Counter argument: that very same chapter doffy had strings pierce luffys base form armament haki.Counterargument: Doflamingo was too weak to make strings capable of even cutting a human.
Counter argument: that very same chapter doffy had strings pierce luffys base form armament haki.Counterargument: Doflamingo was too weak to make strings capable of even cutting a human.
Because his base form isn't as elastic.Counter argument: that very same chapter doffy had strings pierce luffys base form armament haki.
Says you. Manga attributes the game-changer of Gear 4th being its elasticity, not boosting the strength of Haki, so that's what I'ma go with.
I never said Luffy's Haki was superior to Doffy's or vice versa. I think they're equal, and also inferior to Law's because while Law can focus on training his Busoshoku, Luffy specializes and focuses on his Haoshoku, and Doffy's Haki was portrayed evenly with Luffy's. Even when Doflamingo broke through Luffy's attacks and struck Luffy, Luffy's Haki remained up. Luffy and Doffy's Haki are evenly matched, so Doffy couldn't bypass Luffy's elasticity.
So if G4 luffy had no haki and doffy wasnt using haki then doffys strings couldnt cut luffy? I dont think so...Because his base form isn't as elastic.
Nope, I doubt it'd cut himSo if G4 luffy had no haki and doffy wasnt using haki then doffys strings couldnt cut luffy? I dont think so...
Yup. They might hurt him more but the force of his attack would push those strings back regardless, haki is there for extra protection it is not the reason why those strings got pushed back at all. I showed you a scan of pre haki Luffy pushing a sharp attack back so its already been done before without Haki.So if G4 luffy had no haki and doffy wasnt using haki then doffys strings couldnt cut luffy? I dont think so...
Pushing sand isnt the same as pushing a string coated in haki that is pointed to a tip and is basically a spear. That sand loses any sense of sharpness as soon as its structure begins to change and if the user manipulating that sand doesn't have the strength to maintain that form then the sand cant even maintain form long enough to withstand the force required to cut something. The strings showed that they had the required force earlier in the chapter.Yup. They might hurt him more but the force of his attack would push those strings back regardless, haki is there for extra protection it is not the reason why those strings got pushed back at all. I showed you a scan of pre haki Luffy pushing a sharp attack back so its already been done before without Haki.
The strings possibly pierced him a bit...thats not the point. The force of his attack simply pushed them back...don't know whats so hard to understand. Its been shown before it is nothing new...haki was hardly a factor in that last clash, its just an extra little detail on the side..two powerful attacks met the weaker one simply got overpowered. Lets not make this more complicated than it actually is. Luffy's punch levelled an entire city (and that wasnt even the full force) I'm pretty sure bending strings/threads isn't the biggest issue lol. Just like with the Croc example...he punched through bedrock who cares if the attack was sharp or not look how much force was behind the punches.Pushing sand isnt the same as pushing a string coated in haki that is pointed to a tip and is basically a spear. That sand loses any sense of sharpness as soon as its structure begins to change and if the user manipulating that sand doesn't have the strength to maintain that form then the sand cant even maintain form long enough to withstand the force required to cut something. The strings showed that they had the required force earlier in the chapter.
Also haki is luffys only form of protection against sharp objects. He has said before this sketchiness doesnt help against swords or spears. I dont see how increasing elasticity changes that at all.
Even if you think that luffy can punch through spears without haki (which is ridiculous) then explain why the strings couldn't pierce his arm even when they were hitting the side of his arm. Is he punching though them or is it his increased elasticity. Be consistent here, you guys are changing your argument every time you are faced with contradicting info.
But as I have tried to point out multiple times, luffy fist wasn't hitting all of those strings, some hit his arm and no they didnt pierce it look at the next page.The strings possibly pierced him a bit...thats not the point. The force of his attack simply pushed them back...don't know whats so hard to understand. Its been shown before it is nothing new...haki was hardly a factor in that last clash, its just an extra little detail on the side..two powerful attacks met the weaker one simply got overpowered. Lets not make this more complicated than it actually is. Luffy's punch levelled an entire city (and that wasnt even the full force) I'm pretty sure bending strings/threads isn't the biggest issue lol. Just like with the Croc example...he punched through bedrock who cares if the attack was sharp or not look how much force was behind the punches.
How can you even tell if they slightly pierced him or not? I can't see shit in that panel.But as I have tried to point out multiple times, luffy fist wasn't hitting all of those strings, some hit his arm and no they didnt pierce it look at the next page.
I meant this one I got the order mixed up.How can you even tell if they slightly pierced him or not? I can't see shit in that panel.
He's able to punch through them because of the sheer force he's producing being better than their force. If they were just being thrown into him, his body would probably just deform and repel them.Pushing sand isnt the same as pushing a string coated in haki that is pointed to a tip and is basically a spear. That sand loses any sense of sharpness as soon as its structure begins to change and if the user manipulating that sand doesn't have the strength to maintain that form then the sand cant even maintain form long enough to withstand the force required to cut something. The strings showed that they had the required force earlier in the chapter.
Also haki is luffys only form of protection against sharp objects. He has said before this sketchiness doesnt help against swords or spears. I dont see how increasing elasticity changes that at all.
Even if you think that luffy can punch through spears without haki (which is ridiculous) then explain why the strings couldn't pierce his arm even when they were hitting the side of his arm. Is he punching though them or is it his increased elasticity. Be consistent here, you guys are changing your argument every time you are faced with contradicting info.