Genjutsu is highly overrated! Bee could beat itachi anyday!

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the speed and power of V2 would ware itachi down first off. and it is a fact that itachi can not spamm any ms techs like sasuke like you make it seem like. i understand you think he is the best of all time (with minato above him to you, but i think itach can ddefeat minato btw), but him using so many ms techs will destoy him in the long run... he doesnt have the power of darkness to give him power ups like his bro ya know..

He used MS techniques pretty frequently against Sasuke and that was when he was sick. Now he is an IWR that can regenerate, you forget that. Also you didn't say how he would defend against the Totsuka sword. If Bee gets hit with that even a little bit then he gets sealed up forever. And he has Amaterasu on top of that and the Hachibi is a huge target, if he hit with Amaterasu then he could just wait a little while until it burned away.
 

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Well first off it was fun to see Itachi that humble man and he showed why he was so bad ass, but frigging Kishi had to remove him from the storyline.

Genjutsu is deadly in its own way its like what Tobi said doesn't matter how strong or weak a genjutsu is but the way you use it. Ex: Sasuke VS Danzo and how Sasuke had Danzo in a genjutsu with that eye in his arm and Danzo didn't even realize and other genjutsu really didn't work on Danzo like the one when Sasuke made Itachi appear.

As Itachi we do know his intelligence and speed is quite amazing but his stamina isn't that high, in other words last too long in battle.

But this would be pointless I mean Bee and Naruto atm can take both Nagato and Itachi out as they are being controlled behind the scene and also both Itachi and Nagato are letting them know when they are attacking like when Itachi came from behind Bee he let him know. The more suitable question/topic is wtf is up with Kabuto and his plan?



now this is the best response on the thread so far!!!! i agree with if you know how to use it logic.

and i think kabuto plans on capuring naruto and bee to use against tobi.. but i dont see how he can use them properly with them helping bee and naruto like you said. plus if he focuses too much on them 2, then the kages will get left out to die..
 

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haha...well some Genjutsu might be over rated but i dont think Itachi, a master Genjutsu users tech. are over rated.
There is even a quote in the manga that supports the fact that your just DEAD WRONG

According to Zetsu, Tsukuyomi is one of the most powerful genjutsu in existence. It is unique to the Uchiha clan and only those with the Mangekyō ...yada yada yada

you get the picture.
 

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now this is the best response on the thread so far!!!! i agree with if you know how to use it logic.

and i think kabuto plans on capuring naruto and bee to use against tobi.. but i dont see how he can use them properly with them helping bee and naruto like you said. plus if he focuses too much on them 2, then the kages will get left out to die..

Yeah but I think their is a lot more behind this, we know he wants Sasuke for sure but Tobi also needs Sasuke in order to complete himself or whatever. Their is also that one mysterious coffin with some other ideas Kabuto had hidden which he indicate a couple capters back when he showed Tobi the ritual or whatever for Edo.

Kabuto is slick wouldn't be shocked if he was the last villian at the end lol
 

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Yeah but I think their is a lot more behind this, we know he wants Sasuke for sure but Tobi also needs Sasuke in order to complete himself or whatever. Their is also that one mysterious coffin with some other ideas Kabuto had hidden which he indicate a couple capters back when he showed Tobi the ritual or whatever for Edo.

Kabuto is slick wouldn't be shocked if he was the last villian at the end lol

don't forget that he hints that he has another ace(tech) up his sleeve that would pretty much make him invincible.
 

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don't forget that he hints that he has another ace(tech) up his sleeve that would pretty much make him invincible.


lol yeah thats what I meant he indicate a tech that Tobi doesnt know about :)
 

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He used MS techniques pretty frequently against Sasuke and that was when he was sick. Now he is an IWR that can regenerate, you forget that. Also you didn't say how he would defend against the Totsuka sword. If Bee gets hit with that even a little bit then he gets sealed up forever. And he has Amaterasu on top of that and the Hachibi is a huge target, if he hit with Amaterasu then he could just wait a little while until it burned away.

first off you have to be piered by the sword to get sealed not touched or scrathed and thats a fact! as you can see here itachi clearly touched the snake, hell he slached its head off and no one was sealed right ???? and if that isnt enuff, oru says what i say as proof aswell . now im not saying he could seal the 8 tails, but it will be mighty dificult considering he can deattach a tentacle and be in that tentacle with out itachi knowing.. then go v2 to dodge and overwhelm itachi till he gets exausted..

im talking about an alive ittachi not the edo one. because if you want to go off that then in the next couple chapters the main characters will defeat nagato and itachi as plot no jutsu. will that mean bee is stronger then both??? stop looking at it one sided and see from bees point aswell.
 

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first off you have to be piered by the sword to get sealed not touched or scrathed and thats a fact! as you can see here itachi clearly touched the snake, hell he slached its head off and no one was sealed right ???? and if that isnt enuff, oru says what i say as proof aswell . now im not saying he could seal the 8 tails, but it will be mighty dificult considering he can deattach a tentacle and be in that tentacle with out itachi knowing.. then go v2 to dodge and overwhelm itachi till he gets exausted..

im talking about an alive ittachi not the edo one. because if you want to go off that then in the next couple chapters the main characters will defeat nagato and itachi as plot no jutsu. will that mean bee is stronger then both??? stop looking at it one sided and see from bees point aswell.

you kno that tsukiyomi and amaterasu is probably enough
 

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Genjutsu isn't overrated to me. And anyways bee did'nt get cought in tsukuyomi.

Lol yes he did you should really read posts befor posting:flaw:

lol how wrong you are

sasuke use's Ms

Then he puts his hand over his eye like he always does after using a MS jutsu
aka tsukuyomi


He wouldn't use Ms for just a normal genjutsu:flaw:
 

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Overrated? Not really, unless people think it's the strongest weapon ever ,and it can't be countered.Itachi is an elite genjtsu user and he would own most people 1 on 1 e.g. i think he would own the prodigy naruto, who is proven to be weak in genjutsu.

I do however agree that bee could probably take him because of his two helpers(samahada and the 8 taled beast).This chapter also shows how powerful kisame really was when he had the sword.
 

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Overrated? Not really, unless people think it's the strongest weapon ever ,and it can't be countered.Itachi is an elite genjtsu user and he would own most people 1 on 1 e.g. i think he would own the prodigy naruto, who is proven to be weak in genjutsu.

I do however agree that bee could probably take him because of his two helpers(samahada and the 8 taled beast).This chapter also shows how powerful kisame really was when he had the sword.

its sorta the other way around because i think that naruto might be fast enough to avoid genjutsu and itachi would beat bee because he has amaterasu and susano. amaterasu works well on bee becos he is not as fast as A or naruto and can't dodge it, susano would give itachi good defense against bee's attacks and i think tsukiyomi would also work because it only needs one second to make it feel like you had 3 days of hell.
 

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tht wasnt tsukoyomi itachi used it was his regular crow genjutsu. and furthermore ppl are saying samehada broke hm out. no it did not the hachibi did. bee signaled samehada 2 spit out his swords obviosly bee also did some training.
 

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A 1 sec genjutsu would undoubtedly kill KB.
Itachi showing that he could react to both RM Naruto and KB's combo-move without getting scratched also means he has good speed reflexes(as an add-up for his dodge against Kirin) and since that, he can defeat KB.

Blackbird you are wrong. Sasuke escaped from itachis tsukoyomi. It's not impossible.

Itachi let Sasuke broke tsukuyomi
 

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I disagree with you digital monster.

Yes itachi let sasuke win that fight, but the battle was real. Itachi wanted sasuke to awaken his MS. In order to do that, sasuke had to believe that he was fighting for his life.

What point would there be for Itachi to use tsukoyomi on sasuke if he was just going to let him out?

He needed sasuke to overcome the adversity and defeat itachi.

It's the same as when he lit sasuke on fire with Amaterasu.

Itachi knew sasuke could die from it, but he needed sasuke to face it and overcome it to defeat him and awaken his MS.
 

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I agree, Itachi is very powerful, but everyone is acting like he's unbeatable, everyones forgetting that Nagato is the more powerful one out of the two, I think it will be interesting to see Nagato fight without the six paths because the Rinnegan allows him to master any jutsu from any element, apart from kekkei genkai. Everyone also acts like Bee is stupid, when he's actually really clever he outsmarted Sasuke, and Sasuke pretty much outsmarts everyone he comes up against. I doubt Bee will fight Itachi anyway, it will be Naruto vs Itachi, whilst Itachi talks about Sasuke and things like that, doubt Naruto will fight Nagato again. Tailed Beast Bomb is better than Susano'o, Naruto now has the body flicker technique allowing him to dodge Amaterasu. I don't know how he'll combat Tsukoyomi but he'll find a way he always does.

Itachi is actually unbeatable, especially with his sussano'o (zetsu says this in the fight between itachi and sasuke), and no one knows if TTB is better than sussano'o we have to wait and see it in the manga.
 

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FACT! sasuke tsukiomi is used out of his right eye and amertaeratsu is used out of the left (opposite of itachi btw). then he grabs his eye like itachi after using tsukiomi. the MS techs are one per eye, and only used when usein the techs. then when both eyes are open it uses the susanoo (fact!). so before you sound stupid again, reread the manga pls noob!!!!!!!

wtf are you talking about i said itachi used regulare genjutsu not tsukiyomi you dumbf*ck
 

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i agree, thats why i said if its 2+ ppl you arent dead right away against the tsukiomi.

ur ****in stupid tsukiyomi only lasts a second so even if some1 tried to touch u itd be over and youd be on the ground u stipf*ck
 

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You do know that Tsukuyomi only lasts for one second in the real world, not enough time for anyone to break a partner out of it. However it lasts three days in the genjutsu world, so Itachi could torture Bee before the Hachibi managed to break out of it. And what happened to Kakashi would happen to anyone who got caught in Tsukuyomi, they would be hospitalized or in a coma or too weak to fight and Itachi would kill them.

Also Itachi is a genjutsu master, he has genjutsu that doesn't revolve around his sharingan. But even so, since Tsukuyomi only lasts one second in the real world no one would be able to break out of it because their partner or whoever would snap them out of it wouldn't have time to react, if you even can break out of Tsukuyomi, there is no proof that anyone can and Itachi said that only an immediate family member of his could break out of it.

That is why Itachi is one of the best, one vs. one he is almost unbeatable since all he has to do is look at them, one second is all he needs.

DUDE wake up itachi is one hell of a great genjutsu user .but in a battle against a jinc who can control his bijuu is completely useless they can easily dispel any type of genjutsu in a matter of secs and they equally possess great speed and active reflexes to evade amaterasu.
 
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