EMS Madara and Tobirama on same level

[KingHashirama]

Now I'm positive Tobirama and Madara were on the same level before. I love how Tobirama is making himself the main enemy of Madara. xD. But anyways yea I believe they were on the same level.


I mean why the hell would a HOKAGE say something like this:

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If he knows he is inferior. But I think this is just a reference to him being on Ems Madara's level.



Not saying they were equals .. but saying everytime they fought Madara didn't have 100% chance of winning more like a 50/50 .. Tobirama was probably inferior a little but still on the SAME LEVEL.

Now before Madara fans or anyone else starts mentioning the VOTE fight... I would like to remind you Madara used a Bijuu that was not part of his own power. EMS Madara doesn't have the 9-tails. But yea ;]


Anyone share the same feelings or is it just me?

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

I didn't read, and I don't have to. Madara would kick his ass, any day. I know all this recent hokage hype is exiting for some people on here, but lets not forget the facts. Madara will take his ass to school.

 

[RaitonOniKairRasengan]

Disagree lol. Why is tobirama his equal if hashirama was the only one who could fight him? Theres a reason madara was the head of the uchiha before leaving, and tobirama wouldnt have been until after hashi somehow died.

 

[Fighter2011]

You are one of the worst hashirama fanboys/madara haters in the base. Madara would rape him anyday. Gtfo and troll elsewhere please.

 

[hashy]

Now I'm positive Tobirama and Madara were on the same level before. I love how Tobirama is making himself the main enemy of Madara. xD. But anyways yea I believe they were on the same level.


I mean why the hell would a HOKAGE say something like this:

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If he knows he is inferior. But I think this is just a reference to him being on Ems Madara's level.



Not saying they were equals .. but saying everytime they fought Madara didn't have 100% chance of winning more like a 50/50 .. Tobirama was probably inferior a little but still on the SAME LEVEL.

Now before Madara fans or anyone else starts mentioning the VOTE fight... I would like to remind you Madara used a Bijuu that was not part of his own power. EMS Madara doesn't have the 9-tails. But yea ;]


Anyone share the same feelings or is it just me?

Because in the last fight they had Hashirama beat up Madara and Tobirama said to Hashirama I will finish him off for you but Hashirama wouldn't allow it.

 

[S A G E]

I totally Agree.
Tobirama is a realist, he wouldn't make such claims unless he actually stand a chance to at least MS Madara.

 

[KingHashirama]

I didn't read, and I don't have to. Madara would kick his ass, any day. I know all this recent hokage hype is exiting for some people on here, but lets not forget the facts. Madara will take his ass to school.

Joke?? Ems Madara's strongest technique = Perfect Susano'o.... Which can be countered by a FTG.
In chakra levels Tobirama as a top tier Senju is superior.

So how the hell would Madara take his ass to school?

 

[Fck]

It means that he is eager to fight with big baddy. How could you come to such conlusion with just one sentence? I mean just wait for another week, this assumption is kinda biased.

 

[Badapdos]

Disagree lol. Why is tobirama his equal if hashirama was the only one who could fight him? Theres a reason madara was the head of the uchiha before leaving, and tobirama wouldnt have been until after hashi somehow died.

This^^^^^
Also, I kinda agree but he is only, equal With Madaras MS.
Maybe not even that he might hold his on, but die.

 

[YellowFang]

Yeah, I believe from that statement that Tobirama also can fight Madara on nearly equal grounds... but that's the one Madara with EMS

 

[S A G E]

Disagree lol. Why is tobirama his equal if hashirama was the only one who could fight him? Theres a reason madara was the head of the uchiha before leaving, and tobirama wouldnt have been until after hashi somehow died.

Because Hashirama always say to Tobirama to get his hands off his darling Madara.
He respects his older brother, so he abided.

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

Joke?? Ems Madara's strongest technique = Perfect Susano'o.... Which can be countered by a FTG.
In chakra levels Tobirama as a top tier Senju is superior.

So how the hell would Madara take his ass to school?

We still haven't seen him properly use his S/T technique, and how the heck is he countering PS with FTG? So Minato > Madara?

Kiba also said: "Hey Naruto, hold off Madara until I get there". Kiba > Madara?

People, wake up. Madara would whoop him. There's a reason Hashirama was fighting Madara, and there's a reason why they're heads of their clans.

 

[KingHashirama]

You are one of the worst hashirama fanboys/madara haters in the base. Madara would rape him anyday. Gtfo and troll elsewhere please.

? Why are you spamming on my thread?

And apparently I have defended Madara countless times... And supported Naruto more then Hashirama

Disagree lol. Why is tobirama his equal if hashirama was the only one who could fight him? Theres a reason madara was the head of the uchiha before leaving, and tobirama wouldnt have been until after hashi somehow died.

Hashirama was FAR superior to Ems Madara, so you really can't compare Madara being the Head to Hashirama..... If Hashirama had been dead Tobirama was the next automatic pick as their leader, not only as a Hokage but even as a Senju leader.

Because in the last fight they had Hashirama beat up Madara and Tobirama said to Hashirama I will finish him off for you but Hashirama wouldn't allow it.

But we don't know how that fight went off. But I can see what you mean v-v. I would hate it if that is the case

I totally Agree.
Tobirama is a realist, he wouldn't make such claims unless he actually stand a chance to at least MS Madara.

Exactly. Plus he became Hokage AFTER Madara and Hashirama died. So he probably got stronger later on you know

We still haven't seen him properly use his S/T technique, and how the heck is he countering PS with FTG? So Minato > Madara?

Kiba also said: "Hey Naruto, hold off Madara until I get there". Kiba > Madara?

People, wake up. Madara would whoop him. There's a reason Hashirama was fighting Madara, and there's a reason why they're heads of their clans.

But he used it the same way Minato did just in this current chapter .. Minato used it on Hiruzen, Tobirama used it on Hashirama.

Also, I said he can COUNTER PS with FTG.. I never said its a 100% chance.. I gave you something he can use.. And I already stated in my thread, Tobirama maybe little inferior but still on the Same LEVEL.

Kiba was going to go help Naruto.....so i don't see your point...lol.

And when you compared EMS MAdara to Hashirama as equals you lost your argument.

Hashirama = Guy who was picked as leader by the Fire country itself and the ALL the people of the village.

Technically Tobirama was Madara's enemy, but Hashirama ended up fighting him .

 

[Strict]

Madara is clearly above Tobirama's level, it was implied by multiple sources that Hashirama is the only one who can stop him. Tobirama just acts as if it was his duty to stop him.

 

[KcMSean]

yea, madara, Izuna, hashirama and tobirama were probably all pretty close to each other. I think assuming Madara would beat his ass is an unsupported assumption. They were all the strongest of their clans so its pretty safe to assume there differences werent all that great.

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

By the way, EMS Madara has Kyuubi as a contract. How is Tobirama getting round that? Lmao, Madara stomps him.

 

[Touken]

My opinion which I posted on another thread:

I kinda believe Tobirama > Madara (before he got Senju DNA which means no Rinnegan/Mokuton) as it was established Izuna = Madara and Tobirama > Izuna which then in turn means, Tobirama > Madara. He also said something along the lines of 'Hashirama, I don't know about you but I'm heading out to the battlefield to stop Madara', which shows he believed he could beat Madara and with that much confidence, I also believe he could. Now he can't due to insane power-ups for Madara such as Rinnegan and Wood Style but Tobirama is unaware of what Madara's gained.

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

*waiting for Derp to post King Hashirama theme song*

 

[RaitonOniKairRasengan]

Because Hashirama always say to Tobirama to get his hands off his darling Madara.
He respects his older brother, so he abided.

Older brother has nothing to do with it.

Having a bijuu is your own power because it takes power to control it. And who else could control the bijuus besides hashirama? An uchiha. Thats another reason why hashirama was fighting madara and not tobirama

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

Tobirama can learn a lesson or two from Madara Uchiha on becoming one of the strongest ninjas.