[Discussion] Doflamingo vs Katakuri

[ToshiZO]

Katakuri mid diffs. Not only is he hard to hit he has great endurance as well. Doflamingo is beat in nearly every measurable category.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Katakuri mid diffs. Not only is he hard to hit he has great endurance as well. Doflamingo is beat in nearly every measurable category.

This page should have ended the debate, but of course you still have some people denying that Katakuri is stronger and that he performed better against G4.

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[-Akuma-]

Kata low difs Doffy.

 

[Punk Hazard]

This page should have ended the debate, but of course you still have some people denying that Katakuri is stronger and that he performed better against G4.

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1. The only thing this demonstrates is that Katakuri has a higher damage output than Doflamingo. Luffy also had a higher damage output than Doflamingo, but tell me, who was laying passed out on the floor and being helped by dozens of fighters and who was marching with their strongest offense ready to strike again?

2. We've seen Katakuri deal with G4 for a few moments. When blocking with a stronger defense than Doflamingo did, he was still sent flying from a Kong Gun the same way he did. When he got with Rhino Schneider, he was still sent flying the same way a half-dead Doflamingo did. There is still the fact that Doflamingo was able to fend off G4 for 20 whole minutes, something that's not happening with an ability that's far below G4.

 

[SixPathsMike101]

Katakuri, dont fap doffy

 

[HashiraMadara]

Katakuri mid diffs. Not only is he hard to hit he has great endurance as well. Doflamingo is beat in nearly every measurable category.

f#ck no! No one mid diffs Doffy Luffy has fought so far.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

It’s sad how morons are calling Dofy half dead before fighting luffy, like he didn’t just repair his organs right before the big fight. In order to be half dead you’ll need to be dying in the first place. The only person in the series that I can remember that was fighting half dead was Whitebeard. So to compare whitebeard’s condition to Dofy’s repaired tissue is just asinine.

And then getting sent half way across the island being compared being sent a few meters back is just pathetic. Especially when Dogtooth’s back didn’t even touch the floor unlike Dofy.

Like how stupid are people willing to go for that guy?

 

[Dannie]

-Thinks Crocodile can defeat Flamingo in a desert location
-Calls other people stupid in a Flamingo discussion thread

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[Rikudou Tobi]

-Thinks Doflamingo is admiral level and stronger than G4 luffy
-Patronizes people for sticking to Oda's words instead of his.

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[Punk Hazard]

-Thinks Doflamingo is admiral level and stronger than G4 luffy
-Patronizes people for sticking to Oda's words instead of his.

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lmao did Oda tell you Doffy couldn't put Haki on his threads?

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[Rikudou Tobi]

Oh look, now he thinks doflamingo has haki on his threads. What else is new.
Funny thing is that in no shape or form did Oda say Doflaimngo put haki on his threads either.

 

[ToshiZO]

Oh look, now he thinks doflamingo has haki on his threads. What else is new.
Funny thing is that in no shape or form did Oda say Doflaimngo put haki on his threads either.

You're either

1.Retarded
2.Trolling
3.Incredibly stubborn.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Oh look, now he thinks doflamingo has haki on his threads. What else is new.
Funny thing is that in no shape or form did Oda say Doflaimngo put haki on his threads either.

lmfaoo and what else is it?

 

[chopstickchakra]

The idea that you can't add haki to your DF is odd, how else would Logia's have battles with each other? Only use hand to hand combat where they can apply haki? That doesn't sound right. Aokiji for instance when fighting Akainu would add haki to pheasant beak before "shooting/throwing?" it or else what's the point?

As for Doffy's strings what else could it be besides Haki? It's fine if you want to refute but you need to provide an alternate theory, if it's not haki then what? It's not blood because we see it on strings before they touch Luffy so nothing else makes sense to me.

 

[Hellioncurse]

You're either

1.Retarded
2.Trolling
3.Incredibly stubborn.

I'll go with the first option. ;p

 

[Vandenre1ch]

You're either

1.Retarded
2.Trolling
3.Incredibly stubborn.

All 3. He's retarded cause he fried his own brain cells with his messed up opinions, became incredibly stubborn cause no likes being stupid like him and resorts to trolling to justify his posts and feel better about himself. So yeah, all 3(I hope he doesn't be predictable and replay with typical keyboard warrior rants about how dumb others are and how smart he is).

*shrugs*

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

1. The only thing this demonstrates is that Katakuri has a higher damage output than Doflamingo. Luffy also had a higher damage output than Doflamingo, but tell me, who was laying passed out on the floor and being helped by dozens of fighters and who was marching with their strongest offense ready to strike again?

2. We've seen Katakuri deal with G4 for a few moments. When blocking with a stronger defense than Doflamingo did, he was still sent flying from a Kong Gun the same way he did. When he got with Rhino Schneider, he was still sent flying the same way a half-dead Doflamingo did. There is still the fact that Doflamingo was able to fend off G4 for 20 whole minutes, something that's not happening with an ability that's far below G4.

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Oda was clearly trying to tell us that Luffy and Doffy were similar in health. I know that you're going to give me some overly-analytical response to make it look like Doffy took significantly more damage, but Oda put these lines there for a reason. Bellamy is obviously much weaker than Luffy, but someone much weaker than you can still do a lot of damage if you just let yourself become their punching bag for 10 mins. Besides, we already saw that Bellamy's 1st attack hurt Luffy, and Luffy one shotting Bellamy doesn't mean that Bellamy's attack power is shit since people like Cracker already proved that you could excel in one stat and be garbage in another stat (and Bellamy was already half dead at that point). Also, we don't know how much damage GK did since we don't know how quickly it takes effect and if it truly destroys all organs (though I doubt it does since Doffy's brain wasn't harmed). GK could instantly tear the person's organs to shreds, or it can "slowly" do so in a certain time frame (like a minute or so). The latter explanation would help to explain why Doffy's organs weren't destroyed again after he got knocked out by Luffy.

Katakuri almost making G4 Luffy's eyes turn white is clearly supposed to show that he isn't that far off from G4 Luffy, if not equal, which puts him above the likes of Cracker and Doflamingo (both could only stall G4 until it ran out of time). Doflamingo was sent down a mountain, while Katakuri was sent much less farther away, and Katakuri was able to stop himself from falling down after taking 3 G4 attacks, which he only took because he lost his composure.

Katakuri casually dodging strong G4 attacks, like Kong Organ, and sending G4 Luffy flying is clearly supposed to show that he's stronger than Doffy. This is just common sense.

 

[Punk Hazard]

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Oda was clearly trying to tell us that Luffy and Doffy were similar in health.

So you're really telling me that Bellamy did equal or greater damage to Luffy than Law did to Doflamingo despite the gap between the former being greater than the gap between the latter?

Luffy might have been weakened, but he was NOWHERE as damaged as Doflamingo was. They have never been comparable. There's also the fact that you have no way of determine how much damage was done to Luffy by Bellamy and how much was done by the string clone. For all we know, Bellamy contributed 10% of the damage and Doflamingo's own arsenal did the other 90%.

Also, we don't know how much damage GK did

The fact that Doffy went from swatting Jet Pistols to getting caught off-guard by attacks of the same speed demonstrates how much damage GK did.

Katakuri almost making G4 Luffy's eyes turn white is clearly supposed to show that he isn't that far off from G4 Luffy,

Doflamingo's Awakened threads fending off Luffy for 20 mins does the same thing. Also, as you yourself point out, you can excel in one stat while being garbage in others. So just because Katakuri MIGHT have higher damage output than Doflamingo doesn't mean he wins a fight short of high diff if he even wins at all.

Katakuri casually dodging strong G4 attacks, like Kong Organ

Kinda like Doflamingo blitzing G4 after dodging its move?

and sending G4 Luffy flying is clearly supposed to show that he's stronger than Doffy.

Stronger than a half-dead Doffy? Sure. But the fact remains we have never seen a 100% Doffy go all out.

 

[ToshiZO]

At this rate we'll be debating if Kaido is above an unseen "100%" Doflamingo lmfao.

You people are obsessed with this character, he's strong but it's clear as day Katakuri is stronger, the one thing Doflamingo has an argument above him in is endurance, and Katakuri doesn't even lack in that category as he was still standing after multiple G4 hits consecutively, his attack power makes Doflamingo's look like childs play and worst of all you can't even hit him as he has observation above top tiers even, he only got hit in the first place thanks to being caught eating donuts. So we have Katakuri who can't be touched, and when the stars align and he somehow gets touched through God knows how, he has the necessary endurance to deal with it. Move on, this fight isn't worth debating anymore, dead the topic.

 

[Punk Hazard]

At this rate we'll be debating if Kaido is above an unseen "100%" Doflamingo lmfao.

Not really. Katakuri just hasn't shown anything to suggest he's stomping Doffy like people think they are.

You people are obsessed with this character, he's strong but it's clear as day Katakuri is stronger, the one thing Doflamingo has an argument above him in is endurance

As mentioned before, Katakuri's capacity to damage Luffy in G4 is reasonably attributable to Doflamingo, being that it took Luffy 20 mins to finally get past it.