Durability and Endurance confusion

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KingHashirama;didnt read

i am gonna start using it

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[BenjerminGaye]

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KingHashirama;didnt read

i am gonna start using it

Go ahead.Be my guest.

 

[KingHashirama]

When people talk about durability they refer to the body as an object separate from mental endurance, I guess.
I agree with what you said though.

Thank you for being one of the view who was able to understand it, and didn't get on the offensive as if I was attacking them.

I think you are confusing endurance, endure, and durability. While endurance (noun) is the act, quality, or power of withstanding hardship or stress, to endure (verb) is the ability to carry on through, despite hardships. However, durability (adj.) is being capable of withstanding wear and tear or decay.

Endurance =/= endure =/= durability

Simply endurance is a noun; it does not describe the character. To endure is the character's ability to withstand, while durability is the description of the character's endurance.

Sorry, but give me an example of where i confused them.

And durability = noun

Durable = Adjective.

Durability requires to be durable

Just as Endurance requires to endure..

 

[Alfred Pennyworth]

Then you aren't talking about the person, you are talking about a specific part about the person. You can't say that character is durable. You can say his body is more durable, now that is also not true, when we don't know if their body can survive a specific disease that other's who don't have a hard body like them can..

Being Durable in a human sense is to keep going and still be standing. Hence why i stated it is used in sports all the time, as a replacement of the word endurance.

Also you seem to be believe feeling pain == the pain being actually there or the damage actually being there..



But here is the thing, how is that durability? If that person gets knocked out without even bleeding, how is he more durable? He wasn't even able to keep on fighting and standing.. he certainly isn't more durable.

Sorry but who told you endurance = only mental? Endurance is the combination of mentality and Stamina.

I admit i was wrong on endurance being only mental.....
But would it be ryt to say that his skin is more durable? the more durable the skin is , the less likely it will be cut off and bleed when subject to the same attack....

 

[KingHashirama]

I admit i was wrong on endurance being only mental.....
But would it be ryt to say that his skin is more durable? the more durable the skin is , the less likely it will be cut off and bleed when subject to the same attack....

Yea that would be more accurate. That the person has more durable skin. Since the skin itself is not a living thing. However, the problem with that has always been, what defines a durable skin? Able to withstand disease or attacks?

 

[Sir Blades]

Yea that would be more accurate. That the person has more durable skin. Since the skin itself is not a living thing. However, the problem with that has always been, what defines a durable skin? Able to withstand disease or attacks?

Skin is a living thing, did you not take Biology in school?
Here is why.
1. Its made of cells
2. It can grow
3. Develop
4. Responds to the environment

 

[BK 201]

This guy got so butthurt he started getting technical with trivial matters Lol typical King.

 

[KingHashirama]

Skin is a living thing, did you not take Biology in school?
Here is why.
1. Its made of cells
2. It can grow
3. Develop
4. Responds to the environment

Ah i should have made that more clear.

Cells = living things =/= humans

Cells = make up of humans.

Yes our cells are "living things" quote on quote. But are not the same as Human living things or the living things i am referring to. Though yes that is a good point, and in which i purposed the question what would make a skin more durable.. ability to withstand attacks or disease?

 

[assface3]

Butthurt OP is butthurt.

This is ridiculous...

 

[KingHashirama]

Butthurt OP is butthurt.

This is ridiculous...

Though would you not say you are butthurt, that you are wasting your time here, when you obviously have nothing to prove the factual statements made in the OP wrong..

But this is the typical comeback for morons (not saying you are one), who get hurt over someone making a thread they don't like. Its simple as ignoring it.

If you do not like something do not participate simply move on. This way we have less troll threads and complainers like you who fail to discuss without insulting.

 

[Conspirator.]

Who gives a shit about the definitions? All people are talking about is the ability to tank/withstand damage, and when it comes to that, there's few better than the 3rd Raikage or Kisame.(not using jutsus like healing, bijuus,susanoo etc)

 

[Sir Blades]

Ah i should have made that more clear.

I see you edited your post cause you knew i was right. You try to sound smart but in reality you simply blurt out trivialities with no substance. The skin is a living thing, its separate of the body, the cells in the skin duplicate and grow and keep producing only skin cells making it an a unique separate part of the human body. The skin itself is also considered and organ, but i will leave it at that considering that is too much for your brain to register.

That earth analogy was fallacious and of poor judgment considering the context of the discussion.

 

[Alfred Pennyworth]

I suppose i meant hardness or toughness.....and i now realize durability seems to be a broader concept..
Im still trying to understand wt u r trying to convey about durability.....
When u say ‘deterioration’ does it inc. both physical and mental? Since a person who has a durable body(tough,hard,healthy,highly immune to disease or virus) can collapse without physical damage , like when his will break down and lose consciousness......but then u implied a more durable person has to be more able to keep on standing and continue wt hes doing

 

[KingHashirama]

I see you edited your post cause you knew i was right. You try to sound smart but in reality you simply blurt out trivialities with no substance. The skin is a living thing, its separate of the body, the cells in the skin duplicate and grow and keep producing only skin cells making it an a unique separate part of the human body. The skin itself is also considered and organ, but i will leave it at that considering that is too much for your brain to register.

That earth analogy was fallacious and of poor judgment considering the context of the discussion.

And as i said it was a bad example. And i try to sound smart? clearly not seeing the grammar issues in my posts.. rofl.

Ah i should have made that more clear.

Cells = living things =/= humans

Cells = make up of humans.

Yes our cells are "living things" quote on quote. But are not the same as Human living things or the living things i am referring to. Though yes that is a good point, and in which i purposed the question what would make a skin more durable.. ability to withstand attacks or disease?

I suppose i meant hardness or toughness.....and i now realize durability seems to be a broader concept..
Im still trying to understand wt u r trying to convey about durability.....
When u say ‘deterioration’ does it inc. both physical and mental? Since a person who has a durable body(tough,hard,healthy,highly immune to disease or virus) can collapse without physical damage , like when his will break down and lose consciousness......but then u implied a more durable person has to be more able to keep on standing and continue wt hes doing

Oh thank you for asking mate.

What i'm trying to convey is that. Durability = Endurance, but applied to different things. However, the logic being applied to objects cannot 100% be applied to living things. We have more factors to it than non-living things. Such as you stated our mentality, the will to keep on going.

And yes toughness is the right word i was looking for to describe skin in the other post i made. Ah man, i got too hot headed. And if i insulted you i apologize bro.

And i'm trying to use the word Endurance , but then the people here are forcing me to use durable to explain. But i'm talking about endurance. We humans only have endurance, STamina + Mentality, hard skin is irrelevant, due to things like disease.

 

[Jcub]

The man is correct. There is a fundamental difference, durable is not the root of Endurance. Durable is the proper term for talking about non-people-like-objects.

en·dur·ance
enˈdo͝orəns/Submit
noun
noun: endurance
1.
the fact or power of enduring an unpleasant or difficult process or situation without giving way.
"she was close to the limit of her endurance"
synonyms: toleration, tolerance, sufferance, forbearance, patience, acceptance, resignation, stoicism More
stamina, staying power, fortitude, perseverance, persistence, tenacity, doggedness, grit, indefatigability, resolution, determination;
formalpertinacity
the capacity of something to last or to withstand wear and tear.
Origin

late 15th cent. (in the sense ‘continued existence, ability to last’; formerly also as indurance ): from Old French, from endurer ‘make hard’ (see endure).


du·ra·bil·i·ty
ˌdo͝orəˈbilitē/Submit
noun
noun: durability
1.
the ability to withstand wear, pressure, or damage.
"the reliability and durability of plastics"
synonyms: imperishability, durableness, longevity; More
antonyms: fragility

 

[-Punk-]

Fatalities everywhere.

 

[Mille Ignis]

Sorry, but give me an example of where i confused them.

And durability = noun

Durable = Adjective.

Durability requires to be durable

Just as Endurance requires to endure..

I agree that I did mess up on durability, so here is the correct definition: durability-permanence by virtue of the power to resist stress or force.

However, as you can see durability is the same as endurance. What I am curious about is why you think that durability can only be used to describe a non-living object where as endurance can only be used to describe a living thing. Words are not bound by the biological aspects of life. Yes, certain words maybe preferred when describing objects (non-living and living), but to set a categorical limitation on the way words should be used is just absurd. Really words should be used based on the context of the subject to present a clearer meaning as to what someone means to say, rather than be used based a category as trivial as non-living and living. (Yes I know it seems I may be contradicted myself on the last few sentences, but I could not think of a way to reword the sentence to prevent confusion. Hopefully you will understand the message I am trying to convey.)

Endurance = Durability

 

[KingHashirama]

The man is correct. There is a fundamental difference, durable is not the root of Endurance. Durable is the proper term for talking about non-people-like-objects.

en·dur·ance
enˈdo͝orəns/Submit
noun
noun: endurance
1.
the fact or power of enduring an unpleasant or difficult process or situation without giving way.
"she was close to the limit of her endurance"
synonyms: toleration, tolerance, sufferance, forbearance, patience, acceptance, resignation, stoicism More
stamina, staying power, fortitude, perseverance, persistence, tenacity, doggedness, grit, indefatigability, resolution, determination;
formalpertinacity
the capacity of something to last or to withstand wear and tear.
Origin

late 15th cent. (in the sense ‘continued existence, ability to last’; formerly also as indurance ): from Old French, from endurer ‘make hard’ (see endure).


du·ra·bil·i·ty
ˌdo͝orəˈbilitē/Submit
noun
noun: durability
1.
the ability to withstand wear, pressure, or damage.
"the reliability and durability of plastics"
synonyms: imperishability, durableness, longevity; More
antonyms: fragility

Ah that is the phrase i should have used "non-people like objects". Thank you for the elaboration.

I agree that I did mess up on durability, so here is the correct definition: durability-permanence by virtue of the power to resist stress or force.

However, as you can see durability is the same as endurance. What I am curious about is why you think that durability can only be used to describe a non-living object where as endurance can only be used to describe a living thing. Words are not bound by the biological aspects of life. Yes, certain words maybe preferred when describing objects (non-living and living), but to set a limitation on the way words should be used is just absurd. Really words should be used based on the context of the subject to present a clearer meaning as to what someone means to say, rather than be used based a category as trivial as non-living and living. (Yes I know it seems I may be contradicted myself on the last few sentences, but I could not think of a way to reword the sentence to prevent confusion. Hopefully you will understand the message I am trying to convey.)

Endurance=Durability

The man above shows the difference.

And example was provided in the OP, if you any other questions than feel free to ask i shall clarify on what i meant.

 

[VongolaX]

Oh yea, that is true, but they are also out of chakra, but then you have people like Kakashi with strong ass mentality who can bring forth a small ounce of chakra to use one last technique resulting in their deaht.

But i get what you mean now, thank you for explanation, before i got confused. =D

Thanks for the rep+

The thing with stamina is that it gives you the condition to preform the Justu.

You can have chakra, but when your body condition is low...

You can't preform Justus, or powerful ones.

Like the 8 gates is pure stamina and aura (sweat) with no chakra.

Gai or the glasses freak explained it after the chuunin exam match.

You need to balance a certain amount of stamina and chakra to make an effective Justu.

 

[Jcub]

Ah that is the phrase i should have used "non-people like objects". Thank you for the elaboration.

Eloquently put I know, lol all I could think of at the time.