Edo Itachi vs SM Kabuto

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Eye goes white .

Credits to Excite for the find though.
Nope. Stop trolling. Using Kishimoto's mistakes as evidence doesn't help you here. Especially when I've posted the scan where it is shown that his eye goes white. Pretty sure you don't even read the replies made to you anymore. Instead you ignore it and post whatever you feel like posting. Smh.

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Either it's a mistake, or his eye is white because he was cut in half as an Edo Tensei. Either way, you are wrong. And please don't try and switch the subject into which of the bold it is.
 

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Nope. Stop trolling. Using Kishimoto's mistakes as evidence doesn't help you here. Especially when I've posted the scan where it is shown that his eye goes white. Pretty sure you don't even read the replies made to you anymore. Instead you ignore it and post whatever you feel like posting. Smh.

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Either it's a mistake, or his eye is white because he was cut in half as an Edo Tensei. Either way, you are wrong. And please don't try and switch the subject into which of the bold it is.
Its Kishimoto's mistake, no way you can be wrong.

Come on now. Lets just move on then.
 
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Its Kishimoto's mistake, no way you can be wrong. Come on now.
Lol are you kidding me? I literally crop a panel of Itachi's eye going white after he's regenerated with the SFX, Zoom and everything, and you are still replying with this BS? What's worse is that due to you having no counter to the post, you do what I knew you'd do and decided to focus on an irrelevant possibility as the possibility doesn't change the facts that have already happened.

Then there's the fact that I said it could be either or. Smh. Paws if you are going to waste my time please stop replying. Posters with the inability to read have derailed this thread long enough.
 

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Lol are you kidding me? I literally crop a panel of Itachi's eye going white after he's regenerated with the SFX, Zoom and everything, and you are still replying with this BS? What's worse is that due to you having no counter to the post, you do what I knew you'd do and decided to focus on an irrelevant possibility as the possibility doesn't change the facts that have already happened.

Then there's the fact that I said it could be either or. Smh. Paws if you are going to waste my time please stop replying. Posters with the inability to read have derailed this thread long enough.
Lol at the fact that Kishimoto has to be the one to make the mistake instead of you just being wrong.
 

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Lol at the fact that Kishimoto has to be the one to make the mistake instead of you being wrong.
No, I never said that he had to have made a mistake. I said that it could be a mistake, or it could be an affect of Edo Tensei. And even if I did, it's based on Kishimoto himself drawing Itachi with BOTH eyes and him showing Itachi's eye turning white. Don't try and act like I'm claiming that he made a mistake based on literally nothing at all. Lol and you wonder why you lost in the tourney. Probably because instead of countering the opposition's posts you got hung up on irrelevant details, though that is probably because you couldn't counter the opposition's post.

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Stop acting like you are some retard because I'm pretty sure that not even you are this stupid. What is shown in the panel above me? Answer the question.
 

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How don't they match up? is where the loop was closed. After he was cut in half. From here on out, Kabuto is stuck in the loop. Everything before that was just him setting up Izanami.

Not even 100% sure how you came to the conclusion that the snake skin and Sasuke's sword absolutely have to be in the same exact spot for this to make sense. Regardless, at the end of the day, we have a very clear explanation that is not refutable unless you want to say that Itachi lied to us.

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First you make movement A, then you replicate movement A as A'. How would Izanami activate on the first movement when A' movement has been made? His diagram and explanation make it clear that A and A' both have to be completed before a loop can be made, as A is the beginning and A' is the end of the loop, then it resets from there.


On a side note, when will Draegod hop off my nuts? The shtick is getting pretty old. Manchild stays crying about me over an internet forum when he preaches "it's not that serious" to everyone and anyone who ironically doesn't take it as serious as he does. Biggest fan I tell you. Probably has some homo erotic obsession with a dude he doesn't even know, since my name always seems to be in his mouth, or posts rather. And he also agrees with the most incorrect posts despite his claim of "memorizing the entire Manga".
I'm not saying it doesn't take steps i just think he started really early in the fight this is the spot i truthly believe it began at.
He's claiming it's already prepared then the panel states the kinjutsu is release.
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Because here you can see the light in Itachi Sharingan it's gone.
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but here it regain it's light Izanami must of happened already.
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I think Kishimoto must have been rushing this with Itachi when it came to the kabuto fight because Izanami as a justu didn't make sense to begin with, to punish someone who's already lost a eye by losing your own eye doesn't make sense you told when Itachi began the process but doesn't mention were it ends that really brings the confusion.
 

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Lmao This shit is hilarious! I don't care for Susanoo clones when Itachi cannot even use MS (ama/Tsuku) with just 30%. So even if a Clone were to attempt Susanoo past Rib cage that'll be all the chakra and they'll go poof!

Kabuto Mid diffs max (me being generous) no matter what imaginary no feats you wanna Give Itachi. It's funny that they think Susanoo is his only hop when it is useless just like all of itachi's jutsu Bar Izanami! 100% of Itachi arsenal is countered no matter what the intel is.
 

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No, I never said that he had to have made a mistake. I said that it could be a mistake, or it could be an affect of Edo Tensei. And even if I did, it's based on Kishimoto himself drawing Itachi with BOTH eyes and him showing Itachi's eye turning white. Don't try and act like I'm claiming that he made a mistake based on literally nothing at all. Lol and you wonder why you lost in the tourney. Probably because instead of countering the opposition's posts you got hung up on irrelevant details, though that is probably because you couldn't counter the opposition's post.

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Stop acting like you are some retard because I'm pretty sure that not even you are this stupid. What is shown in the panel above me? Answer the question.
I guess I deserve this, I attack you and you attack fine but lets just leave it at that.
 

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I'm not saying it doesn't take steps i just think he started really early in the fight this is the spot i truthly believe it began at.
He's claiming it's already prepared then the panel states the kinjutsu is release.
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Because here you can see the light in Itachi Sharingan it's gone.
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but here it regain it's light Izanami must of happened already.
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I think Kishimoto must have been rushing this with Itachi when it came to the kabuto fight because Izanami as a justu didn't make sense to begin with, to punish someone who's already lost a eye by losing your own eye doesn't make sense you told when Itachi began the process but doesn't mention were it ends that really brings the confusion.
Did he start preparing it? Yes. I agree 1000% on that fact. But was Kabuto himself dragged into the loop at 580? Nope. It's impossible. Go read my reply to PawsX/RedRobin. What you are showing me clearly isn't Itachi's eye going white because of Izanami when his eye is shown going white a page later. He's drawn Kakashi's Sharingan the same exact way, and people were running around here saying he went blind until the next chapter where Kishimoto drew it again. Though I hope you don't go "RedRobin" on me here when I suggest that Kishimoto messed up somehow.


How can you even begin to claim that it started here?


1. Itachi states otherwise.
2. Itachi's diagram and explanation confirm that the preparation started when Kabuto stabbed him the first time, and ended when he got stabbed the second time. Everything else is in between and is the content for the loop.

Izanami already being cast in it's entirety wouldn't explain why Itachi's eye went white. How does that even make sense?

Itachi stated that he started it at A, and that it ended at A'

I guess I deserve this, I attack you and you attack fine but lets just leave it at that.
I'm seriously baffled here. I know you aren't this dumb so why are you acting like it? Why do you keep avoiding the question as if answering it will cause your PC to explode or something? The only logical answer is that you know you are wrong but don't want to admit that you are wrong because I mocked you. :lol Only logical explanation.

And we still have Draegod lurking in the cut throwing as much shade as he possibly can. Lmfao. Females these days.
 
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Itachi using Susanoo clones are a joke. Kage bushin divides the user chakra into how many clones they use. It's cannon that Susanoo bushins are extremely weak compared to the original users Susanoo which would mean that even if his Kage bushins could use Susanoo it would be extremely weak due to his low chakra and stamina reserves.
 

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Lol at the fact that Kishimoto has to be the one to make the mistake instead of you just being wrong.
LMAO KG be grasping at twizzlers f*ck straws.
Lol, please elaborate. I'm pretty sure we discussed this before and you agreed it could go either way.
The Itachi wank is extremely strong in this one.
 

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Now YD wants to join Draegod in the dickriding session huh?

Itachi using Susanoo clones are a joke. Kage bushin divides the user chakra into how many clones they use. It's cannon that Susanoo bushins are extremely weak compared to the original users Susanoo which would mean that even if his Kage bushins could use Susanoo it would be extremely weak due to his low chakra and stamina reserves.
1. It's canon that Madara's clones were far far weaker because he split his power between 25 clones. Would it be weaker? Possibly. To the extent you are implying? No.

2. If Itachi can use a V4 Susanoo on his deathbed, then he can use a Ribcage Susanoo with half his chakra.

3. As others have said they aren't needed to win.

4. Itachi having low chakra reserves is probably one of the dumbest things you could muster up when he had the chakra to use Amaterasu multiple times, use Tsukuyomi and then use the highest level of Susanoo while near his death. The funny thing is that Sasuke ran out of chakra while he didn't.
 

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Now YD wants to join Draegod in the dickriding session huh?



1. It's canon that Madara's clones were far far weaker because he split his power between 25 clones. Would it be weaker? Possibly. To the extent you are implying? No.

2. If Itachi can use a V4 Susanoo on his deathbed, then he can use a Ribcage Susanoo with half his chakra.

3. As others have said they aren't needed to win.

4. Itachi having low chakra reserves is probably one of the dumbest things you could muster up when he had the chakra to use Amaterasu multiple times, use Tsukuyomi and then use the highest level of Susanoo while near his death. The funny thing is that Sasuke ran out of chakra while he didn't.
Lol I have time to shit on any argument you have for itachi. I'm really trying to not laugh at the bs I know you'll say.
 

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Just laughing @ how dumb your making yourself look but i know you'll admit Itachi would get spanked later on in another thread.
That's what he does and what he always do. He has too much pride to simply concede so he'll concede in another thread just like Unorthodox made him do on multiple occasions that he'll never admit to.

But that's what you have with internet thugs, they talk so much they really believe they are somebody in real life even though they live on an anime site. lol
 

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Just laughing @ how dumb your making yourself look but i know you'll admit Itachi would get spanked later on in another thread.
Yet not a single soul on this thread can counter my arguments. You and the other female only have weak jabs while RedRobin has resorted to ignoring my posts because he doesn't want to admit he's wrong. I don't even mess with Meek Mill, but he was right when he said this:

Niggas turning into hoes.

Cry me a river females. Cry me a river.

Lol I have time to shit on any argument you have for itachi. I'm really trying to not laugh at the bs I know you'll say.
Lmfao. Fuck outta here son. Why would I waste time arguing with you when all you will do is deny Manga fact after Manga fact and then bail as if you were right the whole time. You've consistently done this time and time again.
You know what they say, learn from your mistakes. If FT, Beans or anyone else wants to waste their time on someone who can't read the Manga even if his life depended on it, then they can go right ahead. I've realized that the best you can do is:

-Cry about my friends.
-Lie about what really happens.
-Sneak diss.

:lol What a bitch. The most ironic part is how you cry about people being obsessed with NB, yet you consistently cry about me and other members like we killed your cat or something. Grow up.
 
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Its been a while that I haven't seem a thread that wasn't about Naruto vs Sasuke reach 7 pages... :lol
And with two of my favorite characters... Keep going guys!
 
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1. It's canon that Madara's clones were far far weaker because he split his power between 25 clones. Would it be weaker? Possibly. To the extent you are implying? No.

2. If Itachi can use a V4 Susanoo on his deathbed, then he can use a Ribcage Susanoo with half his chakra.

3. As others have said they aren't needed to win.
Elaborate on how much weaker did i imply the clones would be? There's no possibly they will be weaker without any reasonable doubt. Itachi chakra reserves are poor so him spliting them in half will be far worst then what your trying to put out. YEs he can use a clone with a rib-cage bushin but it'll get washed away just like how he did Sasuke so that isn't helping your argument.

4. Itachi having low chakra reserves is probably one of the dumbest things you could muster up when he had the chakra to use Amaterasu multiple times, use Tsukuyomi and then use the highest level of Susanoo while near his death. The funny thing is that Sasuke ran out of chakra while he didn't.
Itachi having low chakra reserves is a good point to make when talking about clones. Sasuke running out of chakra isn't approal on your argument when it simple justifies that CM2 is more taxing on the body than MS techs but none of this still changes the fact that Edo Itachi loses.
 

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Wait so it halts the opponent's moves and restrains them? Sounds like it just restrains them. Anyways, stop grasping at straws because you are avoiding the main point of this debate; he can't control the opponent meaning it won't make the clones go poof just like Naruto's clones didn't go poof. My god.


How are you going to say it doesn't only restrain them, and then link us to a scan that say's it pretty much only restrains them, Lol. It first halts their movements, meaning it stops them right there in their tracks. Then restrains them in that position. No where in the manga or databook, does it say anything about the capability of controlling the targets movements.


I personally don't think this jutsu is even relevant though. Highly doubt Itachi will fall to it twice.


And Lord...EjBlack strikes again with the piss poor logic. Now Genjutsu cancels shadow clones? Boy. :|
Lets use some common sense here. The context clearly talks about two things thats being stop from the opponents. Its makes zero sense mentioning it twice.

What Tayuya states is exactly how I am interpreting it.

Tayuya uses genjutsu and Shikmmaru jutsu starts receding [ ]

Kabuto uses again Uchiha brothers and their Susanoo starts receding.

Lets be serious here. The same way Kabuto can make Susanoo removed under genjutsu is the same way he can make Itachi do for Clones
 
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