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Who made you the judge of what's "significant enough"?


Different skin, hair, noses, lips, average height, average muscle density, average eye color, etc


We aren't the same at all. You just choose to be ignorant.


And why are those differences significant? It's not like one race is able to shoot lightning out of their hands and others aren't. Are you saying that people should be treated differently because of aesthetic differences? Something that no one has control over?

No matter the physical differences, the mental similarities remain the same. We are all capable of individual thought. We all have a conscience. We all have the ability to reflect and remorse. Every race is capable of producing geniuses.

That's what's important, not physical differences.
 

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And why are those differences significant? It's not like one race is able to shoot lightning out of their hands and others aren't. Are you saying that people should be treated differently because of aesthetic differences? Something that no one has control over?

No matter the physical differences, the mental similarities remain the same. We are all capable of individual thought. We all have a conscience. We all have the ability to reflect and remorse. Every race is capable of producing geniuses.

That's what's important, not physical differences.

so mentally we're all the same?


Why would people who grew in different parts of the world, with different characteristics, share the same levels of intelligence?

research into race and intellect is inconclusive due to people like you saying it isn't worthy of being funded. And if differences are found excuses are made.


Obvious Dimorphism is ignored, unlike in bears, because people like you control the research


we have no accurate way to measure differences, so you're jumping the gun.
 

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Being a self hating cuck is worse than being a clan member? yeah, no.

You really think being a plain white guilter is worse than being a member of something like KKK? If so i feel sorry but i did not get this reply.
 

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so mentally we're all the same?


Why would people who grew in different parts of the world, with different characteristics, share the same levels of intelligence?

research into race and intellect is inconclusive due to people like you saying it isn't worthy of being funded. And if differences are found excuses are made.


Obvious Dimorphism is ignored, unlike in bears, because people like you control the research


we have no accurate way to measure differences, so you're jumping the gun.

You literally just said that the research is inconclusive. So yeah, we are all the same.

Each race has the same potential for intellectual ability. Being raised in different parts of the world only affects the knowledge gained from that society. It does not mean those people are incapable of learning on the same level as other races and in other environments.

GG I'm out.
 

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You really think being a plain white guilter is worse than being a member of something like KKK? If so i feel sorry but i did not get this reply.
Yes, a thousand time over yes. I'd rather die than be anything close to these people.
You literally just said that the research is inconclusive. So yeah, we are all the same.

Each race has the same potential for intellectual ability. Being raised in different parts of the world only affects the knowledge gained from that society. It does not mean those people are incapable of learning on the same level as other races and in other environments.

GG I'm out.
Since when does lack of research make you right?


The obvious factors point to my race dominating the world but yeah we're all clearly equal said the dude who wants to give it all away
 

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The obvious factors point to my race dominating the world but yeah we're all clearly equal said the dude who wants to give it all away

But in The Bell Curve Asians kicked your race's butts in intelligence scores

Maybe things like intelligence in humans are highly variable and subjective depending on the test designs and therefore that's why it's not worth studying, since average intelligence variations at best, if actual rigid research existed would be maybe a 10-point range at most. Maybe your extreme desire to frame superiority in terms of biology starts from the false premise that biological differences could even possibly be significant enough to matter in aggregate.

There is zero remotely conclusive research that says such, except in the case of dimorphic traits such as differences in average male and female responses to the same stimuli. That's all you can hope for. And when women start outperforming men in certain areas, like education, your constructs of superiority fall apart. Situations can be reversed entirely based on how an environment advantages certain traits over others. Superiority is relative and those who cling to it are desperate.

Darwinism is obsolete in a world where we control nearly all aspects of the environment. Only a damn Neanderthal clings to the old definitions of being "fit." Because they're afraid of being left behind.

I threw you a bone with sexual dimorphism. With race you've got less than nothing.
 

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But in The Bell Curve Asians kicked your race's butts in intelligence scores

Maybe things like intelligence in humans are highly variable and subjective depending on the test designs and therefore that's why it's not worth studying, since average intelligence variations at best, if actual rigid research existed would be maybe a 10-point range at most. Maybe your extreme desire to frame superiority in terms of biology starts from the false premise that biological differences could even possibly be significant enough to matter in aggregate.

There is zero remotely conclusive research that says such, except in the case of dimorphic traits such as differences in average male and female responses to the same stimuli. That's all you can hope for. And when women start outperforming men in certain areas, like education, your constructs of superiority fall apart. Situations can be reversed entirely based on how an environment advantages certain traits over others. Superiority is relative and those who cling to it are desperate.

Darwinism is obsolete in a world where we control nearly all aspects of the environment. Only a damn Neanderthal clings to the old definitions of being "fit." Because they're afraid of being left behind.

I threw you a bone with sexual dimorphism. With race you've got less than nothing.

firstly you didn't throw me a bone, it's obvious information.

How can you say Asians kicked my butt in one sentence and that measures of intelligence are inaccurate in another?


You can't possibly know that only a ten point difference would occur(although IQ has been proven inherently flawed so points mean nothing) as the tests haven't been done.

You're right, It's actually highly likely that races that look different and grew in different environments would have the same intellectual capabilities.

Look at the White Nations dominating the world, must just be a coincidence
 
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How can you say Asians kicked my butt in one sentence and that measures of intelligence are inaccurate in another?

I was demonstrating the absurdity of it.


You can't possibly know that only a ten point difference would occur(although IQ has been proven inherently flawed so points mean nothing) as the tests haven't been done.

I can know that there is no study that has been able to show anything even remotely more extreme than this. And like I said, this is the best case scenario for your argument. In all likelihood, no one would even be able to prove like, a five point difference.

You're right, It's actually highly likely that races that look different and grew in different environments would have the same intellectual capabilities.

Look at the White Nations dominating the world, must just be a coincidence

There isn't a historian alive that would support this one-dimensional argument
 

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Since when does lack of research make you right?


The obvious factors point to my race dominating the world but yeah we're all clearly equal said the dude who wants to give it all away

Because the evidence to what you're saying is inconclusive. There is no evidence that says one race is intellectually superior than another by nature. Evidence thus far only shows that we all have the same potential to learn on the same level. Hurdurrrrr.


Nothing obvious about it, especially if you know history. You don't, which is not surprising. There were many other kingdoms and empires which were dominant powers of the world. You say it as if only white people had the strongest societies.

The Ottoman Empire was feared by all of Europe; kings and queens literally begged the Sultan Suleiman for his support.. The Chinese were virtually always considered a global power since even back in their first dynasty.

Then you have the Mongolians which conquered half the known world. The Persians, the Babylonians, Sumerians, Egyptians, Moguls, Mali, etc.

You're just denying that they even existed because you're blind to fact.
 
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Because the evidence to what you're saying is inconclusive. There is no evidence that says one race is intellectually superior than another by nature. Evidence thus far only shows that we all have the same potential to learn on the same level. Hurdurrrrr.


Nothing obvious about it, especially if you know history. You don't, which is not surprising. There were many other kingdoms and empires which were dominant powers of the world. You say it as if only white people had the strongest societies.

The Ottoman Empire was feared by all of Europe; kings and queens literally begged the Sultan Suleiman for his support.. The Chinese were virtually always considered a global power since even back in their first dynasty.

Then you have the Mongolians which conquered half the known world. The Persians, the Babylonians, Sumerians, Egyptians, Moguls, Mali, etc.

You're just denying that they even existed because you're blind to fact.

What was the last great Empire? The British Empire.

Ruling with stones and swords isn't impressive at all.

Why didn't the Natives develop any technology for as long as they stayed on one of the most environmentally prosperous continents?

Why is it that the Blacks and Mexicans didn't do any better in school after de-segregation?

Why is it that whites and asians do better in the same schools with the same teachers and same books?
 

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What was the last great Empire? The British Empire.

Ruling with stones and swords isn't impressive at all.

Why didn't the Natives develop any technology for as long as they stayed on one of the most environmentally prosperous continents?

Why is it that the Blacks and Mexicans didn't do any better in school after de-segregation?

Why is it that whites and asians do better in the same schools with the same teachers and same books?

1) How would the last great empire prove a certain race's superiority when every race had a great and powerful empire?

2) Yeah it's so unimpressive. Let me tell you. If you're making that argument then you better take Rome out of the equation.

3) Because they didn't need to? Also Europe, Asia, and Africa were all close to each other and had interactions with all other races/nations throughout history, which lead to trade and progression of technology. Where do you think Europeans got their gunpowder? China, which they used it originally for fireworks.

4) Because of how they lived in ghettos and were treated differently. Even Nixon's administration admitted that the war on drugs was a way to keep black people down. So you're argument is just full of holes when white people had the most advantages and comfortable lifestyle.

5) Same reason as my above statement. Asians aren't discriminated on the same level as Mexicans or blacks.


But I already know you're gonna post a video of Sowell about something vaguely relevant to what we're talking about and also deny that such inequality exists.
 
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1) How would the last great empire prove a certain race's superiority when every race had a great and powerful empire?

2) Yeah it's so unimpressive. Let me tell you. If you're making that argument then you better take Rome out of the equation.

3) Because they didn't need to? Also Europe, Asia, and Africa were all close to each other and had interactions with all other races/nations throughout history, which lead to trade and progression of technology. Where do you think Europeans got their gunpowder? China, which they used it originally for fireworks.

4) Because of how they lived in ghettos and were treated differently. Even Nixon's administration admitted that the war on drugs was a way to keep black people down. So you're argument is just full of holes when white people had the most advantages and comfortable lifestyle.

5) Same reason as my above statement. Asians aren't discriminated on the same level as Mexicans or blacks.


But I already know you're gonna post a video of Sowell about something vaguely relevant to what we're talking about and also deny that such inequality exists.

1. because the effects of it's empire are still in control of the world

2. yeah it's un-impressive

3. The natives didn't need the wheel? The didn't need domesticated animals? OR they weren't smart enough

4.
The black kid attending MIT is in the top 10% in math nationally, but in the bottom 10% in math at MIT. Explain that with your ghetto theory

5.[video=youtube;9ESlS2jrhXY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ESlS2jrhXY&nohtml5=False[/video]
this video shits on this idea.

and this speech


asians are an overachieving group no matter the disadvantages
 
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1. because the effects of it's empire are still in control of the world

2. yeah it's un-impressive

3. The natives didn't need the wheel? The didn't need domesticated animals? OR they weren't smart enough

4.
The black kid attending MIT is in the top 10% in math nationally, but in the bottom 10% in math at MIT. Explain that with your ghetto theory

5.[video=youtube;9ESlS2jrhXY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ESlS2jrhXY&nohtml5=False[/video]
this video shits on this idea.

Oh hey, you posted a video of Thomas Sowell which is vaguely relevant to what we're talking about! Just like I stated in my last comment. Man you're predictable.

1) Ok and the effects of other empires lead to the rise and fall of the british emprie. Your point?

2) I don't even know what to say to this. This is literally a childish statement of someone who is butthurt and can't think of a logical answer.

3) Natives did invent the wheel, they just used it for toys rather than practical applications. Europeans thought the world was flat and thought red-heads were witches, which they burned if they didn't drown. Were they stupid?

4) One person does not make a statistic.






Let me just end this argument by asking these questions.

1. Are you saying that you're smarter than every black person?

2. Are you saying that there are no black geniuses in the world?
 

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Oh hey, you posted a video of Thomas Sowell which is vaguely relevant to what we're talking about! Just like I stated in my last comment. Man you're predictable.

1) Ok and the effects of other empires lead to the rise and fall of the british emprie. Your point?

2) I don't even know what to say to this. This is literally a childish statement of someone who is butthurt and can't think of a logical answer.

3) Natives did invent the wheel, they just used it for toys rather than practical applications. Europeans thought the world was flat and thought red-heads were witches, which they burned if they didn't drown. Were they stupid?

4) One person does not make a statistic.






Let me just end this argument by asking these questions.

1. Are you saying that you're smarter than every black person?

2. Are you saying that there are no black geniuses in the world?

Natives didn't have the wheel in practice. Good for them they could make toys

4. it's not one person, it's black people

I am saying the average black person is less intelligent than the average white person.

I'm looking at people as groups, not individuals. Group trends are just as important as individual people. They give us pictures you can't see up close and you tend to ignore
 

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Natives didn't have the wheel in practice. Good for them they could make toys

4. it's not one person, it's black people

I am saying the average black person is less intelligent than the average white person.

I'm looking at people as groups, not individuals. Group trends are just as important as individual people. They give us pictures you can't see up close and you tend to ignore

And not you're not looking at anything else, such as the inequalities and the discrimination the races face. There's always someone that manages to beat the odds, but on average, the groups of people are still kept down by our society which is more favorable to white people.

The irony in all of your arguments is you argue a very simple, clear cut, and dry scenario which puts your race above the other races but when someone argues against it, you then defer to using more complicate factors in the scenario in order to stall the argument.

Well the thing is, intelligence is not easily quantified of an individual, let alone of an entire race throughout all of history. There are insurmountable obstacles and factors which make the argument for a race's mental superiority anything but simple. It is complicated beyond human comprehension.





But the fact remains. Each race is capable of individual thought. Each race can produce geniuses. Each race had great empires. Each race is human and should be treated equally.

There is literally no valid reason as to why people should be treated less than others simply because of a few differences.
 

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And not you're not looking at anything else, such as the inequalities and the discrimination the races face. There's always someone that manages to beat the odds, but on average, the groups of people are still kept down by our society which is more favorable to white people.

The irony in all of your arguments is you argue a very simple, clear cut, and dry scenario which puts your race above the other races but when someone argues against it, you then defer to using more complicate factors in the scenario in order to stall the argument.

Well the thing is, intelligence is not easily quantified of an individual, let alone of an entire race throughout all of history. There are insurmountable obstacles and factors which make the argument for a race's mental superiority anything but simple. It is complicated beyond human comprehension.





But the fact remains. Each race is capable of individual thought. Each race can produce geniuses. Each race had great empires. Each race is human and should be treated equally.

There is literally no valid reason as to why people should be treated less than others simply because of a few differences.

What discrimination makes black students do badly at MIT? Don't worry ill wait
 

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What discrimination makes black students do badly at MIT? Don't worry ill wait

Ok, what is your theory then? Black people are just incapable of learning at the same level as white people because they are naturally more stupid?

Why is that black people in the UK fair much better than black people in the U.S.? Yeah, I'm sure discrimination has nothing to do with it.
 
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Am sawries butt Iamz guna hav to ubject. Accordin 2 SlimShady, itz a scientifk fax dat the Chinise ppls is born wit th3 smartz jeans

But will the real SLimshady pls stand up?
 
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