Genjutsu don't work on perfect jin right?

[King of the Heavens]

Do you know what Chakra mode is? It is like this. You got one big pool of water(Naruto's chakra) and you got 9 pipes(9 tailed beasts) connected to it. When you're in Chakra mode, those 9 pipes are open the whole time. the 9 pipes are pouring water(chakra) into it.

Got it?

Now Genjutsu from Sasuke who got the highest quality chakra that was able to placed all the tailed beasts in a genjutsu at the same time with no problem.

So if Sasuke hit chakra mode naruto with Genjutsu. That Genjutsu chakra will infect "chakra mode" naruto's chakra pool that is connected and running with all the 9 tailed beasts. That is like dumping a shit load of trash(genjutsu chakra) into the pool which will infect the water(chakra).

How do you clean it? Chakra mode Naruto's chakra gotta be GREATLY stronger than Sasuke Genjutsu's chakra(The same genjutsu chakra that placed all the tailed beasts under a genjutsu at the same time) to destroy the trash(Sasuke's genjutsu chakra) in the pool.

If it was a weak trash(Genjutsu chakra), then the naruto chakra pool will drown that weak trash(genjutsu chakra)

So far we have no proof that chakra mode Naruto's chakra is far greater than Sasuke's chakra.

So how would Naruto break out of it? I know! Open up a new pipe to his chakra pool! nature energy pipe. By doing that, it will weaken the trash(genjutsu chakra) enough for naruto to overpower it. This was only possible because a new source of chakra appear to press down on the genjutsu chakra.

Got it?

going by what you said you don't know that sasuke Chakra is greater then Naruto. how'd you like them chickens

 

[King of the Heavens]

You're going against the manga. Hashi suppressed all the tailed beasts at one point. Madara and obito controlled Kurama at one point. We both now that obito's chakra is a far cry compare to Madara.

It is like you refuse to admit that even a perfect jin have a weakness.

That was a tailed beast on its own not a jinchuriki its completely different.

 

[Nagi]

First he was able to put them into genjutsu just be cause they are pure livin chakra. They just have powerful chakra but not complicate like Naruto.
Second Naruto is at sage level, his chakra is powerful. They both get 50/50 from the sage so i dont know where did you get that info from that Sasuke able to overpowered Naruto chakra to flow his way, not to mention there are more source of chakra to dump that shjt...
You dont just make thing up, it has to be back up by manga fact.

1. No. They have a mind and control. We done seen Kurama throughout the war gather his chakra for Naruto. Even Gather NE for Naruto. Kurama was practically a freaking Ninja throughout the war.
2. You forgetting the fact, that Sasuke gotten chakra too. We both Know that naruto is stronger than Itachi, so he should've been able to break out of one of those genjutsu that itachi placed him in before.
3. What make chakra mode Naurto more complicate than the tailed beasts that Sasuke soloed within second? Unless you got proof that chakra mode is more than one source of chakras that are not being mixed together, I don't see naruto being more complicate than a tailed beast. Mangafacts show that Chakra mode is the mixture of Naruto and Kurama chakra. So therefore chakra mode is one source of chakra that is made of two sources of chakra. The only difference between Chakra mode Naruto and a tailed beast by itself is that naruto got more skills to control the chakra.


The sad part here, You're thinking that I'm saying that Naruto can't break out of a genjutsu. When really I'm I saying he can but it is not as easy as you and the other fans are making it out to be. Y'all talking about he can't be placed under a genjutsu or he will break out of it within a second.

Just accept the fact that Chakra mode naruto can be placed under a genjutsu from Sasuke long enough to get cut in half.

Nobody is saying that Naruto can be taken out with a Genjutsu just like Itachi been doing to him. i'm just proving that a genjutsu from Sasuke can slow Naruto down for a few seconds.

 

[King of the Heavens]

1. No. They have a mind and control. We done seen Kurama throughout the war gather his chakra for Naruto. Even Gather NE for Naruto. Kurama was practically a freaking Ninja throughout the war.
2. You forgetting the fact, that Sasuke gotten chakra too. We both Know that naruto is stronger than Itachi, so he should've been able to break out of one of those genjutsu that itachi placed him in before.
3. What make chakra mode Naurto more complicate than the tailed beasts that Sasuke soloed within second? Unless you got proof that chakra mode is more than one source of chakras that are not being mixed together, I don't see naruto being more complicate than a tailed beast. Mangafacts show that Chakra mode is the mixture of Naruto and Kurama chakra. So therefore chakra mode is one source of chakra that is made of two sources of chakra. The only difference between Chakra mode Naruto and a tailed beast by itself is that naruto got more skills to control the chakra.


The sad part here, You're thinking that I'm saying that Naruto can't break out of a genjutsu. When really I'm I saying he can but it is not as easy as you and the other fans are making it out to be. Y'all talking about he can't be placed under a genjutsu or he will break out of it within a second.

Just accept the fact that Chakra mode naruto can be placed under a genjutsu from Sasuke long enough to get cut in half.

Nobody is saying that Naruto can be taken out with a Genjutsu just like Itachi been doing to him. i'm just proving that a genjutsu from Sasuke can slow Naruto down for a few seconds.

And your going by the assumption that Naruto has to look sasuke directly in the eyes to fight him, have you forgotten that Naruto is a sage he can sense sasuke without looking at him just like he sensed Madara's Limbo clones with being able to see them

 

[Nagi]

going by what you said you don't know that sasuke Chakra is greater then Naruto. how'd you like them chickens

But i do know that Sasuke's chakra is greater than or equal to Naruto. Once you realize what Genjutsu chakra is and you read the whole VoTE2 again, you will see why It is very possible that Sasuke can put chakra mode Naruto in a genjutsu for a few seconds.

If you say I don't have no mangafacts, then you show me mangafacts of Naruto having the ability to break out of genjutsu within ONE second or can't be affected by genjutsu at all.

 

[Nagi]

And your going by the assumption that Naruto has to look sasuke directly in the eyes to fight him, have you forgotten that Naruto is a sage he can sense sasuke without looking at him just like he sensed Madara's Limbo clones with being able to see them

Not once you seen naruto NOT LOOK at Obito, Madara, or Sasuke directly into the eyes. Remember this. Naruto have no intention to kill. So therefore you can't say this or that or whatever to protect Naruto. If I remember correctly, naruto was staring dead straight at Sasuke in eyes to know that his power was weaken.

 

[King of the Heavens]

But i do know that Sasuke's chakra is greater than or equal to Naruto. Once you realize what Genjutsu chakra is and you read the whole VoTE2 again, you will see why It is very possible that Sasuke can put chakra mode Naruto in a genjutsu for a few seconds.

If you say I don't have no mangafacts, then you show me mangafacts of Naruto having the ability to break out of genjutsu within ONE second or can't be affected by genjutsu at all.

You can only say that if sasuke has already done it don't be making up your own story fam, i know he didn't get shine or release his wings but he did beat shin in the gaiden so its all good and i've already read VOTE2 there was no genjutsu placed on Naruto or the kurama half in him so don't but if im mistaken then tell me the chapter again and i swear to i will proof kishi's work for you and make it so sasuke's chakra is greater then Naruto.

 

[Nagi]

That was a tailed beast on its own not a jinchuriki its completely different.

Kurama was able to mold his chakra for Naruto on his own. Chakra mode Kurama was able to to gather NE for Naruto. By this logic, that Yang Kurama that Sasuke caught should've been able to snap out of the genjutsu on his own due dealing with genjutsu before.

On top of this, we both saw how Sasuke was able to enter Naruto's mind to stop Kurama. This clearly show that Sasuke should've been able to shut naruto and Kurama down with a genjutsu at the same time. We both know that naruto's chakra is not strong enough on its own to break out a genjutsu from sasuke.

So claim that a perfect Jin can't be affected from Genjutsu at all is just fanfic and stupid.

You can only say that if sasuke has already done it don't be making up your own story fam, i know he didn't get shine or release his wings but he did beat shin in the gaiden so its all good and i've already read VOTE2 there was no genjutsu placed on Naruto or the kurama half in him so don't but if im mistaken then tell me the chapter again and i swear to i will proof kishi's work for you and make it so sasuke's chakra is greater then Naruto.

Show me a scan where it said a perfect jin can't be affected from a genjutsu at all.

 

[King of the Heavens]

Not once you seen naruto NOT LOOK at Obito, Madara, or Sasuke directly into the eyes. Remember this. Naruto have no intention to kill. So therefore you can't say this or that or whatever to protect Naruto. If I remember correctly, naruto was staring dead straight at Sasuke in eyes to know that his power was weaken.

where was the genjutsu then if he "was staring dead straight at Sasuke in eyes" huh

 

[King of the Heavens]

Kurama was able to mold his chakra for Naruto on his own. Chakra mode Kurama was able to to gather NE for Naruto. By this logic, that Yang Kurama that Sasuke caught should've been able to snap out of the genjutsu on his own due dealing with genjutsu before.

On top of this, we both saw how Sasuke was able to enter Naruto's mind to stop Kurama. This clearly show that Sasuke should've been able to shut naruto and Kurama down with a genjutsu at the same time. We both know that naruto's chakra is not strong enough on its own to break out a genjutsu from sasuke.

So claim that a perfect Jin can't be affected from Genjutsu at all is just fanfic and stupid.



Show me a scan where it said a perfect jin can't be affected from a genjutsu at all.

B would beg to differ he broke out of it easy

 

[Nagi]

where was the genjutsu then if he "was staring dead straight at Sasuke in eyes" huh

Thank you! For proving that Sasuke was nerfed.

The more you say Naruto was nerfed, the more you prove that Kishi/plot was on Naruto's side.

 

[Nagi]

B would beg to differ he broke out of it easy

if you read the whole thread you will see why I said Killer B and 8 tailed breaking out of genjutsu easy make more senses than a perfect jin. Their chakra wasn't mixed at all like chakra mode.

 

[King of the Heavens]

Thank you! For proving that Sasuke was nerfed.

The more you say Naruto was nerfed, the more you prove that Kishi/plot was on Naruto's side.

That just proofs that sasuke has learn't from his past mistake of thinking that he can put a perfet jinchuriki in a genjutsu and thats why he didn't use it on naruto

 

[Nagi]

This thread is done. Y'all refuse to admit that a perfect Jin can be placed under a genjutsu for a few seconds.

 

[King of the Heavens]

This thread is done. Y'all refuse to admit that a perfect Jin can be placed under a genjutsu for a few seconds.

oh you meant for a few seconds

 

[Nagi]

oh you meant for a few seconds

Yeah. Of course Naruto can break out of a genjutsu as a perfect jin. But getting hit with one gonna affect him for a few seconds at least. That is all the point I'm trying to make.

 

[Aznkidd]

1. No. They have a mind and control. We done seen Kurama throughout the war gather his chakra for Naruto. Even Gather NE for Naruto. Kurama was practically a freaking Ninja throughout the war.
2. You forgetting the fact, that Sasuke gotten chakra too. We both Know that naruto is stronger than Itachi, so he should've been able to break out of one of those genjutsu that itachi placed him in before.
3. What make chakra mode Naurto more complicate than the tailed beasts that Sasuke soloed within second? Unless you got proof that chakra mode is more than one source of chakras that are not being mixed together, I don't see naruto being more complicate than a tailed beast. Mangafacts show that Chakra mode is the mixture of Naruto and Kurama chakra. So therefore chakra mode is one source of chakra that is made of two sources of chakra. The only difference between Chakra mode Naruto and a tailed beast by itself is that naruto got more skills to control the chakra.


The sad part here, You're thinking that I'm saying that Naruto can't break out of a genjutsu. When really I'm I saying he can but it is not as easy as you and the other fans are making it out to be. Y'all talking about he can't be placed under a genjutsu or he will break out of it within a second.

Just accept the fact that Chakra mode naruto can be placed under a genjutsu from Sasuke long enough to get cut in half.

Nobody is saying that Naruto can be taken out with a Genjutsu just like Itachi been doing to him. i'm just proving that a genjutsu from Sasuke can slow Naruto down for a few seconds.

He cant even insert genjutsu chakra into Naruto in the first place.
Second Itachi was stronger than Naruto at the time + Naruto wasnt good at chakra control yet.
Third, the chakra is not started as a mixed chakra, but it get pump in to mix with Naruto chakra, you are just refering to the non moving pool when it is not.
Fourth, Naruto has been showing that he can collect Nature chakra in bijuu mode.
Fifth, sage chakra is not a joke...

 

[King of the Heavens]

Yeah. Of course Naruto can break out of a genjutsu as a perfect jin. But getting hit with one gonna affect him for a few seconds at least. That is all the point I'm trying to make.

still wouldn't have have worked. Thumbs ups for trying though, and good day to you sir =D

 

[Nagi]

He cant even insert genjutsu chakra into Naruto in the first place.
Second Itachi was stronger than Naruto at the time + Naruto wasnt good at chakra control yet.
Third, the chakra is not started as a mixed chakra, but it get pump in to mix with Naruto chakra, you are just refering to the non moving pool when it is not.
Fourth, Naruto has been showing that he can collect Nature chakra in bijuu mode.
Fifth, sage chakra is not a joke...

1. where you get that idea?
2. naruto created rasen shuriken before meeting Itachi the 2nd time in part 2 and didn't even look him in the eyes. Guess what happen, dude was already under a genjutsu effect.
3. I did said moving pool by having all the 9 pipes connecting and pouring chakra into the pool the whole time in chakra mode.
4. I did told you that by collecting NE would be the best way to break out of a genjutsu.
5. sage chakra is not a joke right? Why you acting like it is a joke to Sasuke when he got it too ?

 

[ninjarasengan]

What about Sasuke genjutsu both of them(Jinchuriki and Bijuu) simultaneously. GG

Remember there is a deeper level of consciousness were a Jinchuuriki can meet their Bijuu that even doujutsu can't reach?