[Discussion] GAARA killed WAY MORE innocent people than SASUKE and he became KAZEKAGE.!

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How can you compare two people life stories and say who has more pain? Sasuke whole entire clan was wipe out by the brother he love then he wanted to take revenge. Later he finds out Itachi was a good person. Gaara was in pain but you think Sasuke was not? Sasuke has no family either.
 

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Exactly if they forgive gaara and make him a hero so is sasuke


And in the end we all know naruto will be the hokage but seeing there rivalty again will be fun

finally some one who understands the naruto series
 

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Tell me why you purposely skipped the part when Sasuke, as a part of international terrorist organization, walked in Kumogakure and tried to kidnap Hachibi? It doesnt change anything that in the end he failed.

A simple fact of being a missing-ninja gives him a death sentence and it's always been like that.

Killed Hokage. You can say that Danzo killed himself but when someone comes across a wanted criminal on his path than ends up dead and this criminal still lives, everyone would see it as being killed by this criminal...

He killed those Samurais on kage summit. You cannot skip them just because they are fodders

hey i know y u r defending the fodders its cause ur 1 of them :D

i figured that out from the way u talk
 

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ur justin biebers shit fan



u really are the real gay
 

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Gaara killed Yashimaru in self defence, probably other assassings in self defence, 3 people in the chuunin exams that doessnt count.
The only one left are the two guys that wanted him to throw the fight against sasuke for money, and noone saw that.
 

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Ok let's begin :
Sasuke's supposed criminal acts :
-Trying to capture Hachibi but fails.( Hachibi is alive so it's not as bad as if Hachibi was dead )
-Joining Akatsuki.
-Attacking the summit ( which it wasn't supposed to go that way because it was an infiltration mission but Obito screwed it up purposely. )
-Killing samurais ( He didn't want to kill them in the first place , he even said "get out of my way or you'll assume the consequences " ).
-Killing Danzo ( He deserves it ).
-The Kages attacked him , all what he did is defending himself. ( his goal was Danzo and nothing else ).

Now his good acts :

-Killing Deidara a criminal S-class Shinobi who Kidnapped the Kazekage and resorted in his death , so in way he avenged the Kazekage , but haters will say :
"No he blew himself up that doesn't count ."

So what ? who drove that idiot to blew himself up ? and if you go by that logic then Naruto didn't kill Kakuzu either , it's Kakashi who killed him.

If he killed Sasuke with his explosion , yea he would have been the winner but no Sasuke survived so STFU.

-He killed Itachi ( yea Itachi let him yada yada yada ) but in everybody's mind : ITACHI IS A VILLAIN.

So at this point he freed Konoha and the world from 2 S-class Shinobi.

-He helped Itachi in stopping the ET and haters will say as always :
"No it's Itachi who did it "
And i say hell no , if Itachi was alone he would be Kabuto's pawn as we speak now and if Sasuke was alone he would probably lost.
Understand that Kishi put them together against Kabuto for a reason.
And Onoki said whoever stopped the ET is a hero who protected the Shinobi world.

-He saved Anko and released here from the CS.

-He revived Orochimaro so that he revives the previous Kages and blablabla and then go to the battlefield.
So right there he saved the Ninja world 2 times.

In the end , yes he did some criminal acts but when people hear the truth about Itachi and that SOB Danzo and what Sasuke did in this war , they will forgive him and welcome him back to the village and be a candidate for the title of Hokage.

PS: Naruto , Kakashi , Hiruzen ,Orochimaro and Taka know the truth about Itachi and they will defend Sasuke.

You still skeptical ?
Ok let's see what would have happened if Sasuke didn't done what he has done :
-Kabuto would still be around.
-Itachi would have become Kabuto's pawn.
-ET would still be going.
-Tsunade and Kages would have been killed for sure.
-Naruto and SA would have been killed by the Juubi Bijuu Dama ( the one that Minato teleported ).

That's all i have to say and like always hater will either ignore my post , talking shit or call me a fanboy.
Do what you want i don't give a fu*k and for your information yes i like Sasuke but my favorite character ( as i said in some thread before ) is Gaara.

Peace.
 
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There is only one reason why Sasuke cannot become Hokage... there are better candidates then him, also I'm having doubts about his resolve he only cares for his ambitions only, the he achieves them he not care
 

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Why is Sasuke's decision to become Hokage such a SHOCK (unexpected or downright a mistake) ?

Let's compare Sasuke's life to DOTA. You can level up just by being in the vicinity of a fight

Let's look at the facts why Sasuke becoming a Hokage is NOT CRAZY.
Sasuke's CRAZY DAYS (after timeskip to defeating Kabuto)

. He is credited on killing Orochimaru an enemy of Konoha (yep. even if he's weakened)
. He killed Deidara an S-Class criminal (even if he blew himself up)
. He also killed Itachi (even if he let him win) the fact still exist......... ITACHI HEROIC ACTS ARE IN THE SHADOWS only a few people knew the truth.
In eveybody's knowledge ITACHI IS A VILLAIN
. During the Kage Summit his target was Danzou (we'll he's a little crazy)
BUT HE ONLY PROTECTED HIMSELF and its OBITO'S FAULT why Sasuke is an international criminal
BECAUSE OBITO HELPED HIM and the Kages saw that.
. He killed Danzou (yes Danzou is a villain he protected Konoha in his own ways but he did some atrocious things WAY MORE.
. Whether we like it or not HE MIGHT GET CREDITED FOR STOPING EDO TENSEI

Sasuke to REDEMPTION

. He is the one responsible for bringing the HOKAGES BACK TO LIFE
. and the fact that he's on this war on Konohas side.

I am not a SASUKE FANBOY but these are the facts from the manga that describes Sasuke's road to redemption.
I mean as the title says Gaara KILLED WAY MORE INNOCENT PEOPLE and look at him now he's the Kazekage, why not Sasuke.

I have to congratulate you, my son. Everypoint you made has a solid support.
 
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Ok let's begin :
Sasuke's supposed criminal acts :
-Trying to capture Hachibi but fails.( Hachibi is alive so it's not as bad as if Hachibi was dead )
-Joining Akatsuki.
-Attacking the summit ( which it's wasn't supposed to go that way because it was an infiltration mission but Obito screwed it up purposely. )
-Killing samurais ( He didn't want to kill them in the first place , he even said "get out of my way or you'll assume the consequences " ).
-Killing Danzo ( He deserves it ).
-The Kages attacked him , all what he did is defending himself. ( his goal was Danzo and nothing else ).

Now his good acts :

-Killing Deidara a criminal S-class Shinobi who Kidnapped the Kazekage and resorted in his death , so in way he avenged the Kazekage , but haters will say :
"No he blew himself up that doesn't count ."

So what ? who drove that idiot to blew himself up ? and if you go by that logic then Naruto didn't kill Kakuzu either , it's Kakashi who killed him.

If he killed Sasuke with his explosion , yea he would have been winner but no Sasuke survived so STFU.

-He killed Itachi ( yea Itachi let him yada yada yada ) but in everybody's mind : ITACHI IS A VILLAIN.

So at this point he freed Konoha and the world from 2 S-class Shinobi.

-He helped Itachi in stopping the ET and haters will say as always :
"No it's Itachi who did it "
And i say hell no , if Itachi was alone he would be Kabuto's pawn as we speak now and if Sasuke was alone he would probably lost.
Understand that Kishi put them 2 together against Kabuto for a reason.
And Onoki said whoever stopped the ET is a hero who protected the Shinobi world.

-He saved Anko and released here from the CS.

-He revived Orochimaro so that he revives the previous Kages and blablabla and then go to the battlefield.
So right there he saved the Ninja world 2 times.

In the end , yes he did some criminal acts but when people hear the truth about Itachi and that SOB Danzo and what Sasuke did in this war , they will forgive him and welcome him back to the village and be a candidate for the title of Hokage.

PS: Naruto , Kakashi , Hiruzen ,Orochimaro and Taka know the truth about Itachi and they will defend Sasuke.

You still skeptical ?
Ok let's see what would have happened if Sasuke didn't done what he has done :
-Kabuto would still be around.
-Itachi would have become Kabuto's pawn.
-ET would still be going.
-Tsunade and Kages would have been killed for sure.
-Naruto and SA would have been killed by the Juubi Bijuu Dama ( the one that Minato teleported ).

That's all i have to say and like always hater will either ignore my post , talking shit or call me a fanboy.
Do what you want i don't give a fu*k and for your information yes i like Sasuke but my favorite character ( as i said in some thread before ) is Gaara.

Peace.

Agreed for the most part.

However, the opinions of Taka and Orochimaru aren't going to be influential due to Orochimaru's deeds in the past. In addition, we're not even sure that Orochimaru approves of Sasuke's Hokage declaration.

Also, even if the other kages do hear the truth concerning Sasuke's intent at the kage summit (killing Danzou), it doesn't nullify the fact that Sasuke did in fact quarrel with the kages. Some of the kages might forgive him for that, but the Raikage and the Mizukage seem like characters who would oppose forgiveness.
The attack on Bee is another point that is going to cause strife between Sasuke and the Hidden Cloud Village, making it difficult to have good relations with the Raikage.

If you want to be Hokage, you also have to be a politically coherent candidate. Sasuke has a lot going against him in this particular area. He's ticked off all of the other kages at some point, so trying to maintain good relations between Konoha and the other Hidden Villages will be difficult if Sasuke were to acquire the title of Hokage.

If we know anything about human nature, we know that forgiveness doesn't come easy, and even those from Sasuke's own village will be highly skeptical of his actions (as they have already demonstrated amongst the K11). It will still be difficult to be acknowledged and accepted. The path towards Hokage for Sasuke would likely be a long and hard one, just as it has been for Naruto. Similarly, Gaara's path to Kazekage probably wasn't easy either.

So is it possible? Certainly.
Is it probable? Not at this point in time.

And with regard to the title of this thread, it's true that Gaara did kill quite a few individuals in cannon in order to "validate his existence," but we don't see any innocent people killed from his village during his childhood. It was merely implied that he killed people because of the assassination orders against him. We don't know how many people died when Gaara rampaged due to losing control of Shukaku, either. His father may have stopped him early on with his gold dust before any fatalities occurred. We just don't know.
 

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Finally some Naruto fan who knows what his talking about , i gladly gonna debate with you sir , so :
However, the opinions of Taka and Orochimaru aren't going to be influential due to Orochimaru's deeds in the past. In addition, we're not even sure that Orochimaru approves of Sasuke's Hokage declaration.

I agree with you.

but the Raikage and the Mizukage seem like characters who would oppose forgiveness.

The Raikage , yes definitely but the Mizukage , i don't think so. (especially because she was the one who started the fight )

The attack on Bee is another point that is going to cause strife between Sasuke and the Hidden Cloud Village, making it difficult to have good relations with the Raikage.

Don't forget the Hyuga incident who was caused by the Hidden Cloud Village.

If we know anything about human nature, we know that forgiveness doesn't come easy, and even those from Sasuke's own village will be highly skeptical of his actions (as they have already demonstrated amongst the K11). It will still be difficult to be acknowledged and accepted. The path towards Hokage for Sasuke would likely be a long and hard one, just as it has been for Naruto. Similarly, Gaara's path to Kazekage probably wasn't easy either.
So is it possible? Certainly.
Is it probable? Not at this point in time.

I Think you're right , but what if Sasuke does something heroic in this fight ? like saving all the SA from Juubi ( with his Perfect Susanoo or something ) or saving Bee from being absorbed by Juubi at some point ?
 

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Gaara didn't commit treason.

Sasuke has no chance of being Hokage, its the village that chooses the Hokage and nobody would elect him with Naruto, Kakashi, and Shikamaru around.
 

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Sasuke loved his parents, his siblings and got the same back from them. He lost his parents and his clan and hated his brother. Even after he lost his parents, he lived under a protected village.
On the other hand, Gaara had his father, his siblings and his village. But his own family treated him like a tool. He was hated by all the villagers. He faced everything from his childhood till his battle with Naruto.
Sasuke had the love of his friend. Gaara didn't had any.
Even if Gaara was a Jinchuriki he struggled to be accepted by his village.
On the other hand Sasuke left the village to the one who tried to destroy the village.
Villagers accepted Gaara.
Sasuke after learning about Itachi's sacrifice turned on the village. After hearing the truth about his clan he suddenly decided to become Hokage whether the villagers accept him or not. He blames everything happened on the previous Hokages. Such a hokage will never be accepted no matter how much he tries.
There's a big difference in Sasuke and Gaara's struggle for becoming the Kage of their respective village. And Sasuke won't succeed.
 

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Gaara's from Suna, not Konoha. He is not the Hokage. Plus, they initially, chose him as their Kazekage, because they were scared of him. Nobody is afraid of Sasuke, the dude will never be elected because of fear or because there's a shortage of suitable canditates. It's not the same situation at all, thus an invalid comparison from the get-go.

Suna is also the weakest of the villages,by far , which means they opt to other methods than the big villages. It's extremely silly to act like they follow the same rules or share the same needs.

Finally, Sasuke chose his own path full aware of the consequences of his actions while Gaara redeemed himself after getting control of his own body and had people actually helping him.
 
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Gaara is not considered an international criminal by 5 nations like Sasuke is.
 

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Sasuke can't be hokage, because to be a hokage, he/she must have will of fire. And he just don't have it at all.

He want to be hokage, coz he blame of all the things happens to him to the previous kages, and he want to be hokage so he can change the village the way he think it's right.

But to became a hokage, one must be acknowledged by everyone first, just like Itachi said to Naruto.

I am not Sasuke fans, but am not his hater too. For me, his motivation to became hokage is not pure. He want it because he want to change the village, to take a revange in his own term and ways..

Even though he don't care of what other people in the village feels about him, but they can't easily forget about what Sasuke did, he can't simply erase his mistakes.

Pardon me for bad grammars...
 

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Sasuke killed high profile people, he killed a Hokage candidate, it doesn't matter if people don't like him, and he joined and helped an organisation now waging war on the world, Sasuke was more of an overall threat to the world than Gaara was, his threat was relatively contained
 
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