Funny Accurate video on "Native" Americans

[slimreaper]

Ok, what is your theory then? Black people are just incapable of learning at the same level as white people because they are naturally more stupid?

Why is that black people in the UK fair much better than black people in the U.S.? Yeah, I'm sure discrimination has nothing to do with it.

[video=youtube;Eu_bKJ11O0M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu_bKJ11O0M[/video]

 

[ComplexCity]

[video=youtube;Eu_bKJ11O0M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu_bKJ11O0M[/video]

Stopped at :14 when the announcer named the majority in the US that are discriminated against (blacks, mexicans & puerto ricans) and put into more difficult positions. Light is doing a great job continuously writing your name in his death note with his great penmanship. So I'll just keep eating my popcorn

 

[Lightbringer]

[video=youtube;Eu_bKJ11O0M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu_bKJ11O0M[/video]

lol Sowell said that Barack Obama is the worst president in history, even worse than James Buchanan and George W. Bush.

I don't care how many videos you post of him, he's not that bright and you simply take him at his word. You source him for every argument you make and that in itself is a stupid thing to do. He's not an encyclopedia nor is he the best in his field. In fact, he has a notorious reputation.

So go home with that Sowell bullcrap.

 

[slimreaper]

lol Sowell said that Barack Obama is the worst president in history, even worse than James Buchanan and George W. Bush.

I don't care how many videos you post of him, he's not that bright and you simply take him at his word. You source him for every argument you make and that in itself is a stupid thing to do. He's not an encyclopedia nor is he the best in his field. In fact, he has a notorious reputation.

So go home with that Sowell bullcrap.

False equivalency right there.

So because he made a different argument you don't agree with, he's wrong on this?

How many books have you written on the subject? None?


Look at the 1700 like and the 18 dislikes. You have no argument as always, so you deflect, as always.

Name one intellectual who is unanimously loved and believed... don't worry i'll wait.

[video=youtube;HFNdrP1mrNA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFNdrP1mrNA&nohtml5=False[/video]


until you can counter sowell's points and not just slander his name we're done

 

[Claymantan]

What discrimination makes black students do badly at MIT? Don't worry ill wait

There are studies showing that racial difference between black students and the majorly white faculties in most (read: all) Ivy League institutions disadvantages black students from forming relationships with professors and being willing to do things like go to office hours and ask questions and whatnot. Emotional outlets and such matter to one's college experience as well, and a predominantly white student body can inhibit that and raise stress levels.

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Also, do badly is an exaggeration. The graduation rates are within ten points of difference. Overall, graduation rate gaps have been decreasing over time. Furthermore, in smaller colleges, blacks outperform whites (Smith, Macalester, Wellsley).

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There are also confounding variables. Lower-income students tend to underperform in Ivy Leagues (specifically, the negative effect is greater in Ivys than in other types of schools) as well.

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I had to upload these to Dropbox because ordinarily you probably wouldn't be able to access them. I'll take down the Dropbox links at some point, probably.

Your claims are misrepresentative and overblown. As usual, again, your argument is reductionist and absolutist, and assumes one simple, unsubstantiated explanation for a phenomenon that other studies have illuminated much more rigorously. Most claims founded on prejudice are just intellectually lazy, and this thread is an example of that.

 

[Sakura Michiko]

I legit feel like this guy makes the same time of post over and over again.

 

[Lightbringer]

False equivalency right there.

So because he made a different argument you don't agree with, he's wrong on this?

How many books have you written on the subject? None?


Look at the 1700 like and the 18 dislikes. You have no argument as always, so you deflect, as always.

Name one intellectual who is unanimously loved and believed... don't worry i'll wait.

[video=youtube;HFNdrP1mrNA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFNdrP1mrNA&nohtml5=False[/video]


until you can counter sowell's points and not just slander his name we're done

And how many books have you written? None.

****, even Ben Carson wrote books that sell. That's how he made his money and why he said all of that stupid shit during the presidential race.

Trump has gotten over a billion dollars of free media publicity for saying things that are widely controversial.


Ok, so when I see more likes than dislikes on a Justin Bieber video, does it mean his songs are good? No, what that means is the people who watch that video are usually fans of that person. The people watching the videos about Sowell, Milton, etc. are people like you.

Hell, I even read the comments and they are all saying things like how black people are lazy and how hard work is all it takes to be successful.




Until you make an original intellectual statement, we're done.

 

[slimreaper]

There are studies showing that racial difference between black students and the majorly white faculties in most (read: all) Ivy League institutions disadvantages black students from forming relationships with professors and being willing to do things like go to office hours and ask questions and whatnot. Emotional outlets and such matter to one's college experience as well, and a predominantly white student body can inhibit that and raise stress levels.

You must be registered for see links

Also, do badly is an exaggeration. The graduation rates are within ten points of difference. Overall, graduation rate gaps have been decreasing over time. Furthermore, in smaller colleges, blacks outperform whites (Smith, Macalester, Wellsley).

You must be registered for see links

There are also confounding variables. Lower-income students tend to underperform in Ivy Leagues (specifically, the negative effect is greater in Ivys than in other types of schools) as well.

You must be registered for see links

I had to upload these to Dropbox because ordinarily you probably wouldn't be able to access them. I'll take down the Dropbox links at some point, probably.

Your claims are misrepresentative and overblown. As usual, again, your argument is reductionist and absolutist, and assumes one simple, unsubstantiated explanation for a phenomenon that other studies have illuminated much more rigorously. Most claims founded on prejudice are just intellectually lazy, and this thread is an example of that.

So black students would do better with black teachers? why did we ever de-segregate then? So black students are racist.

DO badly as in the example I listed isn't an exaggeration

[video=youtube;72dRkGwllmI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72dRkGwllmI&nohtml5=False[/video]

When you consider the difference in population size ten points is a freaking lot.

 

[slimreaper]

And how many books have you written? None.

****, even Ben Carson wrote books that sell. That's how he made his money and why he said all of that stupid shit during the presidential race.

Trump has gotten over a billion dollars of free media publicity for saying things that are widely controversial.


Ok, so when I see more likes than dislikes on a Justin Bieber video, does it mean his songs are good? No, what that means is the people who watch that video are usually fans of that person. The people watching the videos about Sowell, Milton, etc. are people like you.

Hell, I even read the comments and they are all saying things like how black people are lazy and how hard work is all it takes to be successful.




Until you make an original intellectual statement, we're done.

This is a poorly constructed argument. I'm not the one claiming people who've written books on topics aren't experts in those fields.

you cite no people with your posts, just use false equivalency to try to get around disproving them.

At lease claymantan can actually bring figures and studies. You're just weak

 

[Claymantan]

So black students would do better with black teachers? why did we ever de-segregate then? So black students are racist.

DO badly as in the example I listed isn't an exaggeration[/video]

When you consider the difference in population size ten points is a freaking lot.

Alright dude start quoting or at least paraphrase what the source says because I'm not going to watch a 13 minute video to find shaky claims that I've shown are either irrelevant, legitimately contested by more current scholarship, or are just misrepresented. And you need to stop relying so hard on Sowell when I've provided an array of other researchers that say other things.

Also you're either trolling or lazy, because obviously substandard integration is not an excuse to end all integration. Again, the principle is not invalidated by poor application. We desegregated because during segregation black schools were underfunded and furthermore there's no such thing as a separate economy for separate races; we all have to enter the same damn market.

No one could possibly comb through this thread and find your claims to be solid, they're just plain weak and rely on this guy you watch on YouTube in your spare time who's a has-been at best and a charlatan at worst. In the other thread you even had to admit that his claims founded on statistics couldn't actually be proven.

 

[Lightbringer]

This is a poorly constructed argument. I'm not the one claiming people who've written books on topics aren't experts in those fields.

you cite no people with your posts, just use false equivalency to try to get around disproving them.

At lease claymantan can actually bring figures and studies. You're just weak

I just don't waste my energy on you. I used to post statistics and sources all of the time when I first started debating you, and you just ignored them all the same.

Why should I waste my time in doing something that will be a fruitless endeavor?

Or I can just be like you and post video after video of having someone else do the argument for me? I'm sure you'll take 15 minutes of your time to watch each video in every comment I post.

 

[slimreaper]

Alright dude start quoting or at least paraphrase what the source says because I'm not going to watch a 13 minute video to find shaky claims that I've shown are either irrelevant, legitimately contested by more current scholarship, or are just misrepresented. And you need to stop relying so hard on Sowell when I've provided an array of other researchers that say other things.

Also you're either trolling or lazy, because obviously substandard integration is not an excuse to end all integration. Again, the principle is not invalidated by poor application. We desegregated because during segregation black schools were underfunded and furthermore there's no such thing as a separate economy for separate races; we all have to enter the same damn market.

No one could possibly comb through this thread and find your claims to be solid, they're just plain weak and rely on this guy you watch on YouTube in your spare time who's a has-been at best and a charlatan at worst. In the other thread you even had to admit that his claims founded on statistics couldn't actually be proven.

It's the same thing that the average black student at MIT was in the top 10% nationally yet in the bottom 10% at MIT

The evidence you presented helped my cause. the black students did on average 8 points worse at the big schools, and on par with whites at the little schools. Like I said, when you take into consideration size of population at those schools, it's a great gap if you trail by 8 points.

it was a sarcastic comment, I completely understand why we ended segregation.

although blacks did better as far a business ownership when things were segregated.

 

[Claymantan]

although blacks did better as far a business ownership when things were segregated.

This is at least somewhat correct; the full story is that integration of segregated urban ghettos and poor areas meant that blacks lost exclusive ownership of business in the area, and franchises/gentrification pushed them out of ownership. That's why dudes like the Black Panthers were trying to revive black separatism/black power.

I've made my points so I'm gonna leave this thread alone now