Edo Itachi vs SM Kabuto

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Not sure how anyone can honestly claim Izanami started there when we have:

-A Scan of Itachi's eye going white on the second time he got stabbed by Kabuto.
-A Scan of Itachi blatantly stating that Izanami requires him to make action A, and then replicate it as A' to drag the opponent into a loop.
 
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Not sure how anyone can honestly claim Izanami started there when we have:

-A Scan of Itachi's eye going white on the second time he got stabbed by Kabuto.
-A Scan of Itachi blatantly stating that Izanami requires him to make action A, and then replicate it as A' to drag the opponent into a loop.
But its already started. Itachi has already put Kabuto's senses in a genjustu when he first activated the loop.
 

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"When did you cast it"

"That first time Kabuto stabbed me"

Kabuto was Inzanami at that point.

Itachi states Inzanami is an ocular justu which affects all the senses.
Itachi casted the genjutsu, as in recorded the event "A" the first time Kabuto stabbed him. He recorded other events up until Kabuto was actually put in izanami, which is the second time he got stabbed. Explain to me then why Itachi's eye only went white the second time Kabuto got stabbed? I'm tired of you just straight up ignoring my evidence.

What's astonishing is you actually think, that Kabuto using sound 4 techniques on them...cutting Itachi in half...having a philosophical discussion with Itachi about knowing oneself...countering Sasuke's katon with suiton...you think that in ALL those chapters, Kabuto was just in izanami the whole freaking time?
 

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Not sure how anyone can honestly claim Izanami started there when we have:

-A Scan of Itachi's eye going white on the second time he got stabbed by Kabuto.
-A Scan of Itachi blatantly stating that Izanami requires him to make action A, and then replicate it as A' to drag the opponent into a loop.
It's because the Chain of events really doesn't match up if he started it when kabuto sliced him in half sasuke clearly picked up his sword early he would have stilled had it but didn't, even if that was a real the snake skin isn't in sight that's what i believe.
 
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Read the top right panel. I have nothing more to say. Accept your lose and move on.
Lmao that will never happen they think there too "good" and want to protect there naruto internet rep. What will happen is kg will switch his words and opinion In a future thread pretending as if he stated such since day one. Bac2 will just simply not cave in period no matter what you or Kishi says. It's funny tbh. What's even more funny is that a true itachi fan (FT) states susannoo clones aren't needed because even he knows that's a bunch of bs. Yet they think his only hope is imaginary susannoo clones. Lmao

It's a reason why this site been died. Kudos though for proving them wrong and standing your ground, soon they'll attempt to hang up with there followers to attempt to intimidate you to just stop replying.
 

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Lmao that will never happen they think there too "good" and want to protect there naruto internet rep. What will happen is kg will switch his words and opinion In a future thread pretending as if he stated such since day one. Bac2 will just simply not cave in period no matter what you or Kishi says. It's funny tbh. What's even more funny is that a true itachi fan (FT) states susannoo clones aren't needed because even he knows that's a bunch of bs. Yet they think his only hope is imaginary susannoo clones. Lmao

It's a reason why this site been died. Kudos though for proving them wrong and standing your ground, soon they'll attempt to hang up with there followers to attempt to intimidate you to just stop replying.
"it's not that serious my guy"
 

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Lmao that will never happen they think there too "good" and want to protect there naruto internet rep. What will happen is kg will switch his words and opinion In a future thread pretending as if he stated such since day one. Bac2 will just simply not cave in period no matter what you or Kishi says. It's funny tbh. What's even more funny is that a true itachi fan (FT) states susannoo clones aren't needed because even he knows that's a bunch of bs. Yet they think his only hope is imaginary susannoo clones. Lmao

It's a reason why this site been died. Kudos though for proving them wrong and standing your ground, soon they'll attempt to hang up with there followers to attempt to intimidate you to just stop replying.
#Savage

Drae why you so savage?
 

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It's because the Chain of events really doesn't match up if he started it when kabuto sliced him in half sasuke clearly picked up his sword early he would have stilled had it but didn't, even if that was a real the snake skin isn't in sight that's what i believe.
You just wrecked KG's point.
 

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It's because the Chain of events really doesn't match up if he started it when kabuto sliced him in half sasuke clearly picked up his sword early he would have stilled had it but didn't, even if that was a real the snake skin isn't in sight that's what i believe.
How don't they match up? is where the loop was closed. After he was cut in half. From here on out, Kabuto is stuck in the loop. Everything before that was just him setting up Izanami.

Not even 100% sure how you came to the conclusion that the snake skin and Sasuke's sword absolutely have to be in the same exact spot for this to make sense. Regardless, at the end of the day, we have a very clear explanation that is not refutable unless you want to say that Itachi lied to us.

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First you make movement A, then you replicate movement A as A'. How would Izanami activate on the first movement when A' movement has been made? His diagram and explanation make it clear that A and A' both have to be completed before a loop can be made, as A is the beginning and A' is the end of the loop, then it resets from there.


On a side note, when will Draegod hop off my nuts? The shtick is getting pretty old. Manchild stays crying about me over an internet forum when he preaches "it's not that serious" to everyone and anyone who ironically doesn't take it as serious as he does. Biggest fan I tell you. Probably has some homo erotic obsession with a dude he doesn't even know, since my name always seems to be in his mouth, or posts rather. And he also agrees with the most incorrect posts despite his claim of "memorizing the entire Manga".
 
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This guy.. Izanami was cast as in the initiation of the steps had begun. The Genjutsu only starts once the steps are finished. Also, [ ] implies that he physically saw the crows scattering since they were a part of what he recorded being seen. But they wouldn't be seen had they been Genjutsu, they'd be exclusively seen by Kabuto. YET they were a part of the things he recorded being seen with his eye. Inb4 you get me some other bullshit explanation as to why he was already in Genjutsu before Itachi's eye went white.
 

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Inzanami was closed as shown before Kabuto .
 

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Then we have Kabuto's horns. In 580 his horn was cut. If the loop really began then please tell me why in the real world too? If what you people were saying was correct, then Kabuto's horn should be intact in the real world since he was caught in the loop from the first stab onward, including when Itachi cut his horn.

:lol Face it. If you think Izanami began with the first strike despite:

-The horns.
-The eye going blank.
-And Itachi's statement that explains how Izanami works, which also states that you need two movements.

You are ignoring the Manga and are 100% wrong.
 

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Inzanami was closed as shown before Kabuto stabs Itachi a second time.
:lol Read what Itachi is saying before you reply. Izanami can only open and close at the same movement. Unless you think that is the same as Itachi getting stabbed by Kabuto, then you are wrong.


Kabuto stabs him there and his eye goes white there. Period.
 

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:lol Read what Itachi is saying before you reply. Izanami can only open and close at the same movement. Unless you think that is the same as Itachi getting stabbed by Kabuto, then you are wrong.


Kabuto stabs him there and his eye goes white there. Period.
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Eye goes white . That is before the second stab by Kabuto.

Credits to Excite for the find though.
 
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