved President? How it was such a huge indicator that we've gotten over racism and that equality was the new standard?

Our society is filled with a bunch of tools.

Yeah - I come off like an arrogant prick. Is it any wonder why? To someone who can tell you exactly what the consequences of your decisions are going to be; be told I'm wrong... and then watch people suffer the consequences I specifically told them would happen time and time and time again... I have to wonder if you all are actually capable of thought, let alone the intelligent variety.

Then you all get together and vote for the person who is merely of average intelligence who knows enough to tell you what you want to hear.

Drones. The lot of you.

Even when you have freedom, you vote yourself into various forms of slavery and servitude because you're too incompetent to realize when you're being used.

*flips over a table*

There.

Now that I've raged a bit for today about the stupidity of the general public, I'll have a peaceful prayer for the return of small pox, the zombie apocalypse, or just a giant ****ing meteor.
 

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Re: George Zimmerman found not guilty

Why, because I see the world for what it is?

I have done considerable amounts of work with the public. There are various incarnations of [derogatory term] all over. Some live in trailers and cook meth. Others live in rotted out apartments and wear their pants around their ankles.

They all have an entitlement mentality and all believe the world is out to get them. They'll use race, ***, economic status, etc to justify their behavior and predicament that is, mostly, self-engineered. They come in all shapes and colors, and while they all tend to exist at the same economic class; many have been those who reject functional and productive lifestyles that they were originally born into.

I have no pity for them. They try and bully their way around, using race and raw physical intimidation to get their way. They kill each other in their attempts to act tough and push each other around (like they do everyone else). Then, they get outraged when someone of another color or economic class calls their bluff and kills their stupid ass while he's trying to push others around.

But you all have enabled and created this system. You don't push these miscreants out of your communities. You accept a revolving-door prisoner system and oppose the death penalty.

You deserve every ounce of the destruction it causes to your society. Every ounce. Every death. All of them are on the hands of your collective social incompetence because you refuse to see the truth of the matter. You pass aid programs so that these people can afford to breed like rabbits. You pass laws that enable the charging of 'hate' crimes that bring race into the court room as a means of determining proper sentencing. You elect public officials who run with race as a primary part of their campaign (but because they are a minority - if they get elected because they are a minority, it means racism is over, right?).

It's so pathetic it's hilarious.

Remember? The election of our beloved President? How it was such a huge indicator that we've gotten over racism and that equality was the new standard?

Our society is filled with a bunch of tools.

Yeah - I come off like an arrogant prick. Is it any wonder why? To someone who can tell you exactly what the consequences of your decisions are going to be; be told I'm wrong... and then watch people suffer the consequences I specifically told them would happen time and time and time again... I have to wonder if you all are actually capable of thought, let alone the intelligent variety.

Then you all get together and vote for the person who is merely of average intelligence who knows enough to tell you what you want to hear.

Drones. The lot of you.

Even when you have freedom, you vote yourself into various forms of slavery and servitude because you're too incompetent to realize when you're being used.

*flips over a table*

There.

Now that I've raged a bit for today about the stupidity of the general public, I'll have a peaceful prayer for the return of small pox, the zombie apocalypse, or just a giant ****ing meteor.
The terms “you" and “your" only supports the fact that you have some sort of racism inside of you. Let's get this straight, We are ALL equal. Don't try and blame the minority on where this piss poor country is at today.
 

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so let me get this straight you can follow after a another person and confront them and if they resist you can kill them without any consequence WOW what has this world come to where you can't take a walk back home without being racially profiled
The thing is, however, that the profiling was dead-on.

Martin could have gone home. Martin, instead, eluded Zimmerman, then surprised him.

Exactly what happened after that is only known by Zimmerman and Martin. The fact of the matter is, though, that Zimmerman had contusions on the back of his head and had been pinned to the ground on his back, as well as having a bloodied nose. Martin had a single gunshot wound that ended up being fatal.

No, you cannot 'hunt' someone.

That said - if someone is following you, and you then attack them (which is what all of the physical evidence in this case suggests) - that person still has the legal right to self-defense.

I wish that the prosecution did a better job; there was alot of evidence against zimmerman including the pieces of evidence/ stories that he provided which were simply inconsistent
Garbage in - garbage out.

The Prosecution had absolutely nothing to work with. None of the physical evidence supported the theory that Zimmerman escalated the confrontation to deadly force. All of the physical evidence suggests that it was Martin who initially escalated the use of force to deadly force.

To carry a firearm for the military, we had to be able to rattle this stuff off the top of our heads at any random request:

Deadly Force: "Force that a person uses causing, or that a person knows or should know would create a substantial risk of causing, death or serious bodily harm."

Serious Bodily Harm: "Does not include minor injuries such as a black eye or bloody nose. But does include broken or dislocated bones, deep cuts or torn members of the body, serious damage to internal organs and any other life threatening injury."



That is also relevant, and illustrates the concepts that are beat into our heads because we are legally accountable to them.

What all of this boils down to is that someone like myself operating in a security position within the military would have -any- discharge of my weapon poured over considerably, and -any- incident involving the use of physical force would be subjected to huge amounts of organizational oversight and outside investigations. Were I Zimmerman - it would have been a "good shoot." The use of force was appropriate for the threat presented. It was an unintentional and unfortunate consequence that Martin died, but the threat was ceased.

Civilians are not nearly as heavily regulated in their use of force and the same legal restrictions do not apply.

There simply was no case for murder here. Manslaughter would have been an over-charge.

The terms “you" and “your" only supports the fact that you have some sort of racism inside of you. Let's get this straight, We are ALL equal. Don't try and blame the minority on where this piss poor country is at today.
Kid, by "You" I mean people of roughly average intelligence. Even those rated as 'slightly above average' are horribly primitive in thought and cranial capacity by my standards.

We are not equal. Bluntly, when it comes to intellectual pursuits - people such as yourself are useful as sources of information and experiences that are difficult for people like myself to have, being limited to only being able to be in one place at one time. That, and as people to train to do physical tasks en masse that would require years of labor on our individual parts to achieve.

Doesn't matter what color you are.

I'm more red than I am white, in terms of physical color (though my primary lineage is German). The Cherokee, for whatever reason, expresses rather strongly in me.

You're all equally hideous offenses to skin tones and have the intelligence of a sea sponge until you demonstrate otherwise.
 
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Riots to come and he'll probably get his ass shot the hell up. Surprising he escaped prison, unfortunately. Going to try to keep my cool about this.

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So if a huge mofo was following you for no reason with a gun, what would you do? I'm curious
For starters, his firearm is concealed. I do not know it exists.

Generally speaking, if someone is following me, I'm going to turn around and ask if I can be of some service to them, since they seem to be seeking my council.

If I just get the willies about him, I'm going to just keep walking. I'll walk in circles, go to a public place, etc. Depending - I may just go home.

If it's a girl, I'm going to pull a Myroku and ask if she wants to bear my children.

Well I know this much, Zimmerman was the active aggressor in this case, He was told to not chase the boy by the authorities and he ignored them, and because of that it resulted in the death of someone.
Zimmerman was not the active aggressor.

You're confusing two separate situations. If I chase you down because I want to know where you bought that awesome coat you're wearing - I'm not responsible for your decision to whip around and knock me in the face.

Further, I'm not responsible for your decision to pin me to the ground and begin slamming my head against the concrete.

Initiating contact and instigating hostilities are two different things.

Zimmerman was not innocent by any means as far as I can tell, but the case was in Florida, is anyone honestly surprised by the verdict? I'm not, especially with the jury they had, omg it was such a farce.
Well, there's a reason you're not in charge of anything important.

It's because of this thing called "intellectualism." Apparently, if you don't think the things that some group of people think are correct, you're disqualified from working in certain places.

Just because they built the transistor based upon this theory with their "right answers" doesn't mean they have the right to say what is and isn't correct or who is and who isn't qualified to perform certain jobs. You should push for intellectual equality. I don't think you quite realize the discrimination that you're suffering.
 

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Re: Zimmerman Trial Verdict

I grew up to not base my assumptions on appearances and preconceptions of people. I am of a blended family, whether the color of their skin is white or black is irrelevant to me because I love them all the same. Their personality is what ultimately decides on how I view them, same goes for the people that I've come to call my friends and peers. I believe the Racism card is highly abused in this world. I also agree that racism still flows in this world as well, but I believe if you are quick to pull that card without seeing the forest for the trees you are as pathetic as the ones who actually judge you.

1. Would Zimmerman really tail Trayvon with an intent to kill knowing the police were on their way? Who knows?
2. Did Trayvon have time to explain his situation when he was being Zimmerman's face in with a brick? Probably, MMA fighter?
3. What was Trayvon's history like? What do we associate Guns, drugs, and fight clubs with regardless of color?
4. Should Zimmerman have pursued him? No he shouldn't have.

It's not like Zimmerman got off as easy as people think. This will change his life forever, job's, and not only him but his family will always be in jeopardy as well. Always looking over his shoulder in fear.
 

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Why do people care so much about treyvon. They were thousands of people who died before him and after and I'm sure you don't know who the f they are or care. U_U
 
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He is so guilty.
I swear, you can murder anyone now and days, claim self-defense and just be found non-guilty.
If he would have just stayed his azz away from the kid, like the cops said, maybe he wouldn't gotten beaten up. Also if he was going to defend himself. it could have least done it with his fist, fist to fist. No need to pull out a gun and kill the guy.
Self-defense my azz.
 
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Meanwhile hundreds of other court cases across the country are completely ignored because this is the only court case that matters.

So where were the rioters when Obama signed a bill that gave Homeland Security full authority to shut down any communication system at their discretion.

Damn plebs
 
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Meanwhile hundreds of other court cases across the country are completely ignored because this is the only court case that matters.

So where were the rioters when Obama signed a bill that gave Homeland Security full authority to shut down any communication system at their discretion.

Damn plebs
That's what happens when everyone believes himself to be a law expert and wants to play internet investigator/prosecution/jury and judge.
 
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