[VS] Gai - Minato Vs. Killer Bee - Ay

[Narutimate Storm]

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hiraishin dorai not require hand seal:

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[Draegod]

1. Speed doesn't change. Only the size of what is warped.

2. Base Minato. So no. Feat is perfectly viable as long as I don't claim he can warp something of that size away.


No they didn't. They pinned the Jins after B blew them away and knocked them down with Hachimaki. Not to mention it'd make no logical sense for B's weak ink clones to easily defeat the Jins when B and Naruto were having issues with Shared Vision and Sharingan precognition. He can make 1000 of them, but will that do? They are even weaker than the original B, who stands no chance against Hiraishin (even a clone's), or 7G Gai's attacks.



Which won't be hard since he has Gai as back up, and clones to spread his marking. And it only has to be as far away as the width of a Bijuu Dama's explosion, which isn't a significant distance when you are a teleporter w/ clones.



B isn't sealed. His Bijuu is. Minato can attempt to seal B. Databook says it can be used to seal an evil spirit or a giant enemy. Bijuu=Giant enemy.

- Again It was literally a off panel feat from a Minato with Kurama chakra, unless you show the entire process from start to finish let alone how he manage; it is a Edo feat from Kurama Minato only! Just because he was base after the TBB was gone doesnt mean you know how much chakra it took, if he transformed etc etc. then its the fact alive minato had to wait just to tele Kurama.
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he was clearly aware and ready, yet to no avail did he stop the clone. Naruto and Bee wasn't really bested by them, they were out numbered but owned them when seprate at times. 1000 can literally get the kunais etc etc, cause problems and predict where he would tele. 1000 Clones make a differnce. Plus we do not even know how durable Base clones are, we only have minato's Kurama clones. If they are like the 99% other shadow clones they are not much better then Bee's ink clones.
- Clones are countered by clones, Gai could help. But even then Whirlwind spin scatters them or pulls Gai and minato closer at the same time Ending all minato's shadow clones. Plus we have Aye to keep Gai busy with that "Strategy" of getting the kunais as far as possible. It would have to be Mountain range far seeing as the TBB is mountain ranged explosion.
- Again how can you seal something that is already sealed? In minato's case, he would have to override the previous seal then attempt to seal. Otherwise All the major countries wouldn't have to Wait for the previous host to die to attempt to seal the bijuu again. They would literally never see the bijuu and would had simply Transfer seal or in your case Seal an already sealed Bijuu into another seal on another human. If minato could undo the previous seal or unseal 8 tails then yes, otherwise it is a baseless claim.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Do you know what performed means? Performing the summon obviously means that the user has to perform the summon above, the creature appearing doesn't count as "perform" So please.

Lol the fact that you focused in on the word struggling, don't give a shit about his pineapple looking head, the jutsu almost hit him before he did shit, now put the range as 20x closer and you've got someone who's going to struggle majorly to block such a thing.

Again B whirlwind is what causes them the most trouble anyways.

It's like you're deliberately being retarded Lol. It says "THE SUMMON" can be performed instantly above the target. Key words = THE SUMMON. It does not say "The user performs the summon above the target. NO!! Those are two different things. No where has it ever said or shown the user to be above the target in order to use the jutsu. Anyone can do that with any summon, there's nothing unique or different about that. Danzo can get above his target and summon Baku, so by your logic everyone with summoning jutsu can use the B rank jutsu Lol.

Why are you avoiding my questions, I've been waiting since. Show me the scan where the user is above the target. And you still haven't explained to me why the jutsu is considerend all ranges, when by your logic it can only be performed close range. Still waiting for you to tell me how the user gets "SEVERAL HUNDRED METERS" above the target.

Minato applied almost zero effort to that tbb, I really don't know what your looking at. Sad part is that the idot above me just showed that the technique doesn't even require hand signs. All he has to do is stick out his kunai. You didn't even respond to my statement on Minato warping the juubi Bomb to the ocean. Tell me, what's faster, v2 Ay from 10m infront of Minato or a tbb from Bee from several meters away, for your sake I hope you pick the rot answer. Minato moved his hand so fast that he threw a kunai up over Ay's body while he moved at top speed. But you're saying he can't stick out his hands for tbb XD. Not to mention the Kunai's behind bee that Minato would have set up that he can easily teleport to.

Tbb are not a threat at all, stop trying to convince yourself they are.

Whirlwind Lol, FCD stops him before he can even do that or Space time barrier creates a shield in front Minato, so all force heading Minatos directions passes through it, all the debris and rocks and destruction also passes through it.

 

[KidGamer65]

- Again It was literally a off panel feat from a Minato with Kurama chakra, unless you show the entire process from start to finish let alone how he manage; it is a Edo feat from Kurama Minato only! Just because he was base after the TBB was gone doesnt mean you know how much chakra it took, if he transformed etc etc. then its the fact alive minato had to wait just to tele Kurama.

There is literally zero evidence he transformed. He warped it in Base, arrived, and then released it, while still in Base. Not to mention it makes no logical sense for Minato to transform once, and then go out of it right after landing (hadn't even released the Bijuu Dama yet) when he's entering a battle against the Juubi. When he would just activate again for a second time a few minutes later. Lol.

Minato teleported him via regular Hiraishin. When he was Edo he used the barrier. Not to mention that relates to the objects size, which isn't relevant as B's Bijuu Dama isn't even as large as the one he warped when he was alive. Lol

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he was clearly aware and ready, yet to no avail did he stop the clone. Naruto and Bee wasn't really bested by them, they were out numbered but owned them when seprate at times. 1000 can literally get the kunais etc etc, cause problems and predict where he would tele. 1000 Clones make a differnce. Plus we do not even know how durable Base clones are, we only have minato's Kurama clones. If they are like the 99% other shadow clones they are not much better then Bee's ink clones.

They had just gotten up from being hit by the whirlwind. Like I said. If you want to assert that B's clones can solo the Jins like that, then you'd be asserting that Ink Clones>Original B and KCM Naruto when those two couldn't even do that to the Jins with that low a difficulty. And it wasn't just offense that proves your comparison wrong.

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Fu evades B's Samehada toss+Raiton Blade sneak attack comfortably, yet she can't evade or react to B's ink clone? Are you implying that B could have just started with Ink Clones instead of putting them and the forest down with Hachimaki? Cause if B's ink clones are strong enough to run up to and grab the Jins with no reaction or resist, that'd be the case.

Assuming B can make 1000 ink clones, what will they do when they get the Kunai? They'd literally get blitzed by a succession of clone Minato attacks via Hiraishin. The original B isn't fast enough to react to Hiraishin attacks let alone his far weaker clones. Shadow Clones split chakra in half. Who knows what Ink Clones do, but given Sai's usage, they aren't anywhere near as strong as the original. And that was only 1, let alone 1000. B picking up Kunai's with his clones is asking for his clones to be murdered. When they can react we can talk about this strategy being effective. Not to mention predicting where he'll teleport is a weak strategy.

1. Even if he knows where he'll teleport, the clones are too weak to ever hit him or do anything significant.
2. Knowing where he'll teleport won't let them react to defend against Minato's attacks.

And no, Minato's Shadow Clones are probably as durable as the regular ones, but shadow clones split half of the user's chakra. B's don't as far as we can tell. Minato's clones can use Hiraishin, and they are just as fast as he is as long as he doesn't split his chakra too thin. So Minato's clones would dominate B's clones.

- Clones are countered by clones, Gai could help. But even then Whirlwind spin scatters them or pulls Gai and minato closer at the same time Ending all minato's shadow clones. Plus we have Aye to keep Gai busy with that "Strategy" of getting the kunais as far as possible. It would have to be Mountain range far seeing as the TBB is mountain ranged explosion.

Hachimaki would wreck every clone, including B's while Gai and Minato take little to no damage. Not to mention it repels, it's not going to pull Gai and Minato closer to B. I don't think that I said that Gai will help spread the Kunai, but even if he does, Ay can't do anything to keep him busy. If Ay engages Gai, he gets done like Madara did except this time Gai's opposition dies to Hirudora, and that'd be Ay. He's nowhere near as strong as he needs to be to keep Gai busy if Gai really decided to take him apart.

Considering Minato set Kunai around the Juubi before he got to the battlefield, that shouldn't be too hard.

- Again how can you seal something that is already sealed? In minato's case, he would have to override the previous seal then attempt to seal. Otherwise All the major countries wouldn't have to Wait for the previous host to die to attempt to seal the bijuu again. They would literally never see the bijuu and would had simply Transfer seal or in your case Seal an already sealed Bijuu into another seal on another human. If minato could undo the previous seal or unseal 8 tails then yes, otherwise it is a baseless claim.

Like I told you, sealing B himself isn't the same as sealing Gyuki away. No one ever said he'd seal Gyuki away. The Major countries don't want to seal humans to humans, they want to seal Bijuu into humans so those humans can either contain or harness that Bijuu's strength. Sealing B is sealing B. The only reason Gyuki is technically sealed is because he is inside B, who was the target of the Fuuinjutsu.

Minato would need to undo the previous seal on Gyuki if he wanted to extract him and then seal him elsewhere, but not if he wants to seal away the Jinchuuriki himself.

 

[Draegod]

There is literally zero evidence he transformed. He warped it in Base, arrived, and then released it, while still in Base. Not to mention it makes no logical sense for Minato to transform once, and then go out of it right after landing (hadn't even released the Bijuu Dama yet) when he's entering a battle against the Juubi. When he would just activate again for a second time a few minutes later. Lol.

Minato teleported him via regular Hiraishin. When he was Edo he used the barrier. Not to mention that relates to the objects size, which isn't relevant as B's Bijuu Dama isn't even as large as the one he warped when he was alive. Lol



They had just gotten up from being hit by the whirlwind. Like I said. If you want to assert that B's clones can solo the Jins like that, then you'd be asserting that Ink Clones>Original B and KCM Naruto when those two couldn't even do that to the Jins with that low a difficulty. And it wasn't just offense that proves your comparison wrong.

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Fu evades B's Samehada toss+Raiton Blade sneak attack comfortably, yet she can't evade or react to B's ink clone? Are you implying that B could have just started with Ink Clones instead of putting them and the forest down with Hachimaki? Cause if B's ink clones are strong enough to run up to and grab the Jins with no reaction or resist, that'd be the case.

Assuming B can make 1000 ink clones, what will they do when they get the Kunai? They'd literally get blitzed by a succession of clone Minato attacks via Hiraishin. The original B isn't fast enough to react to Hiraishin attacks let alone his far weaker clones. Shadow Clones split chakra in half. Who knows what Ink Clones do, but given Sai's usage, they aren't anywhere near as strong as the original. And that was only 1, let alone 1000. B picking up Kunai's with his clones is asking for his clones to be murdered. When they can react we can talk about this strategy being effective. Not to mention predicting where he'll teleport is a weak strategy.

1. Even if he knows where he'll teleport, the clones are too weak to ever hit him or do anything significant.
2. Knowing where he'll teleport won't let them react to defend against Minato's attacks.

And no, Minato's Shadow Clones are probably as durable as the regular ones, but shadow clones split half of the user's chakra. B's don't as far as we can tell. Minato's clones can use Hiraishin, and they are just as fast as he is as long as he doesn't split his chakra too thin. So Minato's clones would dominate B's clones.





Hachimaki would wreck every clone, including B's while Gai and Minato take little to no damage. Not to mention it repels, it's not going to pull Gai and Minato closer to B. I don't think that I said that Gai will help spread the Kunai, but even if he does, Ay can't do anything to keep him busy. If Ay engages Gai, he gets done like Madara did except this time Gai's opposition dies to Hirudora, and that'd be Ay. He's nowhere near as strong as he needs to be to keep Gai busy if Gai really decided to take him apart.

Considering Minato set Kunai around the Juubi before he got to the battlefield, that shouldn't be too hard.



Like I told you, sealing B himself isn't the same as sealing Gyuki away. No one ever said he'd seal Gyuki away. The Major countries don't want to seal humans to humans, they want to seal Bijuu into humans so those humans can either contain or harness that Bijuu's strength. Sealing B is sealing B. The only reason Gyuki is technically sealed is because he is inside B, who was the target of the Fuuinjutsu.

Minato would need to undo the previous seal on Gyuki if he wanted to extract him and then seal him elsewhere, but not if he wants to seal away the Jinchuuriki himself.

- And there is zero evidence to say he didn't use or need the Kyubi chakra. Fact is you don't know the sequence, he we still till this day dont know how he placed 4 kunais with no one even knowing. My point is, you are literaly making baseless claims and trying to pass them off as facts. Alive minato had to

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And Kurama is no where near the size of the TBB the juubi shot. Which leads to believe that to be an EDO ONLY FEAT until alive minato duplicates something even close. And ofc you would have to show he used Barrier in Edo form, the only thing showed in the manga was the TBB being sent to the ocean, that is it! Every thing else is Fanmade assumptions that are not fact like most of you try to pass off.

- I never stated they were better then Base bee. Never said the were better the the jins. Never said they could kill the Jins. I stated based on manga fact they bested the Vision of the Jins to bind them. Everything else you stated just showed you not reading my OP. 1000 Ink clones will be useful and Minato will not be able to get rid of them all at once. Databook says he can easily make 1000, not debatable. And please do not compare Sai's clones with bee's, literally two different techs that do not compare. Ink clones turn into a liquid sealing Jutsu, so stabbing them with Kunais wouldn't be wise when they would then grab and attempt to seal (if they can catch them ofc).

- Again, show me exactly what happened when Minato came to the battle field. Ill wait... Until you show me his exact scene and how he place kunais with out the alliance knowing and 3 of the strongest ninja ever not knowing (kages), then it is an Edo Minato feat only. My point to you is that We don't know if he jumped extremely high in the air then threw them or Ran super fast and placed them or Threw them at a god speed etc etc. Fans (you) only assume they know what happen based off nothing when the possibilities are up in the air to be concrete.

And who says Aye would instantly get demolished by Guy? When he has feats of dodging Ama, i'm sure he could hold his own long enough.

- Instead of going back and forth with you making stuff up that isn't supported by the manga. I'll simply say Minato seals a Tentacle bunshin just like madara did twice! Simple and ends that notion of that jutsu ever being a factor (when it is baseless).

 

[KidGamer65]

- And there is zero evidence to say he didn't use or need the Kyubi chakra.

The fact we see him in Base after he sucks the BD in and before he releases it is evidence he was in Base. The fact that it makes no logical sense for him to go into KCM, and then leave it, only to go back into it is evidence that what you are saying makes absolutely no sense. Please stop grasping at straws. The panels give no implication that he used Kurama Mode for that. You claimed he did, so I suggest we get some actual proof and not these nonsense assumptions.

Fact is you don't know the sequence, he we still till this day dont know how he placed 4 kunais with no one even knowing. My point is, you are literaly making baseless claims and trying to pass them off as facts. Alive minato had to

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And Kurama is no where near the size of the TBB the juubi shot. Which leads to believe that to be an EDO ONLY FEAT until alive minato duplicates something even close. And ofc you would have to show he used Barrier in Edo form, the only thing showed in the manga was the TBB being sent to the ocean, that is it! Every thing else is Fanmade assumptions that are not fact like most of you try to pass off.

Lol, this clown.

1. He ran, he teleported. Those are the only ways he could've set up those Kunai.

2. Please learn what a baseless claim is. No evidence of him using KCM, and then leaving it right when he appears on the battlefield. (Which is a retarded claim in itself) And the fact that it makes no sense for him to enter it, exit it, and then enter it again along with the fact he was only shown in Base is enough evidence for anyone who isn't actively trying to twist and turn the Manga any opportunity they get to realize KCM was not used. Then there's the fact that Kurama can sense when Minato uses KCM, or when he's about to use it.

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Yet he only realized Minato had KCM until he used it on panel, thus that was when he first used KCM in that battle. Not to warp the Bijuu Dama, and then exit the mode for god knows what reason. Lol.

3. Alive Minato was teleporting Kurama through the normal method. Edo Minato used the barrier. So please stop mentioning this. Not to mention ET has chakra that never runs out. Minato can use up all his chakra and still regenerate it, which could also factor into why he needed to knead chakra to warp Kurama, but warped the Juubidama instantly. Either way, it doesn't change my point since B's Bijuu Dama are nowhere near the size of the Juubi's, nor does this have shit to do with the speed he warped it. It only has to do with the size of the object he warps. That's why he needs to knead chakra.

4. If you are going to come at me with this BS you might as well not bother replying. Lol. Minato only has one jutsu that lets him warp things without actually touching them. Minato only has one jutsu that lets him warp things without physically touching them, so he can redirect them to another marking. That is the barrier. Unless you want to assert that Minato can teleport objects without having any contact with them whatsoever...lol. That only ends up helping my point more than it does hurt it.

I already said that Alive Minato can't warp something of that size. Not sure why you are trying to use that as evidence B's attack will get through the barrier when B's attack is garbage in comparison. Power and Size.

- I never stated they were better then Base bee. Never said the were better the the jins. Never said they could kill the Jins. I stated based on manga fact they bested the Vision of the Jins to bind them. Everything else you stated just showed you not reading my OP. 1000 Ink clones will be useful and Minato will not be able to get rid of them all at once. Databook says he can easily make 1000, not debatable. And please do not compare Sai's clones with bee's, literally two different techs that do not compare. Ink clones turn into a liquid sealing Jutsu, so stabbing them with Kunais wouldn't be wise when they would then grab and attempt to seal (if they can catch them ofc).

And to do that they'd have to be better than the original, who already failed to best one of them when it came to their vision. Not hard to understand. You showed the Jins who had just been hit with Hachimaki getting caught by B's ink clones. I've already shown you the Jin's performance in neutral conditions, and B was unable to tag Fuu. Plain and simple.

Never said he'll be able to get rid of them all at once. He'll be able to get rid of them. That's the point.

Sai's Jutsu is the same Ink Clone Jutsu. The only difference is B uses Hachibi's ink, Sai uses pen ink. B's are only different because B himself has different abilities, and he has an ability he made with ink clones. Doesn't change the fact that an ink clone is an ink clone, and an ink clone is fodder to a shadow clone.

And yes, they can turn into a liquid sealing jutsu, but considering B's clones are never going to grab the Shadow Clones like they did to the Jins even if Minato cuts them, his sealing jutsu isn't even a factor. Cutting instead of stabbing only makes it easier for him to escape.

- Again, show me exactly what happened when Minato came to the battle field. Ill wait... Until you show me his exact scene and how he place kunais with out the alliance knowing and 3 of the strongest ninja ever not knowing (kages), then it is an Edo Minato feat only. My point to you is that We don't know if he jumped extremely high in the air then threw them or Ran super fast and placed them or Threw them at a god speed etc etc. Fans (you) only assume they know what happen based off nothing when the possibilities are up in the air to be concrete.

-You say that Kurama Minato performed it.
-Yet you tell me to show you what happened to prove Base Minato did it.

Lmao, I can't even....

I don't really care how he spread them. All that matters is that he did so in a certain amount of time. Time he'll have in this fight. Meaning he'll do whatever he did, and spread his marking.

And who says Aye would instantly get demolished by Guy? When he has feats of dodging Ama, i'm sure he could hold his own long enough.

- Instead of going back and forth with you making stuff up that isn't supported by the manga. I'll simply say Minato seals a Tentacle bunshin just like madara did twice! Simple and ends that notion of that jutsu ever being a factor (when it is baseless).

Everything I stated is 100% Manga Fact. Don't blame me because you can't deal. But sure, why not? Tentacle clone works.

 

[Draegod]

The fact we see him in Base after he sucks the BD in and before he releases it is evidence he was in Base. The fact that it makes no logical sense for him to go into KCM, and then leave it, only to go back into it is evidence that what you are saying makes absolutely no sense. Please stop grasping at straws. The panels give no implication that he used Kurama Mode for that. You claimed he did, so I suggest we get some actual proof and not these nonsense assumptions.


Lol, this clown.

1. He ran, he teleported. Those are the only ways he could've set up those Kunai.

2. Please learn what a baseless claim is. No evidence of him using KCM, and then leaving it right when he appears on the battlefield. (Which is a retarded claim in itself) And the fact that it makes no sense for him to enter it, exit it, and then enter it again along with the fact he was only shown in Base is enough evidence for anyone who isn't actively trying to twist and turn the Manga any opportunity they get to realize KCM was not used. Then there's the fact that Kurama can sense when Minato uses KCM, or when he's about to use it.

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Yet he only realized Minato had KCM until he used it on panel, thus that was when he first used KCM in that battle. Not to warp the Bijuu Dama, and then exit the mode for god knows what reason. Lol.

3. Alive Minato was teleporting Kurama through the normal method. Edo Minato used the barrier. So please stop mentioning this. Not to mention ET has chakra that never runs out. Minato can use up all his chakra and still regenerate it, which could also factor into why he needed to knead chakra to warp Kurama, but warped the Juubidama instantly. Either way, it doesn't change my point since B's Bijuu Dama are nowhere near the size of the Juubi's, nor does this have shit to do with the speed he warped it. It only has to do with the size of the object he warps. That's why he needs to knead chakra.

4. If you are going to come at me with this BS you might as well not bother replying. Lol. Minato only has one jutsu that lets him warp things without actually touching them. Minato only has one jutsu that lets him warp things without physically touching them, so he can redirect them to another marking. That is the barrier. Unless you want to assert that Minato can teleport objects without having any contact with them whatsoever...lol. That only ends up helping my point more than it does hurt it.

I already said that Alive Minato can't warp something of that size. Not sure why you are trying to use that as evidence B's attack will get through the barrier when B's attack is garbage in comparison. Power and Size.



And to do that they'd have to be better than the original, who already failed to best one of them when it came to their vision. Not hard to understand. You showed the Jins who had just been hit with Hachimaki getting caught by B's ink clones. I've already shown you the Jin's performance in neutral conditions, and B was unable to tag Fuu. Plain and simple.

Never said he'll be able to get rid of them all at once. He'll be able to get rid of them. That's the point.

Sai's Jutsu is the same Ink Clone Jutsu. The only difference is B uses Hachibi's ink, Sai uses pen ink. B's are only different because B himself has different abilities, and he has an ability he made with ink clones. Doesn't change the fact that an ink clone is an ink clone, and an ink clone is fodder to a shadow clone.

And yes, they can turn into a liquid sealing jutsu, but considering B's clones are never going to grab the Shadow Clones like they did to the Jins even if Minato cuts them, his sealing jutsu isn't even a factor. Cutting instead of stabbing only makes it easier for him to escape.




-You say that Kurama Minato performed it.
-Yet you tell me to show you what happened to prove Base Minato did it.

Lmao, I can't even....

I don't really care how he spread them. All that matters is that he did so in a certain amount of time. Time he'll have in this fight. Meaning he'll do whatever he did, and spread his marking.

And who says Aye would instantly get demolished by Guy? When he has feats of dodging Ama, i'm sure he could hold his own long enough.
My my aren't your Panties all in your Poonany! Calm down kid it's not that serious. lmao (Trying so hard to "win" a simple disagreement on off panel feats)


Everything I stated is 100% Manga Fact. Don't blame me because you can't deal. But sure, why not? Tentacle clone works.

- Yet again still cannot show when he showed up, what happened, how it happene. Only your assumption on time and what Kishi was thinking. lmao Please stop, you're trying wayyyy too hard for nothing. You dont have to be in KCM to use Kurama's chakra at all. And yet again you cannot read what I posted, I stated you cannot prove he was not since it was never shown. I never stated "He 100% used Kuramamode" don't know where you got that BS from. **Sigh** Yet again trying to pass your assumption as fact with zero manga panels to use.

- I didn't know you stated he couldn't. What I seen when I hopped on the thread was you stating "and Minato already warped

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.[/B][/U] Dwarfs any Bijuu Dama B can produce". Why bring that up at all? (your going to go into a frenzy attempting to say something else ofc. I'll tell you in advance, calm your lil ass down).

- So we're comparing an entirely different jutsu to Sais are we? lol


Ink Clone Technique (墨分身の術, Sumi Bunshin no Jutsu)

Ninjutsu, C-rank, Supplementary
User: Sai

A body made up of a black splash
The user remains hidden in the darkness~~

Using ink as a medium, this clone technique is characteristic of Sai. This clone, made from a small amount of ink, carrying chakra, is different from the ordinary "Clone Technique" in that it has actual substance and mass, making it difficult to see through. Regarding the many "Root" missions involving things like surprise attacks, infiltration, and assassination, this technique is extremely useful.

[picture of Sai's Ink Clone dissolving after being stabbed by Orochimaru's Kusanagi sword]
←An exquisite clone, capable of even fooling Kabuto. When it is hit by an attack, it turns back into ink.

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Fuuinjutsu Octopus Hold

Ones limbs are entangled before their final moments

A Fuuinjutsu made for large military affairs, it can seal 1,000 enemies immediately. Jet black bushins, when they flank and entangle the enemy to bind them they kind of look like a 卍 symbol (note, this is a buddhist symbol not a swastika). Things are settle in the a moment, at the end slipping away is impossible. sealed away by a black mass.

Countless Number of Ink Bushin rock the target. In 3 seconds the whole body is dyed by ink, moving about in those circumstance is not possible.

Sealing jutsu>Sais ink clones. Please do not deny the databook's plus manga entries. Two completely working jutsu's But none the less an army of them will out do Minatos shadow clones no disputing! Unless minato's clones are... Never mind I expect you to say something along the lines "Blah blah Fodder clones.. Fodder... Blah blah... Minato>.. Blah" just because he is fast even though Bee has reacted to his striking speed twice.

- And You are confused it would seem. Kurama minato=Minato with Kurama (edo only) inside him. KCM is the transformed Minato. I thought you knew that, next time i'll simply say "Edo minato" to imply he is naturally stronger with Kurama inside him then with out.

- How is everything you stated "100% fact" when they never fought this sequence in the manga nor databook??? WTF??? Nor have you seen minato everrrrrr seal anything other then a wild Kurama. Do you even know what "fact" means??? And ofc Tentacle bunshin works, that is literally a fact! Learn the difference!


And this is why I don't take anything you say serious. You literally have no proof for anything you are stating, yet say it is 100% fact with no manga panels nor statements. lmao Then when anyone Disagree's with you you Rage and take the smallest disagreement out of porprotion like your life depended on it. SMH Definition of a Poser trying so hard for nothing. lol I'll stop wasting my time with you since you literally only have assumptions you call "fact". It's just Naruto, not that serious KG. (espicially when I never stated who would win, just simply pointing out you flawed post dont get upset next time)

 

[TRE MERCER]

Full Hachibi is overrated Ftg blitz Gamabunta knife still rips his body apart.​

 

[Null Man]

Full Hachibi is overrated Ftg blitz Gamabunta knife still rips his body apart.​

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[TRE MERCER]

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Obito stakes pierced his back[

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] So i see no reason why Gamabunta knife which is much bigger than those won't be able to do the same.​

 

[Null Man]

Obito stakes pierced his back[

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] So i see no reason why Gamabunta knife which is much bigger than those won't be able to do the same.​

Because they're

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to do just that. Unless you think Kurama can also be ripped apart by Gamabunta with his sword because Naruto's avatar also

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Gyuuki has tanked things like biju dama which are light years stronger than a big sword. Rinnegan stakes grazing the back of Gyuuki and Gamabunta's sword being bigger aren't reasons, a mere sword is going to "rip" Gyuuki's whole body apart. inb4 swords are more focused than biju dama when a toad's sword is nothing alike PS blade.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Because they're

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to do just that. Unless you think Kurama can also be ripped apart by Gamabunta with his sword because Naruto's avatar also

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"Because there designed to do that" Stop it's still nothing but steel/Metal. No Kurama is far durable than Hachibi. No Naruto didn't even have his Avatar out he only pulled Kurama head out and that stake wasn't even toching Kurama it was past him clearly.[

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] If it was true that Kurama was caught by that stake it would have never been able to shoot that Bijuu seeing as Hachibi just said they block out Bijuu chakra[

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Gyuuki has tanked things like biju dama which are light years stronger than a big sword. Rinnegan stakes grazing the back of Gyuuki and Gamabunta's sword being bigger aren't reasons, a mere sword is going to "rip" Gyuuki apart.
inb4 swords are more focused than biju dama when a toad's sword is nothing alike PS blade.

Yep his tails also tanked that Bijuudama yet they were sliced by a giant Kunai effortlessly[

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] Grazing they clearly went inside his body stop trying to down play the feat. Ps blade shouldn't be used as a comparason here when basic giant Kunai already diced him b4. So yes Gamabunta's blade gashes his chest easy.​

 

[Gold Lightning]

That's some serious reaching Lol

- Claiming Minato used kurama chakra to warp the juubi Bomb then revert back to base then reactivating kcm next chapter, without Naruto and kurama sensing that Lol
- Saying it's an Edo feat? When you still possess the same amount of chakra as you did when you were alive. And it's fact that Edo's can still be chakra exhausted, depending how much chakra their technique uses. Proved when Gengetsu used Joki boy. Minato wasn't panting after using the space time barrier on the juubi bomb, meaning it's a feat that didn't exhaust his base chakra.
- Kurama had no influence on Edo base Minato. Just like how base Narutos chakra is only his own chakra, and increases when he uses nine tails chakra.
- Some people need to learn the difference between the regular FTG method and FTG Guiding Thunder. Barrier is just a tear in space that Minato opens, uses way less chakra compared to teleporting something with just ftg. That's why base Minato can teleport a Juubi tbb without 0 effort, while KCM Minato is completely exhausted from teleporting the entire alliance. Simple manga facts here. Unless people want to claim kcm Minato has less chakra than base Minato Lol
- Made a massive square meter of 4 markings around the juubi at godly speed. Yet it's hard to fathom Minato doing the same against against Gyuki who is only tiny ant compared to the Bijuu Lol. Honestly

 

[Valhorus]

So much time has passed , some people still doesn't know basic differences in two different techniques , it is sad the educating system is that bad all around the world .

 

[Oblivionx]

Lord have mercy on your soul....or should I say your brain, if you have one. Lol

one toad held down full kurama not to mention 50% kurama is stronger than 8 tails and you are telling me, 3 toads cannot do anything against 8 tails?

 

[Oblivionx]

So Obsession4440 really is a damn retarded wanker.

ooh did i hurt you?

 

[KidGamer65]

- Yet again still cannot show when he showed up, what happened, how it happene. Only your assumption on time and what Kishi was thinking. lmao Please stop, you're trying wayyyy too hard for nothing. You dont have to be in KCM to use Kurama's chakra at all. And yet again you cannot read what I posted, I stated you cannot prove he was not since it was never shown. I never stated "He 100% used Kuramamode" don't know where you got that BS from. **Sigh** Yet again trying to pass your assumption as fact with zero manga panels to use.

And if you want to prove that he tapped into Kurama's chakra despite no signs being shown then we can talk. Until then, take the dumb responses elsewhere. All I see you doing is hopping from shitty retort to shitty retort when it's clear that Minato used no enhancement to warp the Juubidama away. Your only argument is "off panel", and the rest is made up nonsense as usual.

- I didn't know you stated he couldn't. What I seen when I hopped on the thread was you stating "and Minato already warped

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.[/B][/U] Dwarfs any Bijuu Dama B can produce". Why bring that up at all? (your going to go into a frenzy attempting to say something else ofc. I'll tell you in advance, calm your lil ass down).

No, because that was my original point. Lol. Read before you hop in so you don't look any more foolish than you already do.

- So we're comparing an entirely different jutsu to Sais are we? lol


Ink Clone Technique (墨分身の術, Sumi Bunshin no Jutsu)

Niga is dumb as fuck....christ. Let's read together since it's too hard for you to do so yourself.

Countless Number of Ink Bushin rock the target. In 3 seconds the whole body is dyed by ink, moving about in those circumstance is not possible.

A Fuuinjutsu made for large military affairs, it can seal 1,000 enemies immediately. Jet black bushins,

Oh look. B is using the same thing. Ink Clones.

Sealing jutsu>Sais ink clones. Please do not deny the databook's plus manga entries. Two completely working jutsu's But none the less an army of them will out do Minatos shadow clones no disputing! Unless minato's clones are... Never mind I expect you to say something along the lines "Blah blah Fodder clones.. Fodder... Blah blah... Minato>.. Blah" just because he is fast even though Bee has reacted to his striking speed twice.

Lol, are you really this daft?

Sai's Jutsu is the same Ink Clone Jutsu. The only difference is B uses Hachibi's ink, Sai uses pen ink. B's are only different because B himself has different abilities, and he has an ability he made with ink clones. Doesn't change the fact that an ink clone is an ink clone, and an ink clone is fodder to a shadow clone.

I've literally addressed this shit. Sealing is the only thing that makes them different, and that's what I stated, and that doesn't change the fact that the clones themselves are nowhere near as strong as the original. "Army will out do no disputing!" isn't an argument kid. When you can tell me how fodder clones touch a few of Minato's clones when they can't even react to his Hiraishin blitz then we can talk.

The original? Debatable. Fodder ink clone? No. Lol. Though thanks for displaying your inability to read "Once again".

- And You are confused it would seem. Kurama minato=Minato with Kurama (edo only) inside him. KCM is the transformed Minato. I thought you knew that, next time i'll simply say "Edo minato" to imply he is naturally stronger with Kurama inside him then with out.

Proof for the bold?

Oh wait, it's a Draegod post. Don't expect proof for anything.

- How is everything you stated "100% fact" when they never fought this sequence in the manga nor databook??? WTF??? Nor have you seen minato everrrrrr seal anything other then a wild Kurama. Do you even know what "fact" means??? And ofc Tentacle bunshin works, that is literally a fact! Learn the difference!

Minato can seal a giant enemy or an evil spirit. Killer B in BM=Giant Enemy. It's not my fault you don't have the mental capacity to put two and two together.

And this is why I don't take anything you say serious. You literally have no proof for anything you are stating, yet say it is 100% fact with no manga panels nor statements. lmao Then when anyone Disagree's with you you Rage and take the smallest disagreement out of porprotion like your life depended on it. SMH Definition of a Poser trying so hard for nothing. lol I'll stop wasting my time with you since you literally only have assumptions you call "fact". It's just Naruto, not that serious KG. (espicially when I never stated who would win, just simply pointing out you flawed post dont get upset next time)

Raging? I didn't, nor have I started to rage. The only one who is crying now is you (as usual), hence the long ass paragraph about irrelevant stuff, and then we have the petty deflection attempt. Calls me a poser but fits that role and stays being a poser for the rest of his life. Lol. You catch feelings every time you reply to me. Fuck outta here sissy boy.

S/N: How's that NB tat lookin? I know you got it.

 

[Red Slayer]

Minato/Gai wins mid diff

 

[Haizaki]

Yep, because Ay is a non factor and bee can't deal with Minatos space time ninjutsu. Nothing valid to say? Then don't say anything.

Outright bullshit...I'll make sure to address this silly reasoning of Minato being able to solo both. Ay isn't a non factor because Minato is superior to him. It's a Handicap fight and Minato get annihilated.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Outright bullshit...I'll make sure to address this silly reasoning of Minato being able to solo both. Ay isn't a non factor because Minato is superior to him. It's a Handicap fight and Minato get annihilated.

It's a handicap to Bee that Ay is on the battlefield. So yes you're correct