Durability and Endurance confusion

[KingHashirama]

hmm, i have seen this around the base a lot. And people seem to use it without thinking about it.

Durability and Endurance are literally the same words. However, the difference is that they aren't applied to the samethings.

Edurance = the ability to deal with pain or suffering that continues for a long time (Living things)

Durability = able to exist for a long time without significant deterioration (non-living things)


When people use "durability" for characters , and someone argues against them with endurance it just causes a whole another confusion. There is no "durability" when it comes to characters. There is only ENDURANCE.

So for the misconception of "Raikage"/"Kisame" and others are the most "durable" characters.. uh no. They have high endurance and tough bodies.

Durability is just something sitting idly there, and having the ability to survive without much deterioration. Like a Durable metal. Because you must realize, that people like Hashirama/Tsunade/Nagato/Kabuto can take way more damage and still be standing than the Raikages and Kisame... So yea.. I mean simply look at Gai... The immense pain he is taking while he is still going at it, is it not more durable?


So yea i just wanted to clarify this, since i have seen arguments around this topic on here. And they were all the result of this misconception.​

 

[VongolaX]

Think durability goes under stamina...

 

[KingHashirama]

Think durability goes under stamina...

Durability doesn't apply to humans at all mate.. To humans its Endurance. If someone uses durability (sometimes they tend to do it in sports) it is always referring to endurance. They are changed sometimes. Stamina is part of Endurance, so stamina is the thing that goes under them.

 

[Waltz]

Durability can be applied to characters if the existence at hand is an extended combat situation and if deterioration refers that physical damage to the body and it's cells; as it biologically is applicable. ​

 

[Sir Blades]

Who da fuk cares lol

No one is going to care at what you have to say.

I can just look it up in a dictionary. Oh kinghash you never cease to amaze me.

 

[KingHashirama]

Durability can be applied to characters if the existence at hand is an extended combat situation and if deterioration refers that physical damage to the body and it's cells; as it biologically is applicable. ​

Sadly no. That would still be a reference to Endurance. Physical damage to the body is also under endurance.. When a football player gets smacked.. he need endure through that. Or when a boxer gets bloody, he need to endure through that. He has high endurance. Not high durability.

On top of that, you can't judge a living being's durability.. it is literally impossible..

But they are the same with the same meaning, but simply apply to different things. So you can say durability for a person, but you would only be referring to endurance. But people are trying to take into something else entirely.. which is not applicable.

Who da fuk cares lol

No one is going to care at what you have to say.

I can just look it up in a dictionary. Oh kinghash you never cease to amaze me.

Then tell the people who don't do so to do so. . I stated my point i really don't care if people listen..

And i'm sure people do read the dictionary and clearly get it confused.. yea.a..

 

[slaton02]

Seems like your calling me out for saying 3rd raikage was the most durable character(which he is). No one gives a poo about the durability /endurance context difference. People are referring to tanking damage simple as that.

 

[21 Savage]

Durability does not apply to humans only endurance applies. Only goods can be durable, humans portion to endurance where stamina and strength comes in

 

[KingHashirama]

Seems like your calling me out for saying 3rd raikage was the most durable character(which he is). No one gives a poo about the durability /endurance context difference. People are referring to tanking damage simple as that.

Son if you honestly believe you are some special angel, who is the only person that believes that.. then go use the search bar.

And if your statement has nothing to do with what is stated in this thread, no point talking about it.. since its obviously not a reference to you..

"tanking ability".. again Endurance. Nothing else. High endurance = high tanking ability.

 

[assface3]

Way I see it: durability is simply the ability to endure, while endurance is a more specific ability mostly associated with humans.

I don't know if this warranted a thread though.

 

[Waltz]

Huh?...

Did you forget that you're referring to Shinobi in the Naruto-Verse, who have the ability to produce Jutsu which could make the body itself durable; such as Doton: Dumo. ​

 

[KingHashirama]

Way I see it: durability is simply the ability to endure, while endurance is a more specific ability mostly associated with humans.

I don't know if this warranted a thread though.

Still better than half of the threads here. And clearly people still don't get what the difference is.. Even you don't.. Endurance = Durability.

They simply applied to different things.. However, people tend to use the word durability in an another way, and start rampaging on arguments to prove they are right. However, most durable in Naruto are those with Highest chakras, not with the hard bodies..(and they have high chakras also).

For example, who is more durable, someone who gets punched by a lv 1 punch and but no scratch. But then punched by lv 2 punch is knocked out. However, another person with lv 1 punch falls to floor and gets damaged, and then with lv 2 punched gets more damaged but is still standing? ..

Huh?...

Did you forget that you're referring to Shinobi in the Naruto-Verse, who have the ability to produce Jutsu which could make the body itself durable; such as Doton: Dumo. ​

No durability, that is called Hardening your body. You are a precise example of the failure to use the word correctly in its essence. Hard body =/= durability (Endurance).

Doton: Dumo hardens your skin.. nothing to do with your durability. There are people who can survive against disease but are weaker physically, but others who are stronger physically tend to die from disease, who is more durable?

Again in the end its all about Endurance.

Endurance (Durability to humans ) = Mentality + stamina

What you are referring to = having hard body..

You can have the toughest body, and still be the least durable guy on the field.

 

[VongolaX]

Durability doesn't apply to humans at all mate.. To humans its Endurance. If someone uses durability (sometimes they tend to do it in sports) it is always referring to endurance. They are changed sometimes. Stamina is part of Endurance, so stamina is the thing that goes under them.

In the manga, I meant the manga when they are physically beat.

They're out of stamina...

 

[slaton02]

Son if you honestly believe you are some special angel, who is the only person that believes that.. then go use the search bar.

And if your statement has nothing to do with what is stated in this thread, no point talking about it.. since its obviously not a reference to you..

"tanking ability".. again Endurance. Nothing else. High endurance = high tanking ability.

Sorry for thinking you made this thread after coming from a thread where I said exactly what you're trying to clear up. Question did you get the idea for this thread out of nowhere or did others on the raikage thread give you motivate.nvm idgaf really. Btw has anyone ever told you you're annoying?

 

[Sir Blades]

To those who dont agree, you are partially right.

They are interchangeable and they mean the same thing. But one is usually associated with things and the other with people. You are not completely wrong if you use one or the other, but remember that one fits a bit better with a certain context than the other. So no need to worry.

 

[~Sky~]

What ever works for you man, whatever works for you.

 

[KingHashirama]

In the manga, I meant the manga when they are physically beat.

They're out of stamina...

Oh yea, that is true, but they are also out of chakra, but then you have people like Kakashi with strong ass mentality who can bring forth a small ounce of chakra to use one last technique resulting in their deaht.

But i get what you mean now, thank you for explanation, before i got confused. =D

 

[The Necromancer]

Dude, durable is the root word of endurance. Why so butthurt over a definition?

With the time spent researching the definitions of similes, you probably could have found a counter to whatever debate made you so upset.

 

[assface3]

Still better than half of the threads here. And clearly people still don't get what the difference is.. Even you don't.. Endurance = Durability.

They simply applied to different things.. However, people tend to use the word durability in an another way, and start rampaging on arguments to prove they are right. However, most durable in Naruto are those with Highest chakras, not with the hard bodies..(and they have high chakras also).

For example, who is more durable, someone who gets punched by a lv 1 punch and but no scratch. But then punched by lv 2 punch is knocked out. However, another person with lv 1 punch falls to floor and gets damaged, and then with lv 2 punched gets more damaged but is still standing? ..

The question is: does it really matter? It can be used in the same context regardless; I say poTATEo, you say poTOTo.

The confusion is only slight, and, IMO, doesn't warrant much thought.

 

[Waltz]

Still better than half of the threads here. And clearly people still don't get what the difference is.. Even you don't.. Endurance = Durability.

They simply applied to different things.. However, people tend to use the word durability in an another way, and start rampaging on arguments to prove they are right. However, most durable in Naruto are those with Highest chakras, not with the hard bodies..(and they have high chakras also).

For example, who is more durable, someone who gets punched by a lv 1 punch and but no scratch. But then punched by lv 2 punch is knocked out. However, another person with lv 1 punch falls to floor and gets damaged, and then with lv 2 punched gets more damaged but is still standing? ..




No durability, that is called Hardening your body. You are a precise example of the failure to use the word correctly in its essence. Hard body =/= durability (Endurance).

Doton: Dumo hardens your skin.. nothing to do with your durability.
Again in the end its all about Endurance.

It cannot be endurance if the person encased in Dotonomu is unable to feel pain and suffering when they actually should; solely due to the mentioned Jutsu making their skin durable to what ever extent. It is an un-natural occurrence and biologically----'humanly' [for use of a more contextual word] impossible and only possible upon the body due to an external element: The jutsu itself; which can then be objectified. ​