[VS] Gai - Minato Vs. Killer Bee - Ay

[Bronze]

Bee solos.

 

[Oblivionx]

Manga portrayal shows that minato can literally solo both Ay and Bee..! As Ay said, they butted heads on more than one occasion and we all know Bee is always with Ay yet dude considered minato impossible to surpass...! Bee trembled just hearing the name of minato, i'm sure that wasn't just because of one encounter..!
now on to feats...! Minato can solo Ay as everyone said..! the only issue is how to take down bee..!
1st:Bee can't stay in biju mode forever and if minato decides to handle Ay first that would make it 2 vs 1..! in my opinion it's minato and gai who can outlast bee's biju mode and once that happens it's inevitable defeat for bros..!
2nd: Minato is a sealing expert, how can everyone forget that? he extracted tailed beast out of himself so why can't he do that with bee? obito extracted tailed beast out of kushina and we saw him doing that again when he saved naruto so why can't minato do it? tailed beast extraction results in dead bee..!
3rd: TBB redirection..
4th: Minato summons all toads and they gang bang BM Bee..! 3 toads that fought pain's summons are more agile than BM bee..! and with minato they can get to safety even if in a bind..! they cut BM Bee into pieces..!

 

[Haizaki]

^^^Lol dude let's stop with this nonsense of the Manga implying Minato can beat both. There's the fact that it was over 13 years ago and even so, nothing was even implied when it was his clique against the cloud ninjas.

Now that I think of it, I can't believe I argued for B against these 2. Nice points @FT and @ Kidgamer.

 

[Narutimate Storm]

People crying, yet no one actually say how bee can stop minato Lol.
I guess only topic these people know is 7G >>> Kaguya

 

[TRE MERCER]

Gai and Minato easy.

Ei gets 7th gate blitzed from the start. Hachibi then gets pounded by Gai and Minato. Minato summons Gamabunta and Ftg blitz his knife through Hachibi chest etc.​

 

[Zexion~]

Comparing a feral Kyuubi to Bee's reactions who took on multiple Bijuu? :| Again FCD requires the summoner to be above the target and people are completely ignoring the fact that ST barrier has shown feats that barely reacted too a long distance TBB? Not to mention there is no reason he would shoot multiple TBB's at a target thats not Bijuu size, and he tanks one TBB anyways and from then on he would be wary of the pathetic barrier if it ever actually did hit him.

Gai's wank is even surpassing that of Bee's now apparently, its pretty pathetic.

 

[DMT]

7G Gai and Base alive Minato vs BM Bee and V2 Ei

Bee and Ei wins with anywhere from no difficulty to low-mid difficulty

 

[Gold Lightning]

Comparing a feral Kyuubi to Bee's reactions who took on multiple Bijuu? :| Again FCD requires the summoner to be above the target and people are completely ignoring the fact that ST barrier has shown feats that barely reacted too a long distance TBB? Not to mention there is no reason he would shoot multiple TBB's at a target thats not Bijuu size, and he tanks one TBB anyways and from then on he would be wary of the pathetic barrier if it ever actually did hit him.

Gai's wank is even surpassing that of Bee's now apparently, its pretty pathetic.

FCD does not require you to be above the target, show me a scan on a single instant where we saw that the user got above the target, because there is none.

Spoiler

NINJUTSU; Kuchiyose: Yatai Kuzushi no jutsu (Summoning: Cargo Shattering technique*)
User: Jiraiya
Offensive; Close, Medium, Long ranges; Rank: B

A destructive dive that takes full advantage of a giant Toad's bodily mass! The strength of the fall varies depending on the caster. In the case of someone like Jiraiya from the Sannin, the summon can be performed in an instant right above the target, further adding the great gravitational force of a good several hundred meters high dive to the Toad's own weight!!

How can the technique be all ranges if it means the user needs to be above the target. That would make it short ranged, but no, the jutsu is all ranges.

Also notice the rank of the technique, it's a B rank. Meanwhile, summoning jutsu is just C rank. But they're the same technique, so why is one more advanced than the other. Just because you get above your target and make a summon doesnt mean it is FCD, No. That just makes it summoning jutsu above a target, which is still C rank.

FCD is an actual summoning technique. It allows the user to summon a toad directly above from wherever they're standing. The toad appears instantly above the target, rather than where the hand is placed. That's what makes it different from the C rank version and B rank. Naruto, Jiraya and Minato aren't required to jump "several hundred meters" just to get above their target, that's ridiculous. The "strength of the fall depends on the caster". This again tells you that you don't need to be above the target. Depending on the skill you have with the technique determines how powerful the summoning dive will be. If all it required was to get as high as possible above the target, then there would be no skill to the jutsu. The "summon can be performed in an instant, above the target". There is nothing in this db description that says the user must get above the target. In fact it says the summon can be initiated right on top of the target instantly.

Not sure why you are downplaying space time barrier, minato used it casually against kuramas tbb. So not seeing why you're saying barely? Didn't he use it on the Juubi bomb as well? Also down playing kurama too I see. He is the only sensor of all the bijuu, yet he didn't react to FCD, its an instant summoning. BM Bee isn't reacting to it.

 

[Zexion~]

FCD does not require you to be above the target, show me a scan on a single instant where we saw that the user got above the target, because there is none.

Spoiler

NINJUTSU; Kuchiyose: Yatai Kuzushi no jutsu (Summoning: Cargo Shattering technique*)
User: Jiraiya
Offensive; Close, Medium, Long ranges; Rank: B

A destructive dive that takes full advantage of a giant Toad's bodily mass! The strength of the fall varies depending on the caster. In the case of someone like Jiraiya from the Sannin, the summon can be performed in an instant right above the target, further adding the great gravitational force of a good several hundred meters high dive to the Toad's own weight!!

How can the technique be all ranges if it means the user needs to be above the target. That would make it short ranged, but no, the jutsu is all ranges.

Also notice the rank of the technique, it's a B rank. Meanwhile, summoning jutsu is just C rank. But they're the same technique, so why is one more advanced than the other. Just because you get above your target and make a summon doesnt mean it is FCD, No. That just makes it summoning jutsu above a target, which is still C rank.

FCD is an actual summoning technique. It allows the user to summon a toad directly above from wherever they're standing. The toad appears instantly above the target, rather than where the hand is placed. That's what makes it different from the C rank version and B rank. Naruto, Jiraya and Minato aren't required to jump "several hundred meters" just to get above their target, that's ridiculous. The "strength of the fall depends on the caster". This again tells you that you don't need to be above the target. Depending on the skill you have with the technique determines how powerful the summoning dive will be. If all it required was to get as high as possible above the target, then there would be no skill to the jutsu. The "summon can be performed in an instant, above the target". There is nothing in this db description that says the user must get above the target. In fact it says the summon can be initiated right on top of the target instantly.

Not sure why you are downplaying space time barrier, minato used it casually against kuramas tbb. So not seeing why you're saying barely? Didn't he use it on the Juubi bomb as well? Also down playing kurama too I see. He is the only sensor of all the bijuu, yet he didn't react to FCD, its an instant summoning. BM Bee isn't reacting to it.

Summon can be performed in an instant right above the target :|

No he didn't use it "Casually" and get me a scan of it being used against the Juubi? Kyuubi can be a sensor all he wants but when he's under Sharingan he's feral Lol

 

[pateuvasiliu]

^^This guy thinks Minato solos Ay and B? Oh yeah it's that same user.

OT: I change my mind...I think Team 1 can take it.

Of course he can. Ay literally can't touch him and Bee will end up with his bijuudamas used against him.

As soon as Minato tags Bee ( and in BM this is a piece of cake ) the match is over.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Summon can be performed in an instant right above the target :|

No he didn't use it "Casually" and get me a scan of it being used against the Juubi? Kyuubi can be a sensor all he wants but when he's under Sharingan he's feral Lol

Yes, the summon is performed above the target. Where else is the toad going to come from, underneath? The summoning is made, and the toad appears above the target, that's what it is saying. Or are you really gonna try and tell me that a jutsu that is classified as all ranges, only works short range because that's what you want to believe. Well go ahead, your belief makes no sense. Basically just ignored everything I wrote for one line that you misinterpret. Counter the rest of the post, otherwise concede. Because what you have convinced yourself is that a long range classified technique is short ranged because your logic says so.

Why do I need a scan, he teleported the Bomb to the ocean.

FCD was used on Kurama after sharingan control was removed, so no.

And wow, just wow. Read the manga:

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He was standing there without a care in the world, even talking to the nine tails "oh, so you noticed me, bout damn time, I was waiting".

Then he makes the hand signs and just look at his face. Is that the face of someone who is struggling. Lol please. And then it's confirmed in the war arc that he doesn't even need hand signs, all he has to do is stick out his kunai. How anyone with eyes can try and deny that casually warped that bomb is just plain stupid.

 

[Zexion~]

Yes, the summon is performed above the target. Where else is the toad going to come from, underneath? The summoning is made, and the toad appears above the target, that's what it is saying. Or are you really gonna try and tell me that a jutsu that is classified as all ranges, only works short range because that's what you want to believe. Well go ahead, your belief makes no sense. Basically just ignored everything I wrote for one line that you misinterpret. Counter the rest of the post, otherwise concede. Because what you have convinced yourself is that a long range classified technique is short ranged because your logic says so.

Why do I need a scan, he teleported the Bomb to the ocean.

FCD was used on Kurama after sharingan control was removed, so no.

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He was standing there without a care in the world, even talking to the nine tails "oh, so you noticed me, bout damn time, I was waiting".

Then he makes the hand signs and just look at his face. Is that the face of someone who is struggling. Lol please. And then it's confirmed in the war arc that he doesn't even need hand signs, all he has to do is stick out his kunai. How anyone with eyes can try and deny that casually warped that bomb is just plain stupid.

Do you know what performed means? Performing the summon obviously means that the user has to perform the summon above, the creature appearing doesn't count as "perform" So please.

Lol the fact that you focused in on the word struggling, don't give a shit about his pineapple looking head, the jutsu almost hit him before he did shit, now put the range as 20x closer and you've got someone who's going to struggle majorly to block such a thing.

Again B whirlwind is what causes them the most trouble anyways.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Yeah pretty sure Minato can do 3 hand signs before Bee can load up, fire and explode his bijuudama.

 

[KidGamer65]

the fact that you focused in on the word struggling, don't give a shit about his pineapple looking head, the jutsu almost hit him before he did shit, now put the range as 20x closer and you've got someone who's going to struggle majorly to block such a thing.

Again B whirlwind is what causes them the most trouble anyways.

Lol, you're clearly wrong here. He warped Kurama's Bijuu Dama, with ease. It didn't almost hit him, not sure where you are reading this in the Manga. It was fired, he easily intercepted it. He easily intercepted the Juubi's Bijuu Dama (instantly) and he'd easily intercept Killer B's Bijuu Dama unless you can prove that Minato can't react to a Bijuu Dama anymore. Lol.

Comparing a feral Kyuubi to Bee's reactions who took on multiple Bijuu? Again FCD requires the summoner to be above the target and people are completely ignoring the fact that ST barrier has shown feats that barely reacted too a long distance TBB? Not to mention there is no reason he would shoot multiple TBB's at a target thats not Bijuu size, and he tanks one TBB anyways and from then on he would be wary of the pathetic barrier if it ever actually did hit him.

Gai's wank is even surpassing that of Bee's now apparently, its pretty pathetic.

You complain about Gai's "wank", but if Gai was really being wanked here, all arguments would easily be countered. Yet I'm not seeing that here at all.

 

[Unorthodox]

wait who has the majority team 1 or team 2 not seeing how gai is even a factor here though same for Ei this is basically Minato vs Killerbee and Bijuu dama barrage ends this

 

[KidGamer65]

4th: Minato summons all toads and they gang bang BM Bee..! 3 toads that fought pain's summons are more agile than BM bee..! and with minato they can get to safety even if in a bind..! they cut BM Bee into pieces..!

Lord have mercy on your soul....or should I say your brain, if you have one. Lol

 

[Draegod]

^ Why do people think that Bijuu Wave is immune to being sucked completely in by the Space time Barrier? It's a Bijuu Dama in wave form. There is literally no aspect that'd stop it from being sucked into the barrier. None whatsoever. Not to mention teleporting a Bijuu Dama aimed towards the ground is no different from teleporting one coming at them, and Minato already warped

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. Dwarfs any Bijuu Dama B can produce. Hell. The Bijuu Dama B can use, Continuous and Standard, are dwarfed by the Bijuu Dama Minato redirected when Kurama attacked the village let alone the Juubi's, which Minato already warped away, instantlySo either way you wanna slice it, B's Bijuu Dama aren't getting past the Space Time Barrier.

And even if they do explode, Minato would have already set up markers outside of that attack's AoE. B gets hit with 4 Bijuu Dama and dies a terrible death along with Ay while Minato and Gai warp away to safety.



He can move around all he wants, but it's not going to change the fact that he will never tag Gai or Minato. Ever.



Fodder ink clones are never holding back Minato's Shadow Clones. Lol.



Why would the beam curve around the barrier when it'd be shot right towards the barrier and be sucked in? Lol. Doesn't make sense. It's fired as a laser, and then it explodes. Minato sucks it in while it's a laser just how he sucks in a normal Bijuu Dama while it's a bomb.

The only point you have is outlasting, but everything is moot. And even outlasting isn't going to happen if B tries to use Continuous Bijuu Dama here. Then there's Minato's Hakke Fuuin and Four Symbols Seal, which can put B down for good if he can land it, but the chances of that aren't very high.

-Feat from Kurama Minato; Null and void.
- Ink clones bested 3 tomoe Obito's Eyes and Linked rinnegan vision. I wouldn't call them fodder especially when he can make a thousand of them.
- Space time barrier requirs hand seals ans a predetermined location already marked. That would mean Minato has to some how through the fight get a kunai as farrrrr as possible other wise wasted attempt.
- Trying to seal something already sealed? Plus the databook states "evil" which Bee is not.

 

[Amaterasu]

Lmaoo this thread is so funny.

Anyways, imo, Team 1 wins mid high diff, Gai would use Hirudora on Ay while Minato uses FTG on Bee's TBB and reflects to him. GG

 

[KidGamer65]

-Feat from Kurama Minato; Null and void.

1. Speed doesn't change. Only the size of what is warped.

2. Base Minato. So no. Feat is perfectly viable as long as I don't claim he can warp something of that size away.

- Ink clones bested 3 tomoe Obito's Eyes and Linked rinnegan vision. I wouldn't call them fodder especially when he can make a thousand of them.

No they didn't. They pinned the Jins after B blew them away and knocked them down with Hachimaki. Not to mention it'd make no logical sense for B's weak ink clones to easily defeat the Jins when B and Naruto were having issues with Shared Vision and Sharingan precognition. He can make 1000 of them, but will that do? They are even weaker than the original B, who stands no chance against Hiraishin (even a clone's), or 7G Gai's attacks.

- Space time barrier requirs hand seals ans a predetermined location already marked. That would mean Minato has to some how through the fight get a kunai as farrrrr as possible other wise wasted attempt.

Which won't be hard since he has Gai as back up, and clones to spread his marking. And it only has to be as far away as the width of a Bijuu Dama's explosion, which isn't a significant distance when you are a teleporter w/ clones.

- Trying to seal something already sealed? Plus the databook states "evil" which Bee is not.

B isn't sealed. His Bijuu is. Minato can attempt to seal B. Databook says it can be used to seal an evil spirit or a giant enemy. Bijuu=Giant enemy.

 

[Xlad]

So Obsession4440 really is a damn retarded wanker.